Topic: Well-produced Albums (Read 2492 times)

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I'm just wondering, going through your whole collection of music, what would you say is the best produced/mixed/mastered album you have? I know it's kind of a hard answer to give because there's "good" music from the perspective of being well-written and good in a technical sense (sounding nice), but I listen to so much stuff sometimes I do get a little pissed, like this album could've sounded so much better if that one part stood out more/etc.

Ironically I think some of the best-sounding albums on my hard drive are some of the most awful stuff I have. Like I think Hail to the Thief by Radiohead sounded fantastic but in every other respect it's a hard listen. I also think Venetian Snares does an amazing production job with his albums and if he was just throwing noises without being concerned about how it sounded it would be pretty intolerable.

But yeah I ask this because I'm actually trying to get really serious about mixing now and I want to get an idea of what's possible on a sonic level, at CD quality. I'm also interested in how aware/unaware you have to feel that the sounds are coming out of a speaker with regard to headphones, and how distant/wide (off to the left or right) a mix can sound, and how dense/open things can be
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I guess it depends on what the style of music and what your personal preferences are.   In my personal opinion, Porcupine Tree's In Absentia and Deadwing are really well produced (the latter even more so), but I have heard some people say that they don't like the tone of the guitar so much.  Personally, I think that both of them sound excellent though.  I guess I'm more drawn to mixes that have the guitar in the forefront of the mix, and give the drums a good amount of tone as well. 

Another album that comes to mind is System of a Down's Toxicity.  I'm not going to go out and say that it is an excellently produced album, but I just love the way that the album sounds.   An album doesn't have to be necessarily well produced technically to have a good sound.  It's more of a matter of being appropriate to the musical style of the artist.
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I think that 'Back In Black' is a very well produced album. When you think that it was recorded back in 1980 and it sounds good even today. Especially considering how dated Fly on the Wall, Razor's Edge and Blow up your video sound which came after.
I don'r really know anything about the technical side of things but it sounds good for a rock album even on vinyl.
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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Fugazi - Red Medicine
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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Fugazi - Red Medicine

yeah man. i LOVE BSSM's production. it's part of the reason it's my favorite album. it's so dry and simple it's amazing. one of the reasons why i don't like SA that much is it's so overproduced, same with by the way to an extent.
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I love how by the way was produced, but agree that SA was overdone (with a few too many songs as well). I really like how a ton of albums sound productionwise and I dont want to list em all
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yeah man. i LOVE BSSM's production. it's part of the reason it's my favorite album. it's so dry and simple it's amazing. one of the reasons why i don't like SA that much is it's so overproduced, same with by the way to an extent.

Californication and By The Way (I'm not sure about SA but I'm sure to some extent) were really overproduced, esepcially to the point of some tracks clipping.  It doesn't sound bad imo, but its not so good looking from a technical standpoint
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Queen's A Night at the Opera. The timbre of the instruments is, of course, excellent, and there's some fantastic panning work (especially vocals)
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I'm not gonna be a dick but since I'm doing stuff all on the PC I'd be looking for stuff more like... Boards of Canada or something. Even if I was in a band or something all recording stuff comes into play so that doesn't really help me

Hell even if you recommend some well-done pop albums I'll listen to what they did with it :blech:

But yeah I'm more on the ambient side of electronic music, which is like you MAKE timbre so I'm more concerned with those sort of things. Or you can mention like more industrial/psychedelic stuff because it's as much a studio thing as singers and instruments and stuff - so I dunno even mention stuff like SHPONGLE if you want
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I'm not gonna be a dick but since I'm doing stuff all on the PC I'd be looking for stuff more like... Boards of Canada or something. Even if I was in a band or something all recording stuff comes into play so that doesn't really help me

Hell even if you recommend some well-done pop albums I'll listen to what they did with it :blech:

But yeah I'm more on the ambient side of electronic music, which is like you MAKE timbre so I'm more concerned with those sort of things. Or you can mention like more industrial/psychedelic stuff because it's as much a studio thing as singers and instruments and stuff - so I dunno even mention stuff like SHPONGLE if you want

Well, I don't know much about production, but one album you might want to check out for the sound is "An Electric Storm" by White Noise, who were a kind of psychedelic electronica band from England in the late sixties/seventies. It's worth hearing because, as well as being a great record, it's entirely a studio production: they made it in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, and they used film samples, sound effects, speed altering, and orgasm noises to give it a unique kind of sound. It's kinda hard to describe, but it fits under ambient-ish electronic music and you could probably make something like it on a computer.
Handily enough, it's also available to download free on a music blog. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link here, but PM me if you're interested and I'll give you the link.
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oh fuck An Electric Storm is SO GOOD.

esepecailly because it has FUCKING ALL OVER IT.
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I really liked that Iron & Wine + Calexico EP's production

and also Lift Your Skinny Fists by GY!BE always struck me as an album that was incredibly well mixed and produced overall. So many different things going on there and the audio is crystal clear.
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Well, I don't know much about production, but one album you might want to check out for the sound is "An Electric Storm" by White Noise, who were a kind of psychedelic electronica band from England in the late sixties/seventies. It's worth hearing because, as well as being a great record, it's entirely a studio production: they made it in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, and they used film samples, sound effects, speed altering, and orgasm noises to give it a unique kind of sound. It's kinda hard to describe, but it fits under ambient-ish electronic music and you could probably make something like it on a computer.
Handily enough, it's also available to download free on a music blog. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link here, but PM me if you're interested and I'll give you the link.

Yeah I'll definitely check this out, in fact it sounds like the exact kind of stuff I'd be interested in.

So I thought maybe a visual aid would help:



This is the most recent song I did - the whole program is like a modular synthesizer all laid out on the screen (as opposed to back in the 70's/80's when they looked like this) So each box acts like an effects unit, unless it's at the end of a chain, then it's a sound generator. There's some more hardkor programs out there where a generator is literally like... the "Generate Tone" function in Audacity so all you have is the type of wave and a frequency "knob". Buzz is a little easier to handle, usually a generator is like a synthesizer, it already has a filter and stuff built in and there's a tracker view so you can put down notes. Also most of the synths seem to have at least 2 oscillators, so you can combine a sine and a saw wave or some stuff like that. The "Infector" box is really cool because it lets you set a wave type for the sub oscillator too, which can really drastically change how it sounds. But "effects" in Buzz can be anything from a delay to an equalizer/mixer/sound meters (HVision is a spectrum analyzer, I think) so it's cool how you can just add whatever sort of unit you need. For the most part they look pretty plain like a Windows pop-up but I dunno I think it's easier to look at that way

But anyway one cool part about getting to work with filters/effects directly is that once in a while I'll come across a sound that sounds just like a certain song. The Chemical Brothers use a lot of modular stuff so I end up making a few familiar sounds from their albums, like at one point I was using a flanger or something and I made almost the same sound at the beginning of their album "Surrender". A lot of sounds can be made multiple ways but there's always the chance that you might be doing the exact same thing they did to make that sound (aside from drugs lol), so it's always an exciting experience. One day I annoyed the hell out of my brother because he had some trance music playing and I'd identify when they did a filter slide or laid down a whole bunch of snares to do that sort of "buildup" sound ;)

Edit: Sorry if this is kind of blurring the line between Music and Music Creation :/
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Imogen Heap - Speak for yourself

It has an incredible clean sound to it. There's like 50 layers of vocals and shit.

Also, check out Timberland and stuff by Justin Timberlake.
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Say what you will, Nevermind by Nirvana sounded fantastic.
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For The Love of Art and the Making by Beyond Twilight definitely deserves a mention. Whenever I'm testing high-end audio equipment, it's the album I'll run.
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this topic is kind of bad man. everyone is just saying shit they like that also sounds decent.

I mean if it was rap production at least the limitation would make it interesting but in ALL OF MUSIC WHO HAS WELL PRODUCED ALBUMS is like asking WHO HAS A GOOD VOICE.
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this topic is kind of bad man. everyone is just saying shit they like that also sounds decent.

I mean if it was rap production at least the limitation would make it interesting but in ALL OF MUSIC WHO HAS WELL PRODUCED ALBUMS is like asking WHO HAS A GOOD VOICE.

Oh man thank you

That's why I said that Radiohead album because it's like such a depressing album and I don't think I'd be able to sit through it if it wasn't produced so well and made to be so ENGAGING

But yeah I'm actually interested in stuff like BRITNEY SPEARS and crap because obviously it's not the singer having a good voice or the melody being innovative or anything - for all that kind of stuff I imagine if a decent band on my playlist had someone like that to make an already good thing sound ridiculously good

another example is BT - that My Binary Universe album or whatever sounded great, and he obviously knows a shitload of stuff about making music with computer (he's even made his own music program or something) but he's just so... ok the guy did the soundtrack for TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 2005 I don't think he's really that sophisticated when it comes down to things - but at the same time this guy can do tracks that blow me away and lower my faith in humanity at the same time

cmon these are lyrics to one of his songs

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Somebody rockin' this mic, got you droppin' it right
{A little session for the soldier who be rockin' it tight}
Ah, don't be scared just let yourself go
I make this shit boom on the microphone, come on

Mad skillz, what's the deal?
Bring it to the party- give ya something to feel
Mad skillz, what's the deal?
Bring it to the party- give ya something to feel (come on)

but the song sounds ridiculous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzYaQ4OYxWU&feature=related

I'm still depressed that I haven't heard This Binary Universe in surround yet though ;_;

Edit: http://profile.imeem.com/ZyrH4Yf/music/EM5aqCBu/bt_nick_phoenix_iron_fisted_mutha/ the guy did a whole CD of MUSIC CUES - like this song might go on the next big FOX show that lasts 3 episodes before it's cancelled
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