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question but LEGALLY are the people who look at the child porn doing anything wrong as they're not actually involved with it's production? why do the feds arrest people with that stuff on their PC?
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Are you joking?
How so?

demand and supply, it doesnt work if either one is missing

also did you just defend pedophiles?
I don't support exploitation of children (or anyone for that matter), but pedophiles are still people. Its like how people used to persecute gays. Completely unfair and irrational. Now, if a gay person raped someone who wasn't gay (much like in the way that a pedo takes advantage of a child) and leaves him/her both physically and/or emotionally scarred, that deserves persecution. But if he/she's just living life, being gay, what right does anyone have to restrict that?

You get what I'm saying? As long as the pedophile is fulfilling his/her urges by looking at porn and isn't hurting any children, then there's no reason to get all uppity because the person has an unusual fetish.
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How so?
I don't support exploitation of children (or anyone for that matter), but pedophiles are still people. Its like how people used to persecute gays. Completely unfair and irrational. Now, if a gay person raped someone who wasn't gay (much like in the way that a pedo takes advantage of a child) and leaves him/her both physically and/or emotionally scarred, that deserves persecution. But if he/she's just living life, being gay, what right does anyone have to restrict that?

You get what I'm saying? As long as the pedophile is fulfilling his/her urges by looking at porn and isn't hurting any children, then there's no reason to get all uppity because the person has an unusual fetish.

because he's supporting the people that are hurting the children. and yes, there are laws against having child porn.
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So if you look at the videos of the terrorists decapitating people, are you supporting terrorists?
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So if you look at the videos of the terrorists decapitating people, are you supporting terrorists?
only if you wack off to it.
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So if you look at the videos of the terrorists decapitating people, are you supporting terrorists?

No because by looking at terrorist videos you're not generating the terrorists any money.  If no one in the entire world wanted to smoke cigarettes, bang hookers, and buy video games then there wouldn't be any tobacco companies, prostitutes, or gaming industry.  Take away the DEMAND and there is no SUPPLY.

Holy shit, why are we even bringing this up?  For every person willing to pay top dollar for indonesian child pictures there's going to be some creep who kidnaps little indonesian girls off the streets and whores them on the internet.  Fuck.
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I'm not sure the PA has anything to do with this stuff.
I'm not saying that the Patriot Act relates to this, it's just that this is the sort of tactic that the PA wants to use. 
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How so?
I don't support exploitation of children (or anyone for that matter), but pedophiles are still people. Its like how people used to persecute gays. Completely unfair and irrational. Now, if a gay person raped someone who wasn't gay (much like in the way that a pedo takes advantage of a child) and leaves him/her both physically and/or emotionally scarred, that deserves persecution. But if he/she's just living life, being gay, what right does anyone have to restrict that?

You get what I'm saying? As long as the pedophile is fulfilling his/her urges by looking at porn and isn't hurting any children, then there's no reason to get all uppity because the person has an unusual fetish.
Where the fuck did you pull that comparison from?

A gay person watching gay porn isn't hurting someone (unless of course its an underage child/rape), while a pedophile is watching porn of a CHILD who is more than likely being forced against their will.
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No because by looking at terrorist videos you're not generating the terrorists any money.  If no one in the entire world wanted to smoke cigarettes, bang hookers, and buy video games then there wouldn't be any tobacco companies, prostitutes, or gaming industry.  Take away the DEMAND and there is no SUPPLY.

Holy shit, why are we even bringing this up?  For every person willing to pay top dollar for indonesian child pictures there's going to be some creep who kidnaps little indonesian girls off the streets and whores them on the internet.  Fuck.

Yes but what about downloading it off p2p programs or happyzoo without paying anything, is that supporting the pedophiles?
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Yes but what about downloading it off p2p programs or happyzoo without paying anything, is that supporting the pedophiles?
Jesus dude, it's fucking wrong because they're watching kids GETTING RAPED JESUS.
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how do you guys not get this
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Jesus dude, it's fucking wrong because they're watching kids GETTING RAPED JESUS.

Of course it is but the point is that they're watching for free without paying and therefore not supporting the pedophiles

Anyway if they keep doing things like this The Pedophiles will just find another way to share all their pedophile adventures with each others. This is like trying to stop sociopathy in my opinion, you can't, all you can do is to lock away the ones you find but they will continue appearing
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I find it weird though that underage girls who take pictures of themselves get arrested for the possession of child pornography.
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I don't support exploitation of children (or anyone for that matter), but pedophiles are still people. Its like how people used to persecute gays. Completely unfair and irrational. Now, if a gay person raped someone who wasn't gay (much like in the way that a pedo takes advantage of a child) and leaves him/her both physically and/or emotionally scarred, that deserves persecution. But if he/she's just living life, being gay, what right does anyone have to restrict that?

You get what I'm saying? As long as the pedophile is fulfilling his/her urges by looking at porn and isn't hurting any children, then there's no reason to get all uppity because the person has an unusual fetish.
Pedophilia is still classified as a mental disorder that requires treatment, but homosexuality had that status dismissed years ago. So yes they are human beings, yes they are just trying to live their lives, but the kind of behavior and alternative lifestyle of a pedophile is damaging to the image of the community and society as a greater whole. These people should be seeking professional help, not feeding their obsession.

I agree however that pedophiles aren't criminals by definition, but that can very quickly change if such urges are acted on. That's the issue here and is likely why the U.S. government established this type of program. I don't think it's right nor accurate, but at least at the moment this is being done in the interest of protecting children.
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You cant be like, really saying pedophilia is anything like homosexuality. I mean the only time I heard that before was satirical, like in south park I think? Saying that pedophilia is like homosexuality and will eventually become mainstream is ridiculous. Id even add that it... it sounds like s..something a pedo would say.... :fogetmmh:

I mean sure, like any other "sexual deviance" (I cant think of another term that englobe both pedophilia and homosexuality), its not in any way a pedophiles' fault if he is one. I don't know if its genetic or like, caused by trauma or something, but it sure as hell isn't a conscious choice.
But contrarily to homosexuality and sexual fetishes, pedophilia is inherently wrong, because by its very definition it is to be considered rape: children are not in age to consent to sexual relations, they are naive and manipulable, and worse, they view adults as role models. Any child pornography is wrong, no matter the social context or whatever. Obviously its not the case for homosexuality. The only things I would consider not to be inherently wrong would be like, written, drawn or otherwise false child pornography (adults disguising as children or whatever? Its hard to imagine this to be possible though. Lol midgets). As disgusting as this pornography might be, at least no actual child was harmed. Also pedoes will have something to jerk off to and wont turn into savage rapists.
(actually im not sure here. Maybe having something to jerk off to will make them worse?)

Also I'm curious, do pedophiles actually get cured? Or is the only "cure" castration?
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No Psychoskull a lot of psychologists or psychiatrists have said it's something just like homosexuality and were serious when they said it

And pedophilia isn't the same thing as child sex abuse

Pedophiles get cured as much as people with ADD get cured from ADD (in other words they don't)
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I find it weird though that underage girls who take pictures of themselves get arrested for the possession of child pornography.
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As much as I don't support pedophiles at all, I would have to think it would be pretty awful to be one considering you basically have to keep that shit to yourself forever least you risk having loved ones rank you as worse than like someone who methodically kills people. It must be pretty awful to have that kind of weight on you, to have urges you can't really help but will pretty much ostracize you from everyone in the world except other pedophiles if they are discovered. I mean having feelings and acting on them are clearly two different things, but I don't think most pedophiles would be inclined to get therapy or whatever since our society would rather just burn them at the stake.
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Pedophilia is still classified as a mental disorder that requires treatment, but homosexuality had that status dismissed years ago.
So really, same thing just 20 years behind?

But contrarily to homosexuality and sexual fetishes, pedophilia is inherently wrong, because by its very definition it is to be considered rape:
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So really, same thing just 20 years behind?
complete and utter fucking opinion
Are you for real sticking up for pedophiles? The people who use helpless, unknowing children, to take care of their selfish, disgusting wants? The ones who hurt these children both physically and mentally? And also the people who not only condone it, but watch it and use it to get themselves off?

It's not the same as homosexuality, regardless of whether it's a choice or something people are born with, because homosexuals are CONSENTING ADULTS. They are not VIOLATING each other. If a homosexual is going around RAPING PEOPLE then they deserve to be punished, much like any other sexual offender. But in NO WAY is homosexuality the same as PEDOPHILIA.