RPG Tales of Symphonia 2 & Tales of Vespira (Read 7529 times)

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Not everyone lives off of daddys money  :rolleyes: . And the PS2 still has life in it, and since its not completely gone yet, I don't see why they can't still makes games for it.

Hells yeah Persona 4 coming out on December...PS2 for life!!!
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there were STILL a couple of RPGs on the cube when it released like "Baten Kaitos". I also agree that destiny is awesome but abyss and eternia blew that one away. However the ToD remake DOES look awesome, hopfully the cheeky bastards will release it here >:Ι

I dunno if it BLEW IT AWAY, per se. Destiny till this day is my favorite Tales game, and imo one of the best RPGs out there. The dialogue was very realistic, all the characters were likeable and I like how the game took a cliche and molded it so well. It also had the best soundtrack imo, and kept the japanese vocals. The remake looks excellent, but like you said we shouldnt hold our breath because I doubt its coming anytime soon. Too bad the sequel fucking sucked =(

TotA's characters are TOO JAP ANIME, if you know what I mean. I hated Luke until near the end (his char development was good) but the ending was so fucking bad, as was that lame final boss fight.

But the real reason I dont like Abyss that much was fucking Mieu. Idc what kind of CBS or 100+ gameplay you have, thats enough gay to ruin any game.

Oh yeah, I think ToV may be good though! Just as long as its Wolf Team and not Namco trying at another attempt to develop a Tales game.

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I enjoyed Tales of Symphonia, I'll definitely be looking forward to this. I wonder what kind of a sequel this will be...
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Not everyone lives off of daddys money  :rolleyes: . And the PS2 still has life in it, and since its not completely gone yet, I don't see why they can't still makes games for it.
I would have been seriously disappointed if either of these games had come out on the PS2, in fact I don't get why Persona 4 is coming out on PS2 when there are newer more powerful systems out there that would allow them to make a more detailed realisation of there ideas.

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Then what is your excuse for not getting a 360 and/ or a Wii? Especially before a PS3?

Prices dude. Prices. I don't live in "moneyrika", where people have money to throw around.

Let's see

PS2: Selling Price: (atm) $300, affordable, games sold here

Xbox: Selling Price: (atm) $960 fuck that, games sold: no

Wii: Selling Price: (atm) $675: games sold: 5 or 6

Xbox 360: Selling Price: (atm) not sold here

PS3: Selling Price: (atm) $1600, games sold: 5 or 6 last i checked

Im not even bother with the currency, because $1600 is $1600 no matter where you are, end of the day, that how much you spend.
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holy shit dude what country do you live in o_o


ps2 is like 100usd
xbox is like 100usd
wii is like 250usd
xbox 360 is like 300usd
ps3 is like 350usd
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Prices dude. Prices. I don't live in "moneyrika", where people have money to throw around.

Let's see

PS2: Selling Price: (atm) $300, affordable, games sold here

Xbox: Selling Price: (atm) $960 fuck that, games sold: no

Wii: Selling Price: (atm) $675: games sold: 5 or 6

Xbox 360: Selling Price: (atm) not sold here

PS3: Selling Price: (atm) $1600, games sold: 5 or 6 last i checked

Im not even bother with the currency, because $1600 is $1600 no matter where you are, end of the day, that how much you spend.
Damn where you're at the regular Xbox still costs more than the Wii?... never mind then, you have good reason to still want games on the PS2. Hell if systems costed that much here then I'd probably want it to come out on the PS1 let alone the PS2. Matter of fact I think your PS2s cost around what I paid for my XBox 360 and PS3.

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It's in Fiji dollars, that's why the price is so high.
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yeah but 1 FJD is equal to about .65 USD WHY THE FUCK IS SHIT SO EXPENSIVE IN FIJI???

Seriously, how can any store make money selling a last gen console for 600 american dollerz??  This is ridiculous, I should take all of my old consoles to Fiji and make thousands!
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Prices dude. Prices. I don't live in "moneyrika", where people have money to throw around.

Let's see

PS2: Selling Price: (atm) $300, affordable, games sold here

Xbox: Selling Price: (atm) $960 fuck that, games sold: no

Wii: Selling Price: (atm) $675: games sold: 5 or 6

Xbox 360: Selling Price: (atm) not sold here

PS3: Selling Price: (atm) $1600, games sold: 5 or 6 last i checked

Im not even bother with the currency, because $1600 is $1600 no matter where you are, end of the day, that how much you spend.

I don't know it looks like $1600 to you is $400 to me because if I had $1600 fuck getting a ps3, thats a new top of the line high end PC.... or a used car.
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Prices dude. Prices. I don't live in "moneyrika", where people have money to throw around.

Let's see

PS2: Selling Price: (atm) $300, affordable, games sold here

Xbox: Selling Price: (atm) $960 fuck that, games sold: no

Wii: Selling Price: (atm) $675: games sold: 5 or 6

Xbox 360: Selling Price: (atm) not sold here

PS3: Selling Price: (atm) $1600, games sold: 5 or 6 last i checked

Im not even bother with the currency, because $1600 is $1600 no matter where you are, end of the day, that how much you spend.

damn! I will honorably stop questioning you. I would rather eat snot from a buffalo's anus(lol, avgn) than pay that much >.<
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damn! I will honorably stop questioning you. I would rather eat snot from a buffalo's anus(lol, avgn) than pay that much >.<

For fucks sake.
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lame soundtrack
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Apparently you didn't beat the game huh?

I think ToS2 is simply using TotA's engine with a few enhancements. Seriously, it looks completely similar. Not even only the combat. But hey, I'm not complaining. TotA's systems were pretty good.
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I think ToS2 is simply using TotA's engine with a few enhancements. Seriously, it looks completely similar. Not even only the combat. But hey, I'm not complaining. TotA's systems were pretty good.
ToS2's battle system is sorta a mix between Abyss' and Innocence's battle system, meaning air combos are more of a part of the game since you can use your Artes/Skills/Techs whatever they call'em in this game in the air.
By the way they already stated in a interview video on Gametrailers that you won't be using motion controls to attack.

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So no motion controls =  day 1 buy for me.
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Man I love RPGs (especially generic lame ones!) but Tales Of games are in my opinion the worst thing that has ever come from Japan outside of zippers and the developer Idea Factory as a whole.  But I don't know these screenshots are oddly compelling and I'm a little interested!
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if you're talking about that lame mmorpg that got axed, i think it was true fantasy live online.  or maybe phantasy, i don't remember.

Yeah, that's the one... though I thought it looked kind of cool. ;_;

Anyway, just noticed.  Fourth screenshot down on Symphonia 2 looks like the pier/dock area from Izoold in the first game, though I don't think you actually did any battling there. (well, I remember that if you followed a certain sidequest you might see Monster/Marble though I don't recall if you could actually fight her and even then you met her down by the shore, not on the pier)  Anyway, I'm wondering that since the game lacks a proper a world map that battle ranges might extend beyond just passages between populated areas to some of those populated areas themselves.

Would be interesting anyway.
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Man I love RPGs (especially generic lame ones!) but Tales Of games are in my opinion the worst thing that has ever come from Japan outside of zippers and the developer Idea Factory as a whole.  But I don't know these screenshots are oddly compelling and I'm a little interested!

But what about the battle system? When the first one came out, it blew other jrpgs out of the water. The battle system alone is what made the Tales series great, not to mention the stellar graphics (for its time) of the first one. The Tales series pretty much went downhill though for me. Tales of Symphonia was the worst game of the series with its horrible voice acting and crappy 3D animations. Hopefully Tale of Symphonia 2 will be better. I haven't tried the PSP Tales games, I'll have to play them sometime.
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Tales of Vesperia actually looks somewhat interesting. I seriously hope they work on the game's story. Phantasia and Symphonia (only tales games I own) both had horrible plots.
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But what about the battle system? When the first one came out, it blew other jrpgs out of the water. The battle system alone is what made the Tales series great,

I disagree.  Tales Of games have all the same mechanics of a typical turn-based RPG but reduce them to button-mashing games.  You cannot explore the finer details of the battle system because either 1. it is too hectic and you can't really manage everything going on so you might as well just mash the attack button or or 2. magic spells and abilities break up the action instead of occuring in real time so you probably don't feel like using those either.  If you do decide to use them you no longer have a sense of momentum when returning to the game field.  Tales Of games always feel really loose and sloppy to me so I really don't get into their gameplay.  Rather than the slow-paced and arguably boring but very strategic gameplay of something like a Dragon Quest or Shin Megami game, I get the same mechanics forced into a brawler with suspect collision detection, poor game response time, and floaty movement.  This is not to mention that they are the least-inspired jRPGs out there in every other regard too (writing, aesthetics, etc).  I read somewhere that one time the composer was forced to write an entire soundtrack in like 48 hours or something.  With development cycles like that it's no wonder they are so bad!  Like seriously the games play sort of like Dynasty Warriors or something and some people like that but I and the rest of America really really don't.

I haven't tried the PSP Tales games, I'll have to play them sometime.

I actually liked Radiant Mythology a lot and was convinced for a few hours that I might actually fall in love with a Tales Of game.  However once it set in that the entire game structure was built around 5 or so missions that are literally repeated approximately 100 times each (I am seriously not kidding) my heart sank and I moved on.  I guess the fanservice cameos are great for longtime fans but when the only thing discerning one character from another is his/her hairstyle and I hadn't loved the original games anyway I didn't really get into that either.

But I guess there are one or two Tales Of games I haven't given the time of day so maybe I should try them?

But yeah Tales of Vespiria looks really good and I can't wait to play it!

Also: Darkjak you have some formatting problems with your original post.