It would be pretty difficult to expect people to act like individuals on line, when so few of them can manage it in real life, though. At that point, one almost has to start making GW an exclusive club to keep the "riffraff" out (Hehe. "Riffraff." Language is so fun!)

Well, if people really want to post useless one liners, they can just as well as get on IRC. Sometimes few topics literally remind me of a chatroom more than a thread on forums, which it's not really supposed to do. It isn't realtime chat, you're supposed to put some thought into what you write.And remember, as mentioned in the announcement we aren't going to ENFORCE this really (we might mention it to some people who do it all the time, and we actually have, I've seen it on IRC), it's just that many people don't even ACKNOWLEDGE they are doing this. And hopefully after they read this they realise it's not that cool.And even though this topic isn't about the "This." thing, I have to mention this. Like already mentioned the idea behind quoting and agreeing with something like "This." might be in some occasions acceptable, such as in poll forum. But aside from that you aren't usually contributing much, or sometimes at all.For example say that there's a topic about some specific movie in general forum, first someone posts "I thought it was OK." Then someone else quotes that and says "This."I mean, sure, the movie being ok might be your opinion as well, but come on, you can at least tell what's good/bad about it. And that goes for almost any topic, usually the "This." replies quotes some relatively vague posts. I doubt that it almost ever summarizes that person's thoughts about the subject, honestly. And it isn't something that happens occassionally, that'd be fine, but you can go to almost any topic and see people doing it.And Wackfiend what the hell are you talking about?

Gamingw doesn't seem worse than a couple of years ago. Maybe its just because some of the moderators have been here a long time and so have got a "kids these days... don't know how to post..." attitude. When one is in their early teens one likes all that internet baffoonery.

But on the other side of the coin, I'm sure we don't want to become uber strict communist forum either. Of course I know this isn't what the mods are talking about at all, but I'm just trying to get across that this doesn't mean no more fun and games, it just means not every other post should be "gay imo".

Exactly. We don't want GW to become some very strict forum where nothing is allowed. We want to keep the old atmosphere and we will allow people to have fun and play around as long as it's actually funny or at least not just entirely shitty.

I think one of the things Azure was talking about was the aforementioned Hundley. I constantly see him post nonsense posts, and a lot of the times I find them quite funny, but that doesn't mean that they are needed. And as far as I know, he hasn't suffered any reprocutions because of such posts.

This topic is not about spamming or one-liners. It's about how members have no personality and they all post in a similar fashion to the point you can't tell difference between them. I can tell Hundley's posts apart from others. Like I just mentioned above, we don't want people to stop having fun. This topic is not about that at all.

Another good thing Azure brought up was the Mod/Admin attitudes. A while ago I severely hated the way Steel got around doing pretty much anything he wanted, doing some pretty stupid things that normal members would get warned/banned for. Some of the mods even agreed with me (that whole "4 out of 5 moderators think Steel is an idiot" sig), but with Steel being a Mod there wasn't really anything to do. For whatever reason, I haven't noticed Steel doing anything "unmodly" for quite some time now, nor any other mods, but in the past I can recall this being a big problem, just as Azure mentioned.

Jesus. There's nothing wrong with the attitudes of our moderating team. They are humans too and yes, they have done mistakes but this is not about that. Try to stay on topic. Thanks for pointing fingers though, you sure contributed!

I was just saying I agreed with what Azure had said, and gave some examples of what he was talking about. Sure, I didn't refer to any of the mods going "this", but it was still a problem plaguing GW because of the ways the mods acted. Basically, yeah, GW has a lot of shit in it recently, but its not necessarily (though most often is) because of the newer/younger members.

You don't get it AT ALL. Azure wasn't saying HAY MODERATORS HAVE ATTITUDE PROBLAMS THEY DONT DO THEIR JOB WELL. He was saying that moderators and some other popular members are also part of the problem on hand. The problem on hand. The problem we are talking in this topic. NOT what you are talking about. Let me say it one more time. NOT what you are talking about. Do you get it? Moderators are part of the problem because they have been doing this shit too. Or rather, they have been INSPIRATION because they are fairly popular members. It's true that moderators have been doing this stuff as well but that's not all of it. Even targers like Hundley who have personality could be root of this problem. Steel could be one. Rowain or I could also be one cause of this problem. Not because we jumped on the bandwagon, though. It's because we have posted one-liners, we have double posted and we have posted in the lower caps style. But we have been doing it for a long time, long before this problem got serious because everyone started doing it in the SAME WAY. It wasn't always like that. The fact that we have this problem now doesn't mean we posted in a similar way as most of the members who are doing it now or that we didn't have personality. That's why it wasn't a problem before.Man, let me say a good example. I still remember when I started the "imo" trend on IRC and forums just to see how long it'll take before people start to use it. And it didn't take long until people started to use it. Was it a problem when I was doing it? Not really. But when others started using it in a similar way, of course it became a problem because everyone was doing it. Before I started the whole "imo" thing, I told some people what I'm trying to test. rami probably remembers it. However, the difference between my example and the issue on hand is that the members who jumped on the bandwagon aren't even necessarily posting in a similar fashion as the members who might be more or less reason of the problem.

so one-liners are a big No-No now? Is that what this is all about? Or am I just not reading everything correctly and need to seriously learn my English? Teach me you almighty mods. Teach me the ways of a good poster so I can eventually reach my destiny of being a great poster of many words! No seriously, please answer my question.

It's not the one liners. It's the CONTENT of those one liners. Just take a look into the page one for examples.

also i am a pretty awful poster but you guys know you'd miss me      ​

Indeed.Shit, I'm displaying MY bad habit right here.(And then conveniently, no "Edited by" line appears. Fuck.)