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I think Paul McCartney's Chaos and Creation at the Backyard is very well produced. it is produced by the radiohead producer
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Probably Marvin Gaye "What's Going On." I remember hearing the song for the first time in a music museum in Nashville. It sounded so soulful and atmospheric. It was amazing because the museum taught you how they recorded the album. For 1970 and 10 days (I think) it sounds so clear.

Then again I'm agreeing a bit with Omega. I don't really get production as far as live musicians go. As long as they don't cheat and change the volume or normalize anything I'm fine.
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Air - Talkie Walkie
It's not my favourite album in the world, in fact I do not like it very much at all but I have to give it to these guys that they are pretty genius with sound. Take Alpha Beta Gaga for instance which is one of their most famous tunes as it is has been played on EVERY ADVERT EVERYWHERE, you can really hear the acoustic guitar creeping through the primary whistling sections although it doesn't feel like a very acoustic song and the way this perfectly levelled orchestra and acoustic sound is trying to break out center and right, this synth swell comes up left panned and you don't even realize that you are listening to classical orchestral/acoustic music and synth-pop at the same time. The whole album doesn't drop a beat all the way through, I think it is one of the best productions on an album that I own.

Amon Tobin - Foley Room
One of the main things you will notice about any amon tobin track is that it doesn't sound like HEY I AM A WELL PRODUCED album because he really plugs for all these vintage sounds that make his songs feel like something out of a 50's movie soundtrack and the fact that he succeeds in doing this is amazing. This guy manages to do things with sounds that I can't even comprehend. I'd really like to say BLOODSTONE BLOODSTONE BLOODSTONE for the way he blended this creepy orchestral theme and modern day electro music by using a printing press for a percussion instrument. The amazing thing about it is the fact that he just takes SOUNDS and turns SOUNDS into songs instead of instruments. Like on the track Esthers where he takes a motorbike engine, morphs it with a tigers roar and turns it into a lead instrument for an entire song. I don't know anybody else that does that and it sounds fucking ace.

Rob Dougan - Furious Angels
WELL HERE YOU GO JOKE ENTRY RIGHT!? Yeah sorry, I have a Rob Dougan album, it's not great but now that's out the way this dude is a production demon. I mean I have huge respect for ONE MAN BANDS that can WRITE music and then actually produce the sounds together that will make it listenable. Severing all matrix connections I think it really stands out on three of the tracks, the title "Furious Angels," "Clubbed to Death" and "I'm not Driving Anymore." Ragnar if you have not heard this I recommend you listen to this: THIS I think with PRODUCTION the main importance is to really be able to fill all aspects of the sound and I do not know the technical term for this I'm afraid but when listening to music their area areas that when left absent will make a song sound flat and that's a big production let down. Amon Tobin, Air and Rob Dougan are the people who have so far managed to fill these voids outstandingly with these albums. I mention these albums because these are the ones that keep up production quality ALL THE WAY THROUGH despite the fact that Air's Talkie Walkie album is debatably NOT GREAT, Amon Tobin's Foley Room is NO WAY NEAR the best Amon Tobin album and Rob Dougan is notious for having JUST ONE SONG PLAYED EVER as part of the matrix soundtrack.

So, I hope I'm not accused of just listing shit that I think sounds good because these are not exactly the highlights of my musical collection, just the outstanding production quality pieces.

a couple of albums that I felt like mentioning but didn't are "Dial "M" for Monkey" by Bonobo, "Exit Planet Dust" by the chem bros and "Man with a Movie Camera" by the Cinematic Orchestra.
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I haven't listened to Foley Room yet :(

And I actually own Furious Angels, I thought it was kind of a "thin" mix myself but I'll listen again

http://www.myspace.com/hybridsoundsystem these guys are kind of cool, they combine breakbeat with ORCHESTRA which I hear is an incredible mixing feat, although they seem to work with people like TONY SCOTT so I respect them less for that - listen to Just for Today, it's incredible

Also I hate The Crystal Method but I have to admit Legion of Boom has some ridiculous bass - plus that WEAPONS OF MASS DISTORTION track is in every movie trailer ever made - either that or Absurd by Fluke

I seriously think Crystal Method intentionally makes songs that'll be good for movie trailers and don't make music for the sake of it anymore

Also I like LFO (not Lyte Funky Ones), they do ridiculous things with sub-bass and their songs feel like they're going off into a well or something if you have headphones on. I generally like what they do with spatial stuff. They've only done a few albums but they've worked on a few Bjork albums (Homogenic and the newest one, and possibly others.) There's only one member in the group now so it might be credited as Mark Bell since that's the guy who's left
http://www.myspace.com/lowfrequencyoscillator

Also if you like INCREDIBLY CREEPY STUFF there's a guy called Lustmord who Pulits told me about, of all people. He uses INFRASOUND and stuff and if you want to make generally scary music for a horror project I'd listen to him. But his stuff sounds like downright EVIL and not just scary so it's kind of unsettling
http://www.myspace.com/lustmord

Come to think of it his stuff is kind of reminiscent of Resident Evil 4 - I could imagine wandering around the castle level to this
Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 03:36:12 am by Ragnar
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Probably Marvin Gaye "What's Going On." I remember hearing the song for the first time in a music museum in Nashville. It sounded so soulful and atmospheric. It was amazing because the museum taught you how they recorded the album. For 1970 and 10 days (I think) it sounds so clear.

great album, it was on my list for ALBUMS GW DONT RECOGNIZE but who knows now.
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Did you really think none of us had heard or liked marvin gaye?
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no, but I mean the album. since it's regarded as probably the best concept album outside of prog, it's surprising no one talks about it!
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what's going on is an amazing album. i really had no idea people on gw listened to stuff like that!
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great album, it was on my list for ALBUMS GW DONT RECOGNIZE but who knows now.

I'd probably read this. Got a link?
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I'd probably read this. Got a link?

its on the mainsite brah, the recent one ended up disintegrating in discussion but I plan on putting up another one today.

http://www.gamingw.net/tags/top%2520albums
Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 11:54:25 pm by Omega the Unknown
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this topic is kind of bad man. everyone is just saying shit they like that also sounds decent.

I mean if it was rap production at least the limitation would make it interesting but in ALL OF MUSIC WHO HAS WELL PRODUCED ALBUMS is like asking WHO HAS A GOOD VOICE.
it would be a pretty good topic if anyone here knew what they were talking about, perhaps
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oh yeah brian eno was ridiculously ahead of his time too

Also holy shit I'm listening to Bjork again now that I've got my speakers fixed and the bass in Hunter is hardcore

Edit: 5 Years is pretty great too
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Brian Eno is probably one of the best producers ever. I am also partial to Jon Brion.
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I would have to say out of all the bands that I listen to August Burns Red's album "Messengers" is the best produced album.

The instruments mesh so well together, and they are all insanely talented. I also like that the drums aren't louder than the guitars, or the singer (unlike in Protest the Hero's album "Kezia," the drums are WAY too loud)

Also, don't give me any shit because it is metalcore etc.
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My Bloody Valentine's Loveless for me. Shouldn't expect any less of it considering the amount of time and money that seems to have been put into it. Kevin Shields' genius really shone through on this last record and I can't wait to see the new MBV record he says is in progress though I'm pretty sure anything following Loveless can only be disappointing!

I've enjoyed a fair amount of Steve Albini's diverse production work too. He's excellent at what he does, just take a look at his work with Slint, GY!BE, Neurosis, and of course his own projects.
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Once again I didn't make this topic to ask which albums have good instrument playing/singers and stuff. I'm asking about everything you can do after and during recording and stuff - I know this should've been in the music creation forum :(

I dunno I like the artists I like but I do abstract it compared to suckier but better-sounding albums from a technical point of view. It especially helps to know with electronic stuff because you kind of can't not try to make stuff sound better with that because you're basically working directly with sound, in fact I think ELECTRONICA people should worry about this the most because if they're not playing an instrument, post-production stuff has to be their way of adding "character" to the sound

Also the thing I work with is just like GENERATE SINE WAVE so it's pretty abstracted from Fruityloops because it blurs the line between what is mixing and what is TIMBRE because if you don't do anything with the waveforms it's going to be the most boring shit ever but most of the stuff you change the sound with is what would be considered mixing techniques in other music. Like there's a type of synthesis called subtractive synthesis, which is where you start out with basically GENERIC sound and you make it resemble some kind of real sound with filters

Omg the wikipedia article is awesome


Edit: Man I already try to use an LFO like it says in the article (It's a low frequency wave that changes the filter over time to make it feel more natural) but maybe I should randomize the LFO itself so it doesn't follow a set pattern or anything
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In reason or Logic (and probably other DAWs) they have multiple wave types on the LFOs and also the option to have two LFO's simultaneously. Logic probably has the best synth plugin. It's called Sculpture. You can control so much shit in it to the extreme of what it would sound like on a planet with a different gravity.

there's so much shit you can do with a single sine wave tone. It just depends what you want to do with it.
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In reason or Logic (and probably other DAWs) they have multiple wave types on the LFOs and also the option to have two LFO's simultaneously. Logic probably has the best synth plugin. It's called Sculpture. You can control so much shit in it to the extreme of what it would sound like on a planet with a different gravity.

there's so much shit you can do with a single sine wave tone. It just depends what you want to do with it.

Well if you saw the screen I posted my thing can basically chain as many effects as you want one after the other, so you can change the order they take effect too. And you can set an LFO to affect any parameter, so probably another LFO too but I'm not entirely sure. You can also use noise as an LFO which I guess could be used with a filter to make things sound 'grainy' or something
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well in your screenshot you posted, it's basically a badly organised bus system. A much cleaner and simpler route to take would be to load modules onto a bus and from there you can monitor the send amount to the track.

This is sculpture. Notice how you can graphically map a route where you want your LFO to take you. I think you can get it as a VST plugin, so you don't neccersarily have to use Logic, which is good if you don't have a mac

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Doesn't look hands-on enough for me :(

Edit: Also there are some spatial modules and stuff like that, I should really look to see if there's one that gives you an envelope interface so you can 'sculpt' the way you want the filters to change and stuff, to make it natural that way

Also don't diss modular man :(

http://leafo.net/hosted/ragnar/Fenix%20Funk%205.mp3

Is it just me or is that harpsichord sounding thing at the end ridiculously beautiful for a synth made in 1970-something
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