With either two or one weeks to go (on BBC 2 or BBC 3 recpectively) I dunno who's been watching Torchwood.
For those who don't know, it's a Doctor Who spinoff said to be like "the x-files but in cardiff". It's not like the x-files (apart from like one episode I will mention), and any claims that it's sexy or adult basically mean it has kissing and SEX GAS.
It's pretty bad (and last years was horrendous, but showed potential towards the end), but the past few episodes have started getting pretty good. Episode 10 would have fitted perfectly as an X-File. It's about night carnival folk. Episode 11 was a pretty calm character episode which was cool and Episode 12 was ok too I guess. But yah this season's been all right, it started very OTT and the second episode ended with one of the most hillarious things ever (a business man alien attacking a military base) but it's definately found it's footing and has been a lot more solid this time, if the writting has at points been a little well... bad. Plus there was no SEX GAS this season, so that was good.

I really like Torchwood. Apparently I'm the only one though. I've liked it from the very start too. It's wonderfully cheesy in my opinion. But I guess I should say that I unfortuantely never have had much chance to watch Dr. Who (because they've never really aired that over here ) So I guess I can blame me liking it on that? Perhaps?

Well Doctor Who does start in about two weeks! so there won't be that long to wait
Nah I think Torchwood's problem is that it doesn't know when to and when not to take itself seriously. The characters are different, interesting and go well (ok the potential Toshiko/Owen relationship seems pretty far fetched). The breif, is good and shows potential. But it comes on with SEX GAS, boring plots or shakey cliche directing, There's not really been feel for a continous threat. Billis Manger from the first season was great, he had the perfect amount of creepy (and that he's appearing in the novels suggests to me he's popular enough to warrent becoming a fairly frequent(once every season or two) badguy).

Dr Who is about to come back? Aw, I was hoping something horrible was going to happen to everyone who wrote any of the episodes of last season and it'd be cancelled.

On that note, I absolutely hated the first series of Torchwood, and saw no reason to give it a second chance this season. Wasn't the first episode of the first series the alien who absorbed men as they climaxed? Come on.

On that note, I absolutely hated the first series of Torchwood, and saw no reason to give it a second chance this season. Wasn't the first episode of the first series the alien who absorbed men as they climaxed? Come on.

That's the SEX GAS Kaworu keeps mentioning. I didn't even dislike that episode. I like the wacky concepts they put forth and I like it even more when every single one gets resolved every episode. None of that arc-spanning serialized continuos shit.

I like how they introduce concepts I haven't seen too often in TV-SF before. (Though again I haven't seen Doctor Who so I don't know if it's something that is usual within that. Because as far as TV-SF goes Torchwood is pretty top-notch so if the only real fault with it is that it isn't as awesome as Who I don't really know what to say.)

Of course the writing and execution isn't always win. But in SF it has always been the concepts that are important anyway.

Dr Who is about to come back? Aw, I was hoping something horrible was going to happen to everyone who wrote any of the episodes of last season and it'd be cancelled.

On that note, I absolutely hated the first series of Torchwood, and saw no reason to give it a second chance this season. Wasn't the first episode of the first series the alien who absorbed men as they climaxed? Come on.

Yeah I am totally disappointed with what I've read about this years Doctor Who (I mean the main bad guy will be Davros I mean fucking COME ON! he was overused enough in the 80's) but there are three stories which do seem epic (Planet of the ood (I like ood),The Sontaran one... because Sontarans are one of the coolest aliens ever. Seriously. And the second two parter about a SPACE LIBRARY because it seems so very late Tom Baker). but other than those I really am not looking forward to this
(Some of the writers are really good (some of them learned their trade writing audioplays or making Doctor Who spinoffs for BBV) but Russel T Davies has... horrible vision and it's a problem with torchwood as well I think, his control. Like he ejaculates ideas onto a piece of paper, but doesn't put any thought into "does this work?" or "is this good enough?" But I ain't poducer of two of the few watchable TV shows around so I can't comment)

I must say I am annoyed that people do compare torchwood to Doctor Who because it's a totally different type of program, and Torchwood can be fully enjoyed without knowledge of Doctor Who even when most of it's key points are related to that series (Captain jack's immortality, the Rift, torchwood itself and more). But I think that's one of it's strengths that it does seem to exist happily on it's own, with minimal reference.

Anyways I'll likely start a Doctor Who topic in a few weeks anyways, so let's not talk about that here :p

Ugh... don't get me started on Torchwood. I sunk in my chair in shame as I was watching it. I acknowledge the fact that I indulge in cheap media more often than I should... but Torchwood was too much for me. I didn't have any hopes for any more Doctor Who after watching it...

Of course the writing and execution isn't always win. But in SF it has always been the concepts that are important anyway.

this is a pretty lame sentence really. i always thought in tv as a whole writing is quite important. i dont really finish watching a show and go THAT WAS A GOOD CONCEPT i am usually more THAT WAS A FUN TV SHOW TO WATCH

hahah that is really exactly how i feel but worded better about robin hood, too.

this is a pretty lame sentence really. i always thought in tv as a whole writing is quite important. i dont really finish watching a show and go THAT WAS A GOOD CONCEPT i am usually more THAT WAS A FUN TV SHOW TO WATCH

I'm just an SF guy. And as an SF guy I can get through short-stories with only concept. And I'd say that writing possibly is even more important in short stories?

it's been getting okay, better than it was but still not entirely watchable.

there have been some interesting concepts, but they haven't been executed properly i think.

Some of the writers are really good (some of them learned their trade writing audioplays or making Doctor Who spinoffs for BBV)

True! Stephen Moffat's episodes (The Girl in the Fireplace from 2006 and Blink from 2007) I enjoyed, and it's Moffat, not Davies, who won awards for his Doctor Who writing. Luckily, he's writing a two-parter for the latest series, so if I can stand watching Catherine Tate for any amount of time, I may well enjoy it!

Yeah his two parter is one of the few I'm really looking forward to!

Also last Torchwood on BBC3 tonight peeps.
tbh a problem with Torchwood is it's influences, it's prettymuch taking stuff (sylistically and plot-wise) from crap like Angel and Buffy. Which are terrible shows anyways. And yet it's advertising itself as sexy-x-files. It needs some more mature storylines and some real mysteries, that get us as an audience guessing (because they for some reason SHOW US WHAT IS GOING ON AS IF WE CAN'T COMPREHEND HINTS AND CLUES). for what it is, it does need to follow closer to X files or Quatermass, because atm it doesn't know whether it's a family, teen or adult show.

Moffat should be in control of doctor who not that asshole davies I swear

I remember catching five minutes of this on TV once. Thought it was the saddest thing I had ever seen. Doctor Who gets away with being shit 'cause it's aimed at 7 year olds, Torchwood is the exact same show but they say naughty words and talk about sex.