Forgive me if I get the wrong message from this topic, but I read through this entire thing and I somehow came up with that post, so it must have SOME connection to the topic at hand.

So you admit that you find them funny, and yet they're somehow "unnecessary"? Do you think they harm the seriousness of this place? Of course, you can personally be serious about every topic in here, but that doesn't mean it's unwanted if someone brings humor into the atmosphere; and like he's said, it's not like he doesn't have it in him to take up a good (human-legible) argument sometimes. He actually usually does, cleverly hidden in humor. You can either see it or you can't.What I do know, however, is that punishing someone for making good posts that are sometimes simple beside the point isn't a good idea. The real bother are the people who, like stated in this topic over and over again, don't put in any effort at all. Hundley is actually very much beside the point in this discussion, and although it was wrong to call his name, I kind of thought that it would happen.

Rowain said that "Quoting + This" is little more than post count +1.  How do Hundley's posts differ from that?  Often times his posts have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, one example being the "office depot ate my baby" mentioned earlier.  This may not focus on the topic at hand, but just imagine if everyone posted this nonsense.  Like Azure said, if some member sees Hundley doing it and sees that it is alright, what is to stop him from doing it as well?

I'll leave alone your argument that Steel does "unmodly" things for now, and skip to what bothered me the most about this.So you say that "some of the mods" "even agreed" with the sig? And we're to believe that no-citation gossip quote? When you're trying to get a mod to change his attitude (which you're clearly trying to do, even if you state that you think he hasn't done anything wrong the past while) then you're going to have to come with a lot more than "some people agreed with me when I said this before". Even if you say that these "some people" are mods, this is still a completely empty argument. Furthermore, you state that these "some people" agreed with you, but how are we to know that they didn't just slightly see your point rather than agree, or even disagreed but joined in as a joke (by adding the image to their sig)?I know that taking apart your posts is probably a waste of my time, but I think it's important to note exactly what bothers me about each and every one of your posts: you don't think out your arguments to iron out the painfully obvious counter-arguments that are just waiting to be made, and you simply don't put in any effort to make yourself credible. I don't think I've ever seen you make a post that made me think "hmm, even though I don't agree with his opinion, he's got a good point there", and if you keep this up, I don't think you ever will.

UPRC actually agreed with me.  From what he told me, he had brought something up in the mod forum, but he didn't think there was anything he could do since Steel was so well liked around the forums.  Everyone that heralded that Steel sig may or may not have agreed with me, but I'm certain at least one person did.DS I pretty much covered any rebuttle I would have had to your post already.Now, to stay on the topic at hand, I don't think anyone has trouble telling my posts from the others seeing as mine are the only ones that make no fucking sense.

All this talk of individuality just reminds me of how sheeplike the human race can be.  I suppose it translates to all walks of life, even the internet.I've never really been one to follow trends, no matter how many people might be on board the bandwagon, but sometimes I think that letting them run their course might be more effective than trying to stifle them.  This is an untested theory, of course, so please don't quote me on that.By the by, though, I don't think this topic really relates to me at all, seeing as I generally blank the posts that I feel are not worth reading and just skip to the next (admittedly sometimes I have to jump entire forum pages to find a worthwhile post, but it really doesn't bother me at all since I don't ever see the situation improving majorly and I just like to get on with things).

Rowain said that "Quoting + This" is little more than post count +1. How do Hundley's posts differ from that? Often times his posts have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, one example being the "office depot ate my baby" mentioned earlier. This may not focus on the topic at hand, but just imagine if everyone posted this nonsense. Like Azure said, if some member sees Hundley doing it and sees that it is alright, what is to stop him from doing it as well?

...Because those are FUNNY.  And QUOTING + THIS doesn't contribute to ANYTHING the topic, humor, THE INTERNET AND LIFE IN GENERAL.  Aside from that, that was NEVER the point of this topic.  If you want to be RELEVANT try to you know, MAKE AN EFFORT.  People have brought Hundley up before, and if GW's going to be some kind of shitty place where a guy who makes pretty fucking good posts about half the time will get warned for an occasional "I HAVE RUBBER BABIES" post...Yeah, needless to say, you're kind of a faggot if you'd rather have that.Then again, you've made it very clear you don't have a good grasp of SUBTLETY AND COMPARISON

UPRC actually agreed with me. From what he told me, he had brought something up in the mod forum, but he didn't think there was anything he could do since Steel was so well liked around the forums. Everyone that heralded that Steel sig may or may not have agreed with me, but I'm certain at least one person did.    DS I pretty much covered any rebuttle I would have had to your post already.    Now, to stay on the topic at hand, I don't think anyone has trouble telling my posts from the others seeing as mine are the only ones that make no fucking sense.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.Holy shit.First off, you are aware the reason EVERYONE had that sig was because I told most of them to use it?  Even Creeper took it out of his sig when he saw what a complete joke it had been turned into.  4 OUT OF 5 MODS wasn't even remotely close to accurate; like, not only was it probably closer to FOUR OUT OF THE ENTIRE MOD, STAFF, AND ADMIN COMMUNITY, but most of the people who supported it have all LEFT.  And as much as you'd like to blame that on me (we all know how good you are at passing the buck "MY PASS IS FUCKING COUNTERFEIT"), they mostly quit or left because they were either not doing good jobs or because they were too busy.  So basically, the four mods who supported it (ps, no one actually KNOWS who these four mods are; from your post, I'm going to guess UPRC was one, and I think Legacy is another one) are either bad at being connected to the community or grossly inept.Like, how can you so grossly misinterpret something?  It's even in the GW dictionary, Creeper's prank completely backfired when about twenty other people signed up and used the sig because I made a topic advocating it and spread it to everyone I could find.  I think MEKESSS is the only one who used it in actual ANGER and if you want fired ex-mod obese pedophile on your side, go ahead!Oh, and UPRC didn't bring anything up; I MADE HIM BRING IT UP.  He kept bringing it OUTSIDE the mod forum, because, you know, that is a PROFESSIONAL way to deal with things apparently.  Regardless, I brought it up, not him.  And it ended up being a gross misinterpretation that started the whole debacle.

It strikes me that a lot of people have no personality anyway so you wouldn't be able to tell their posts from someone elses whether they wrote ten paragraphs or ten words. It seems irrelevant.To me it seems the drive behind this is not about INDIVIDUALITY at all but just to avoid a forum filled with:"what do you think of this?""gay imo""lol""great topic fucktard""stop fucking flaming FFS""hahahaha"etc.Which is fine by me, but don't pretend your trying to foster individuality.

True as this may be, I know some of the people who post like that and know for a fact they DO have a personality beyond "hahahahha" and "wat".Like, this is the case with all large forums; there will be people that you won't really notice.  But those people don't POST with frequency.  I can rattle off ten names that do the shit above that post regularly, but I can't tell you a damn thing about them from this weird trendy one-liner shit.

I'd like to think that some of my real personality comes across in my posts, though I never think about it consciously.I do, however, remember the days I posted inane rubbish, and besides the lack of capitalisation and appalling spelling, I realised that it was a one way ticket to being just another member of a large community, and since I didn't want to get lost in the mire I consciously changed my ways until it became second nature.I don't see how we can 'force' members to inject a little more of themselves into their posts, but I think anyone who does do this should be encouraged and applauded (as long as it doesn't go against any code of conduct we have around this place).

You could at least dress it up a little. Leaving it at "This" is just laziness. Even "Yeah I agree. And what really gets me is ______" would do.

Disagreed. That's just not a neccessary contribution.

First off you are aware the reason EVERYONE had that sig was because I told most of them to use it?  

That's not true, I had it on before you, then rowain told me to take it off so it didn't start a trend, so I did. And then after EVERYONE STARTED DOING IT ANYWAY I put it back on.::edit:: sorry for the off topic.

...if this is to me first of all, why did you not bring this up in the topic in the mod forum, when, you know, WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING IT.

i did not know that is exactly what you were talking about!but to the rest of what you said : ok go og ogo gogogoggo go gogg go i will just go along with it

Disagreed. That's just not a neccessary contribution.

what?yes it is.EXAMPLEI am making a poll SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS GOOD GAME Y/N.You are posting.  Hey what's this, VB posted before you and said "I liked it, a solid game over all".  LET'S QUOTE HIM.But uh.  Are you sure you guys have the EXACT SAME OPINION on the subject?Occasionally, someone will write like, an ESSAY that you might agree entirely on, but even then, there are things you can disagree or build upon.  Like, a lot of people say Shadow of the Colossus has a great atmosphere.  I personally thought it was kind of SHITTILY DONE in that regard sometimes, particularly at the end.So, I could do this.

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I'm a big fan of Colossus, a general step forward for gaming as a whole

this

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I'm a big fan of Colossus, a general step forward for gaming as a whole

While I do agree with Colossus being one of the better efforts put forth recently, some of the minor shit just seemed to bother me like FUFUFUFU

Get it?  It doesn't have to even be a disagreeing statement either.

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I'm a big fan of Colossus, a general step forward for gaming as a whole

I agree wholeheartedly; I particularly liked how the main character, while saying almost nothing, still managed to FUFUFUFU

Also the whole "This" debate isn't really the point of the topic so asdoaina.

I don't see how we can 'force' members to inject a little more of themselves into their posts, but I think anyone who does do this should be encouraged and applauded (as long as it doesn't go against any code of conduct we have around this place)

Thing is, it just HAPPENS.  I can't make people NOT BE ASSHOLES or BORING or whatever, but that comes through in the post anyways.  Case and point, Jester and myself.

 because no one calls them on it. i don't see a point, half the mods are like NO IT'S FUNNY so i just leave it. merry xmas all (except drule)

sorry, you're about as a big a faggot if you think UNFUNNY DOUBLE POSTED GARBAGE is targ. or that leafo is even part of the "TARG KREW". so uh. everyone shut up. I find it amazing how you can manage to shit up a MERRY CHRISTMAS thread, but good job!

Similar points, and even similar posting style that time, and yet you can clearly tell who is who!  It just NATURALLY HAPPENS.However this BORING posting of "oh shit" and "i am witty" is not just BLAND but kind of spammy too!

That's not true, I had it on before you, then rowain told me to take it off so it didn't start a trend, so I did. And then after EVERYONE STARTED DOING IT ANYWAY I put it back on.

Yeah, that's right.  Forgot about that!

Should the ppl who only post one word be warned or something later on? :S

Also, yeah, just a small note; why do people think we DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING?  I'm just asking, but the GW mod community is more aware than you think about community problems and mod situations.  Turkpimp once made like 25 topics to prove a point on an issue that none of you even know existed!  We are more than capable of, you know, REALIZING WHEN SHIT HAS GONE WRONG.  Being a mod is not just checking if people break the rules, we're kind of in tune with the community and a lot of people in it.So stop assuming "ARGH GW WHY HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED [insert ][/insert] IS DOING THIS SHIT" because trust me, we know, and we're dealing with it better than any single one of us could because..............gw modteam.....................is family....................

i am such a spaz

you are such a spaz.

Poor noobs who just joined will probably have such a hard time figuring out what's "acceptable" now. They just have so many rules piled upon them with no guidance in such a big big gaming world.I know when I first joined for the sole purpose of "adding my opinions," I got stepped on. How is a new person supposed "show her personality" when nobody even knew who she was at that point? Also, in order for me not to be "stepped on" or "get noticed" was to try and post amusing one-liners, as it was popular.Honestly, I think this whole movement against "bad posting habits" is targeting the wrong things. Trends and popularity happens, but now you mods are trying to stop what you in part help started? Do you see this stuff in our society today? (society as in the real world, not gw) If so, do you agree with what they're doing? It's like trying to stop people from buying ipods. It's kinda too late. And it'll only alienate the users.What you really should be targeting are flamers. People who make harmless one-liners aren't hurting anyone. So what if the post count is higher? Does post count earn you money or something? No. I think the people who make one-liners for the sole intent of spamming up a decent topic or cruel flaming should be targeted. By that I mean people who, for example, give people crap for starting a harmless, serious thread. Those posts hurt people, not one-liners that say "I agree" and didn't show the poster's beautiful personality.

long message about fitting in

For one, no one is saying NO MORE FUNNY POSTS. It is just when every "funny post" is exactly the same. (IE: gwhat)I don't think anyone is going to ban you for occasionally making a funny post as long as it is relavent to the topic.The thing that they're concerned about ("this" "I agree") is that it contributes nothing and can be classified as spam, and people have to wade through that.

Thing is it just HAPPENS.  I can't make people NOT BE ASSHOLES or BORING or whatever, but that comes through in the post anyways.  Case and point, Jester and myself.

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because no one calls them on it. i don't see a point, half the mods are like NO IT'S FUNNY so i just leave it. merry xmas all (except drule)

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sorry, you're about as a big a faggot if you think UNFUNNY DOUBLE POSTED GARBAGE is targ. or that leafo is even part of the "TARG KREW". so uh. everyone shut up. I find it amazing how you can manage to shit up a MERRY CHRISTMAS thread, but good job!

Similar points, and even similar posting style that time, and yet you can clearly tell who is who!  It just NATURALLY HAPPENS.

i can't ​but seriously no sometimes you DO 100% agree with someone and do not wish to add anythingi browse gw a lot while doing other things, and i do not have time to add an essay onto every post (or 2 lines)if someone has said EXACTLY what i wish to say, i'll just quote it and maybe add a few words "yeah, this is pretty much how i feel" or somethingis that better than "this"? if so hooray i will just do that and this topic is closed to me, if not then no more debating a'goin on ​note: as before, i am PURELY talking about this happening in the poll forum. in the vg forum and shit yeah people always have slightly differing viewpointsedit42: ohmigoddess, you aren't allowed to dispute this rule that much, sorry. this is happening, if you do not agree with it you are more than welcome to leave!

you are such a spaz.

"ARGH GW WHY HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED HUNDLEY IS DOING THIS SHIT"

gw modteam.....................is family....................

okay gw mafia family attack! or something

"ARGH GW WHY HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED HUNDLEY IS DOING THIS SHIT"okay gw mafia family attack! or something

You actually made a post that's useless in a topic about a new rule outlawing useless posts. Why?

fuck dude. I'm honestly pissed off at stuff like this. I'm trying to stop posting crappy stuff like that, but its an addiction. Though if i'm a run of the mill addict, Hundley there is a fucking coke whore.btw, that post was more mocking than anything else

A problem though, is that sometimes there are double standards where a member will post something annoying and become flamed to hell because of it, but if a more well-known (and liked or at least highly regarded) member posts something of similar caliber, it is called "witty", "funny", "clever", etc.. I don't care about this personality shit, an annoying post is an annoying post. However, I must say that if a new member sees other members post "witty" material, the member might mimic this posting behaviour and fail at it since they don't even know what made it funny in the first place.I don't hate funny posts or anything, but seeing someone post things in the same style all the time... it gets old. It's like a comedian retelling the same joke, which may also catch on and then you have people thinking they're funny by doing the same thing. I also see a fair amount of unnesessary of flaming. Insulting users because of their opinion or point of view on a subject. That is just unkind and makes the user feel unwelcome.