What the F**K Squenix?[Crystal Chronicles for the Wii]

What the F**K Squenix?[Crystal Chronicles for the Wii] (Read 1993 times)

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Warlin

#1 March 25, 2008, 08:36:56 pm

I did ok on this one but his feet are kinda wierd!
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http://www.destructoid.com/my-life-as-a-king-where-i-pay-for-microtransactions-what--77614.phtml

I was talking to my friends when this little link came up. I wondered what it was for. My friend just happens to be a Squenix whore and buys whatever they sell regardless of how good or bad it may be. Well I think they might have finally pushed him a bit too far. The new crystal chronicles forces you to spend wiipoints(which is money transformed into wiistuff) to buy the other three races among other things. They put it out there quite blatantly too. Apparently, the game has some annoying content that you either have to purchase or deal without having and not getting the full experience. Not that other games don't have add-ons, it's just that apparently, this game fucking flaunts the add-ons in your face.

I know game add-ons are the norm now days, but most of the time they're just ADD-ONS not something thats thrown in your face. This is, however, just news that I've heard.
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Liman

#2 March 25, 2008, 08:50:04 pm

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That's pretty dull. I've heard about this game for a while and it looked kinda cool so far. This move surprises me though. There's one thing to have DLC that gives you more stuff over what the previous game had to offer, but to add this straight away and take away 3/4th of the content is pretty awful and a terrible idea.

Square isn't the only ones to be blamed though. I suspect that Nintendo has worked out some sort of deal with them, much like Microsoft do with their MSP.

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UPRC

#3 March 25, 2008, 09:29:22 pm

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Haha, wow. That's a pretty low move I think. Square-Enix is making crappier decisions as each month passes by, I think.

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jamie

#4 March 25, 2008, 09:39:20 pm

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uhhh i dunno guys i think this is a pretty cool idea. look at it this way: you're getting the full game experience - right? and then there is THREE TIMES more content than the full game you have already played through! that is pretty cool in itself, but you aren't gonna have to *sigh* grind to get the extra content or anything laaaame like that - you can buy it! easy peasy.

honestly i think it'll be like buying a brand new crystal chronicles classic 4 times over. i'd feel pretty lucky to have that much excitement in my future.

oh and heh, don't buy'em all in one day!

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Ghost_Aspergers

#5 March 25, 2008, 09:55:06 pm

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I can understand free MMOG's doing this as their source of income... but what the fuck is this? They're not even trying to hide the fact that they are milking their series any more.

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theHunter

#6 March 25, 2008, 10:02:44 pm

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In Battlefield Bad Company your going to have to pay for more guns! Seriously this micro transaction thing is getting ridiculous.

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Grogrog

#7 March 26, 2008, 02:45:54 am

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This sort of thing is acceptable under reasonable circumstances. Make a full game first. That's one requirement for micro content. Release the full game. Have people buy the game, and enjoy it. Then as time goes on, feel free to add more content, that you don't have to buy.

But this? Fuckin' ridiculous. You basically are buying a demo, "here, try this race, and if you like it, you can buy the FULL game and have all the races!"

Man, I will not be buying this.

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Mama Luigi

#8 March 26, 2008, 03:29:39 am

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Quote from: TehBoognish

Does it suck? yes. So guess what, DON"T BUY IT!
Only way you will be heard. Just don't buy it.
Why do you think microtransactions are all the rage? Because you idiots keep buying them.
Gonna go get my FREE maps for halo now.

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Marcus

#9 March 26, 2008, 03:34:27 am

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Quote from: Liman on March 25, 2008, 08:50:04 pm

That's pretty dull. I've heard about this game for a while and it looked kinda cool so far. This move surprises me though. There's one thing to have DLC that gives you more stuff over what the previous game had to offer, but to add this straight away and take away 3/4th of the content is pretty awful and a terrible idea.

Square isn't the only ones to be blamed though. I suspect that Nintendo has worked out some sort of deal with them, much like Microsoft do with their MSP.

Nintendo actually announced last month that they were extending some special contract to participating companies that allowed the spending of wii points for online features.

I guess this is the first game to use it. Sadly enough, I guarantee hundreds of thousands of players will eat this shit up.

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dragonx

#10 March 26, 2008, 03:37:06 am

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who was going to buy another crystal chronicles anyway

come on did anyone play the one for gc????

edit:
actually I am going to buy it because I liked the gc one

but fuck the extra content I will just be the one they give me

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Ragnar

#11 March 26, 2008, 03:58:46 am

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I remember back in my day when you'd only be able to play the first level but that's because the game was hard as fuck and not because they forced you to pay for more levels

like battletoads

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JohnnyCasil

#12 March 26, 2008, 11:33:06 am

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I really don't see why everyone is getting all bent out of shape over this. The game itself is a WiiWare title that only costs 1500 points (~$15). The DLC only costs 100~300 points ($1~$3). Using some quick math, buying all three races will only cost you (assuming max costs) 2400 points (~$24). So essentially you are getting a Wii game at half the price of normal Wii games, yet somehow this is some sort of outrage because you don't pay for the whole thing up front?

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SpiralViper

#13 March 26, 2008, 11:36:27 am

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Quote from: Ragnar on March 26, 2008, 03:58:46 am

I remember back in my day when you'd only be able to play the first level but that's because the game was hard as fuck and not because they forced you to pay for more levels

like battletoads

cmon battletoads wasn't THAT hard

it was the bike and snake pit levels that were really difficult, not the first level

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EvilDemonCreature

#14 March 26, 2008, 02:48:33 pm

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Quote from: JohnnyCasil on March 26, 2008, 11:33:06 am

I really don't see why everyone is getting all bent out of shape over this. The game itself is a WiiWare title that only costs 1500 points (~$15). The DLC only costs 100~300 points ($1~$3). Using some quick math, buying all three races will only cost you (assuming max costs) 2400 points (~$24). So essentially you are getting a Wii game at half the price of normal Wii games, yet somehow this is some sort of outrage because you don't pay for the whole thing up front?

Heh, that's why it's such a bad decision. If they just sold the whole thing for 2400 points, then they'd make even more money (assuming less than 100% of the people will unlock everything in any other instance) and people wouldn't be getting bent out of shape about it! It's about business and consumer psychology, and it looks like Squeenix is in the dark when it comes to deciding what constitutes as "suitable selling behavior" in the public's eye.

Even if it does result in a concept that "technically" should make the game more sellable than before.

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maladroithim

#15 March 26, 2008, 02:56:48 pm

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I am not profoundly offended by this news like some of you guys seem to be but I do think that it is a pretty retarded pricing scheme. It's probably a reasonable price overall and everything but it does seem pretty weird to take a complete game and divide it into a series of microtransactions rather than offer a complete game for a full price up front.

Although it does seem a little bit like a pay-to-play demo.

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JohnnyCasil

#16 March 26, 2008, 03:23:26 pm

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Quote from: EvilDemonCreature on March 26, 2008, 02:48:33 pm

Heh, that's why it's such a bad decision. If they just sold the whole thing for 2400 points, then they'd make even more money (assuming less than 100% of the people will unlock everything in any other instance) and people wouldn't be getting bent out of shape about it! It's about business and consumer psychology, and it looks like Squeenix is in the dark when it comes to deciding what constitutes as "suitable selling behavior" in the public's eye.

I'm pretty sure Square-Enix has more business experience than anyone on these boards.

Secondly, everyone here is assuming that everyone that wants to play this game cares about the downloadable content. I want to give the game a shot, but I don't care about the downloadable content, and I would rather save $9. In fact, if the game were priced at $24, I probably wouldn't buy it, because at that point I might as well buy a DS game, or just get a real Wii game. WiiWare titles are meant to be short arcade like games, not full blown retail affairs.

Thirdly, everyone here is assuming that they some how divided the full game into multiple parts that you have to purchase. This isn't the case. The downloadable content is merely extra dungeons, races and buildings. There is NO NEW GAMEPLAY that this content adds. I didn't see people get bent out of shape paying $30 for game expansion packs, but for some reason charging $3 for a new race that some people may not care about is some how out of line. I really don't understand how people think that it is fine for RockBand to charge you for extra songs (Should have been in the original game!) but it is evil for Square to charge you for extra quests (Despite the fact Oblivion did the same thing with Knights of the Nine and no one cared).

I will concede though, the fact that they are considering charging for extra costumes is pretty absurd though. But I thought that was absurd when Oblivion charged money just to give your horse armor.

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DarkFlameWolf

#17 March 26, 2008, 05:56:34 pm

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Quote from: JohnnyCasil on March 26, 2008, 03:23:26 pm

I really don't understand how people think that it is fine for RockBand to charge you for extra songs (Should have been in the original game!) but it is evil for Square to charge you for extra quests (Despite the fact Oblivion did the same thing with Knights of the Nine and no one cared).

my thoughts exactly.

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The Dude

#18 March 26, 2008, 06:16:03 pm

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One word: "GAY".

(so I don't get warned, let me explain; I think having to waste Wiipoints on that is utter gay. Like FF8's damned pocketstation-only GF's. Total BS man. Totally gay.)

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Cardinal Ximenez

#19 March 27, 2008, 05:09:47 am

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The problem with micropayments is that content restriction tends to follow. Support the development of F/OSS and you will be rewarded with a better, freer product.

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#20 March 27, 2008, 08:47:50 am

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Quote from: theHunter on March 25, 2008, 10:02:44 pm

In Battlefield Bad Company your going to have to pay for more guns! Seriously this micro transaction thing is getting ridiculous.

That's crazy.

In Australia we're already paying up to 120 AUD (110 US) for PS3/360 games and 100 AUD (92 or so US) for Wii games, and this on top of it (as well as forcing players to have online) is just ridiculous.

Not happy!

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