Adama is totally the last cylon.

this show rules and I love it a lot, but I like the older series more, most likely out of nostalgia. Baltar is basically the best character on the show, and probably any sci-fi show ever, and the actor is so good.

this show rules and I love it a lot, but I like the older series more, most likely out of nostalgia. Baltar is basically the best character on the show, and probably any sci-fi show ever, and the actor is so good.

i guess i can understand camp enjoyment of the original version over this one, but i don't think there's really any way you can say it's better than the version we have now. i take it you aren't 40 some years old and didn't watch the original when it was on, so you mean like, you like that old timey 70's feel it has with all the haircuts and corniness?

the new bsg is something i can't really make a decision on whether i love it or not. it is so melodramatic and dour, but they play it so utterly straight and intense that you just ride along with it. the writing can be pretty bad, like, it is not funny. they can't make a joke on this show without having it fall flat or just be bland sarcastic dialogue. except baltar i guess, but that is truly all down to james callis cos he's a funny man.

one thing which attracted me to it years back when i started watching it was how women are apparently treated equally in the military etc, i dunno i just thought a show which decides to make that conscious choice is gonna be more thoughtful and interesting than most science fiction. and i think i was mostly right, i mean there are a few things which still annoy me. like calling all women of rank "sir". the reason RDM gave for that was that calling a superior officer "maam" SOUNDED SILLY. and words like frack and motherfracker don't sound silly, apparently - but they show got over that and now in season 4 you hear frack and you just accept it, that's how these characters swear. i think it would've been a better choice to own the word maam in the same way, and it would be a stronger statement than calling these women sir. then there's starbuck, who is a gender politics train wreck.

but it's not all bad with the women on the show, they do at least do more than most shows.



that's not really all i wanted to say about this, probably not even the most important stuff but i have to go. i'll post again later.

I think its still pretty up in the air who is the last cylon.  I've thought about it being starbuck or roslin.  Hadn't thought about older adama, although Gaeta did cross my mind.

My first thought with the idea of baltar being the final cylon is NAH THATS TOO EASY, but that is what they expect everybody to be thinking, so maybe he IS the last one.

Who knows!

Nah dudes its totally Adama. Man in control of mankinds last hope....is actually a cylon. Be brilliant.

i guess i can understand camp enjoyment of the original version over this one, but i don't think there's really any way you can say it's better than the version we have now. i take it you aren't 40 some years old and didn't watch the original when it was on, so you mean like, you like that old timey 70's feel it has with all the haircuts and corniness?

I think it's better in its own way. Maybe not better on the WHICH ONE IS THE BEST OF THE TWO spectrum, and while I love the new BSG to death, I think in its own campy, 70s way, the old BSG is better. They are two different beasts tho, even if they carry the same name. The new BSG does a lot right but its not going for the campy 70s sci-fi feel.

no i'm only 19 but my dad is a fan of BSG (both, as well) and thus I saw it as a child. It was pretty cool.

i think they blew the cylon wad with the final four reveal so really i don't care who the final cylon is, either. i mean tigh was probably the most surprising choice because he's just outsider enough for it to be plausible and clever but so important to the show it was actually pretty paradigm shifting, and also affecting when he was all "what about ellen?". i like tigh a lot for some obvious reasons. i don't even care if we never find out, i kind of wish they'd either just get it over with cos there are more interesting things going on the show right now anyway.

what i wanna see is how they're gonna handle earth. as i understand it, they are gonna find it in episode 10 (which i'm downloading right now) and i want to know what the planet is going to be like and what they're gonna do when they get there.

see i loved new caprica cos i just get a huge kick out of seeing societies build up and little cultures form. like, when lost first aired i was kind of excited cos 48 survivors on a desert island screamed tribal government shit to me and i was all amped up for castaway with a political slant but instead in turned into a bunch of supernatural superstious nonsense which threw around phrases like "the shape of things to come" and "...it's time to get some answers." way, way too much.

bsg also has this problem, but ironically for a show set in deep space it's much more grounded in reality and how people actually act, and that is why i've stuck with it and continue to enjoy it despite it's many problems.


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i just watched revelations AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA nuclear winter!

so i guess they just head back home now. you know, let's not go to earth it is a silly place. i never understood that they didn't even consider heading back to the 12 whole planets they had before once cylon relations went past the level of shoot on sight. it seems like might be exactly what they do now though, having come together and all that with the cylons they can head back home again. i don't really see how they can make it on a totally barren planet. i mean caprica was irradiated, but that goes away after years (or is it decades? either way it seemed salvagable from what we saw) and then there is the other 11 planets.

it's the only thing that makes sense, and heading back to the colonies actually makes all that "all this has happened before and all this will happen again" schtick work. humanity creates it's own worst enemy (global warming, nuclear war, cylons - whatever would force us off a planet) and is sent on some sacred pilgrimage only to find we done the same thing the last time and it's an endless cycle of we're all fucked with a few moments of happiness in between.

that's actually really interesting and much more than i expected from the end of this. this is really going to end well and i think it's going to be the best ending a sci-fi show will have ever had. they actually have a story to tell here, it's not just a rambling series of episodes. well this is what i think following this episode anyway. even if it did move too fast for the first 20 minutes and fell flat because of that.

i want at least a couple of episodes of nuclear wasteland wandering when it comes back in 09, though. and judging by that shot of kara sitting by a fire burning religious texts to stay warm that's what we'll get.

yeah i dont know really.  maybe earth isnt ENTIRELY barren, maybe they can eke out a harsh existence while fixing the planet or something?  I KNEW there had to be a leaden lining in the silver floating condensation cause it all seemed too good to be true and surprise!  It is!

I'm still not sure who the last cylon is.  it can't be Gaeta cause, provided diana was being honest, she said that only FOUR were with the fleet, which means that we already know the four with the fleet.   I guess that rules out starbuck then too?  In fact, that basically hammers it down to adama, roslin, or baltar I think, since they were the only ones on the base star.  Adama DOES seem the most likely candidate out of the three actually, not only because of the lol irony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!couchfiend aspect but because hes the only one of them who hasn't really had it hinted at all that he is a cylon.  The suspicion has been purposely planted in regards to roslin and baltar, but adama has been unerrantly shown as the stalwart hero of humanity etc etc etc.

So yeah, maybe its adama.  I still think baltar would be a cool anti-irony choice and i would like it since I think most people have written him off since he was initially the most obvious choice etc, so it would actually be pleasantly surprising imo.

Good episode though, pretty ridiculous.  I was sure tigh was gonna get airlocked cause they cut it real close and the show has done shit like that before.

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humanity creates it's own worst enemy (global warming, nuclear war, cylons - whatever would force us off a planet) and is sent on some sacred pilgrimage only to find we done the same thing the last time and it's an endless cycle of we're all fucked with a few moments of happiness in between.

that's actually really interesting and much more than i expected from the end of this. this is really going to end well and i think it's going to be the best ending a sci-fi show will have ever had. they actually have a story to tell here, it's not just a rambling series of episodes. well this is what i think following this episode anyway. even if it did move too fast for the first 20 minutes and fell flat because of that.

yeah, I do like the little twist of dammit, earth fucked their shit up too.  I saw a post somewhere else where some guy was talking about how maybe its all just a big cycle, you know humans create machines to advance civilization and etc and then machines eventually want to become more like their creators and become humans and then after years and years they again create machines to advance civilization and etc and etc!  That is another interesting train of thought

I just watched the last episode and idk

It's a little confusing, though; weren't they on Earth in like season 2, in some nice meadow?

Were they?  When?  I do not remember this.

btw does anyone notice odd inconsistencies?

Yeah, I have been seeing here and there, now that you mention it.  What a bunch of fuckasses.

i thought they were talking about the constellations starbuck marked when she saw earth.