think about this for a second, guy.

really, i don't really think these games are really that great, but idk, i guess i feel i have to defend them because i enjoy making towers of people and messing with geo-panels in these game even those things have nothing to do with the character and stories that even i know are pretty bad.

so yeah i should probably just stop, even if people are saying shit(that isn't true) about games they probably never spent more then 1 hour on.

And also that whoever said Super Robot Wars games were great was right.

chef did, but we obviously don't always see eye to eye on vidcons

i've never seen anyone try to reach so hard to rationalize something that's clearly true.  you can just spend a brief time playing the game, look at how it's marketed, look at the character art and the way it's drawn, and it's PRETTY EASY to discern what they were going for.  i guess because flonne is an angel not only does it explain why she's ridiculously subservient in the same way all those terrible anime women are (you're right this couldn't possibly be for reasons going beyond NECESSARY FOR PLOTLINE), but also why she's drawn as a sultry 10 year old girl with no pants on.  i mean, that's how a ten year old angel should be portrayed, right?  either you are blind or in denial here, man.

oh man, i never said she wasn't sexualized, i only said Marona wasn't. if nothing else i should probably stop posting because apparently you guys aren't even reading them.

Okay Flonne is pretty subservient, but she's to be an angel, so... duh? I wasn't aware what she wears under her clothes(never came up in the game from what i remember), but i never said she wasn't sexualized.

Enta was in love with Laharl's dad,  but it doesn't come up much and she spends most of her time planning to defeat Laharl in both Disgaea games, so i'm gonna say bullshit on her being subservient.

Marona is subservient to the max, but that picture came up no where in the game(in fact that shirt looks a bit different from the one i see in the instuction booklet) and while i admit Papa Cauldron was creepy, he never really did anything more then try to be her dad.  creepy? yes. pedo? maybe in his own mind. does that make Marona sexualized? i don't think so.

Hanako, yeah i mentioned her like 2 times already.

i can't say i know anything about the other ones(are the first two from LP Tactics?) except i think the last one is from Disgaea 3 which i have yet to play.

this isn't about the intricacies of each character's contrived backstory, it's about why the people who make this game would choose to have sexy, willless little girls as it's main characters. defending the portrayl of these characters by citing the fact that it's necessary for the plotline is so ridiculous because the plotline only exists to provide an excuse to give the people who play these games a hard on.

really, i don't really think these games are really that great, but idk, i guess i feel i have to defend them because i enjoy making towers of people and messing with geo-panels in these game even those things have nothing to do with the character and stories that even i know are pretty bad.

so yeah i should probably just stop, even if people are saying shit(that isn't true) about games they probably never spent more then 1 hour on.

how is what has been said untrue in any way? this game appeals to men who want to see little slave girls in almost no clothes - you can't really deny this without sounding like an extreme apologist or extremely naive, and you aren't naive after this topic.

people are reading your posts and responding to them accordingly, because your points have zero merit. and you're defending this thing cos you like it's battle system?

hot hot hot somebody buy me nextgens i need this game

this isn't about the intricacies of each character's contrived backstory, it's about why the people who make this game would choose to have sexy, willless little girls as it's main characters. defending the portrayl of these characters by citing the fact that it's necessary for the plotline is so ridiculous because the plotline only exists to provide an excuse to give the people who play these games a hard on.

are you talking about their portrayl as sexualized little girls? in that case then, then i've said like a billion times that yes they are(with one exception). if your talking about the whole submissive thing(the one thing i really disagree on), then thats just bullshit that people are trying to say about the game because they don't like it or something.

only exists to provide an excuse to give the people who play these games a hard on.

i can't say anything for japan, but i doubt there are nearly as many people playing these games for a hard on as you seem to think(there are a lot of people who actually like these games for the story, humor and gameplay who don't beat off to Etna).

how is what has been said untrue in any way? this game appeals to men who want to see little slave girls in almost no clothes - you can't really deny this without sounding like an extreme apologist or extremely naive, and you aren't naive after this topic.

your are absolutely right except the part about them all being slaves.

people are reading your posts and responding to them accordingly, because your points have zero merit.

funny, i would think ignoring what i'm actually trying to say here would seem to give their points zero merit.  tbh, i'm a horrible writer and i'm starting to think maybe i'm not getting what i'm trying to say across correctly, because this is really getting stupid

and you're defending this thing cos you like it's battle system?

my first post about their age was actually a joke(even though it was true).
now most people are starting to make up shit that isn't true because they don't like the game, they probably never played or are just projecting themselves on characters making them look worse then they really are(right here i'm suggesting cho is a pedo because he thinks Papa Cauldron is one)
i'm just joshing you cho, i don't think your a pedo ​

are you talking about their portrayl as sexualized little girls? in that case then, then i've said like a billion times that yes they are(with one exception). if your talking about the whole submissive thing(the one thing i really disagree on), then thats just bullshit that people are trying to say about the game because they don't like it or something.

i don't think anyone who has posted about how awful these games is telling lies to make it look bad. if it wasn't terrible, then we wouldn't dislike it. this isn't a Gamegrudge. now i haven't played these games in particular, i've only looked up some things on them cos of this topic, but in most of the jrpgs i've played the heroine or idealised female character(s) are blank slate do what is expected of them and what they are told saints, and this shit is so stupid. i'm not saying videogames are doing great harm to the plight of feminism here, but it's still gross.

i can't say anything for japan, but i doubt there are nearly as many people playing these games for a hard on as you seem to think(there are a lot of people who actually like these games for the story, humor and gameplay who don't beat off to Etna).

i'm not saying everyone who plays this is looking for a hard on, but that is the reason the offending content gets put in there - it is the only reason they would put it in, because there is a sizeable portion of the audience who does get off on this shit and buys games for it.

your are absolutely right except the part about them all being slaves.

i am not saying they are literally slaves - this is a problem you seem to have generally. you don't understand literary techniques and that there exists a level beyond the surface to all of this. these girls don't JUST HAPPEN to be what they are. the reason i used the word slaves is because that is the mentality the submissive aspect of these female characters is appealing to - they may not literally be slaves, but for all intents and purposes they may as well be.

my first post about their age was actually a joke(even though it was true).
now most people are starting to make up shit that isn't true because they don't like the game, they probably never played or are just projecting themselves on characters making them look worse then they really are

don't try and innoculate yourself from criticism while continuing to defend the thing that is being criticised, and don't make left field accusations based on nothing.

i don't think anyone who has posted about how awful these games is telling lies to make it look bad.

no they are telling lies because they are assuming they are oh so bad, even though they don't have any idea what they are talking about

if it wasn't terrible, then we wouldn't dislike it.

this is bullshit, you may think its terrible to you, but that sure as hell doesn't make it, or anything else you don't like, actually terrible. seriously i can't believe you would say something that retarded. unless you are god, then yeah you have the right to make that choice for everyone else

this isn't a Gamegrudge.

after the last thing you said i'm seriously starting to doubt that

now i haven't played these games in particular, i've only looked up some things on them cos of this topic, but in most of the jrpgs i've played the heroine or idealised female character(s) are blank slate do what is expected of them and what they are told saints, and this shit is so stupid. i'm not saying videogames are doing great harm to the plight of feminism here, but it's still gross.

so you barely know anything about the games i am actually taking about, but you are basing your assumptions, of this game, on other jrpgs, most of which have nothing to do with it?

i am not saying they are literally slaves

no fucking duh, i know exactly what you meant, i'm not an idiot. tired and a little miffed maybe.
you know what? lets pretend i am an idiot. please explain what makes all these girls 'slaves'?

don't try and innoculate yourself from criticism while continuing to defend the thing that is being criticised, and don't make left field accusations based on nothing.

my first post(if thats what you're talking about) was a joke and has nothing to do with anything else(other then starting this whole mess).
as for the "people are starting to make up shit" I was wrong. what i should have said is that, people how haven't played the game are making unfair assumptions based on information unrelated to these games themselves.
the last thing i said was joke, i don't know how you could have possibly missed that.  maybe you so go brush on your literary techniques?

no they are telling lies because they are assuming they are oh so bad, even though they don't have any idea what they are talking about
this is bullshit, you may think its terrible to you, but that sure as hell doesn't make it, or anything else you don't like, actually terrible. seriously i can't believe you would say something that retarded. unless you are god, then yeah you have the right to make that choice for everyone else

little girls dressing up like hookers is not terrible. women getting violated with Life Extending Crystals and saying thanks for it is not terrible. this stuff is worthwhile content.

so you barely know anything about the games i am actually taking about, but you are basing your assumptions, of this game, on other jrpgs, most of which have nothing to do with it?

this would be a valid point if i didn't know everything i need to know. i haven't played this game in particular so if we were discussing the gameplay or some shit like that, then all right, but we aren't, we're just talking about the portrayl of women/girls in these games and i can come to conclusions about it based on the characters background and the way they are presented. i'm also not only talking about disgaea, i'm talking about the general trend of awfulness in these games, and this stuff is a part of that.

as for the "people are starting to make up shit" I was wrong. what i should have said is that, people how haven't played the game are making unfair assumptions based on information unrelated to these games themselves.

what? how is anyone using information unrelated to these games? i think this just you not expressing yourself correctly here.

the last thing i said was joke

good joke

damn.

this video stuns me i swear to go dthis game better not be ANYTHING CLOSE to this.

little girls dressing up like hookers is not terrible. women getting violated with Life Extending Crystals and saying thanks for it is not terrible. this stuff is worthwhile content.

i have no idea what the life extending crystal(from a game i never said anything about i assume) thing is about and yeah dressing up little girls like hookers is pretty bad, but my point was saying 'i don't like something so it must be terrible' is a stupid thing to say, ever

this would be a valid point if i didn't know everything i need to know. i haven't played this game in particular so if we were discussing the gameplay or some shit like that, then all right, but we aren't, we're just talking about the portrayl of women/girls in these games and i can come to conclusions about it based on the characters background and the way they are presented. i'm also not only talking about disgaea,

i am and always have been pretty much only talking about disgaea(and maybe a little phantom brave). and since you are pretty much wrong i can only assume you don't know everything you need to know.

what? how is anyone using information unrelated to these games? i think this just you not expressing yourself correctly here.

how is saying that something happens in some other jrpgs you played, that most likely have little to no relations to the ones being mention, automaticly means it happens the same way in these games not using unrelated information?

good joke

real_jamicus seal of approval right her guys. you jealous? i bet you are...

handsome lamb you should stop making up these game videos which're clearly faked to make JRPGS look like they sexualise shit to stupid levels

yeah i too am confused as to why being attracted to a drawing of an adult is somehow better than being attracted to a drawing of a 12 year old child.

Well I think Hentai is sort of lame but someone once explained to me:

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These faces look like happy faces and genuinely communicate the idea of happiness, so by the same token sex cartoons can genuinely communicate the idea of sexiness.

idk if you caught the mocking sarcasm but what i was mostly saying was that jerking off to cartoons of clearly 9 year old girls is definitely way way worse than jerking off to cartoons of adults.  just because one's BAD doesn't make the other one not worse.

Yeah of course I also thought maybe you were just saying like I DON'T UNDERSTAND CARTOON PORN in general and I thought that the way it was explained to me was pretty cool so.

This is Ar Tonelico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoODv8LVib8

Hahahha jesus christ.

I don't know if I'm immature as crap (probably) but that was awesome.

So, so fucking terrible.