After two days of yelling at Mass Effect for being so damn bad, I finally got bored of watching Niko Bellic die. No way was I planning to throw in Halo 3 (usless without LIVe, which I don't have.) I ended up throwing in the good old Fable, since I pictured myself playing Mass Effect forever, hence my purchasing of only 3 games with the 360.

So I ended up playing Fable for quite a while, and i was doing a mission naked for the sake of a few more renown. Low and behold, my character was naked. Now in fable if you strip down for missions or just for kicks, you will see the English flag on trhe back of blue breifs, well detailed and drawn to look very realistic. But with the old disc, I guess, my nameless hero was mysteriously changed. The blue underwear was... sawed off. And a Ken doll smooth spot was added, along with a rather vauge but still visible... crack.

After a few minutes here and there it eventually changed back and forth. I thought it was a 360 bonus at first. Then the hairs on his ehad vanished for a second. Also his eyes were solid yellow-green for some time, until I turned off the console.

Anyone else get this reaction?

yeah, even if you DO NOT LIKE IT A LOT i think it's pretty hilarious to hate it.  like, there's pretty much zero justification for saying it is an AWFUL GAME when at the very least it is probably just mediocre/okay.

I got Mass Effect (and virtually nothing else) with the idea of being able to play through the story, and then venture through the galaxy, and probably never need to buy another 360 game until fable 2 or Force Unleashed came out. Little did I know that after 8 days and 11 hours of gameplay, I would have beaten the so called "Fable in space" with out much effort.

And as much as I would enjoy playing through those FOUR missions again with a "completely" different character, I don't feeling like watching the screen blink as I sell the 70000000 augmentations in that game.

The average RPG has 40 hours of gameplay.
The average non-RPG has 30.
Mass Effect, well, If I didn't play through those stupid sidequests like "get back black guys dead wife" then I could have beaten in in like... 9 hours.

And yes, I did like it, for the most part. and after playing GTAIV first, I did enjoy the gangster feeling of the first mission on the citadel. running around, shooting up a club, stopping some thugs from shanking Tali (only interesting character in the game), but seriously.

I spent those eight days engulfed in a great universe, putting aside sidequests, which I was saving for later. Little did I know that everytime I relode my file, I'll see Seren's geth form again and again and again.

And there are achievements that you Can earn by keeping each individual party member for the majority of the game. Well not only is beating the game not regarded as majority in any way, but I never saw a chance to kill Tali or Garrus or.... blue chick. So I beat the "majority" and technically earned like 9 Achievements that I never got.

I had more fun playing the geometry wars demo.

I got Mass Effect (and virtually nothing else) with the idea of being able to play through the story, and then venture through the galaxy, and probably never need to buy another 360 game until fable 2 or Force Unleashed came out. Little did I know that after 8 days and 11 hours of gameplay, I would have beaten the so called "Fable in space" with out much effort.

And as much as I would enjoy playing through those FOUR missions again with a "completely" different character, I don't feeling like watching the screen blink as I sell the 70000000 augmentations in that game.

The average RPG has 40 hours of gameplay.
The average non-RPG has 30.
Mass Effect, well, If I didn't play through those stupid sidequests like "get back black guys dead wife" then I could have beaten in in like... 9 hours.

And yes, I did like it, for the most part. and after playing GTAIV first, I did enjoy the gangster feeling of the first mission on the citadel. running around, shooting up a club, stopping some thugs from shanking Tali (only interesting character in the game), but seriously.

I spent those eight days engulfed in a great universe, putting aside sidequests, which I was saving for later. Little did I know that everytime I relode my file, I'll see Seren's geth form again and again and again.

And there are achievements that you Can earn by keeping each individual party member for the majority of the game. Well not only is beating the game not regarded as majority in any way, but I never saw a chance to kill Tali or Garrus or.... blue chick. So I beat the "majority" and technically earned like 9 Achievements that I never got.

I had more fun playing the geometry wars demo.

this would be a legit complaint if the sidequests in mass effect weren't pretty substantial compared to most other games, including fable (ESPECIALLY fable).  first of all, i RUSHED and beat the game in like 18, so if you beat it in 11, you REALLY fucking blew through it and i imagine did the absolute bare amount of content needed to complete the game, which is silly because most of the sidequests are more or less of the same level of quality as the main story.  but here's the funny thing: you act like you expected this to be some huge, expansive game, which it is, and yet you are complaining.  what did you expect?  EVERY rpg like this, the ones that keep you busy for a long time, don't do so with a ridiculously long main quest; they do it with a main quest and then a bunch of optional content.

i'm honestly not even sure what you're complaining about.  you say it was a TERRIBLE GAME when it's clearly not, you say it's too short when it's not short at all and you just chose to skip the majority of the content.  it's funny, because games like fable are comprised primarily of stupid, mindless sidequests; they have a main story which is relatively brief and then there's other shit to do too, which takes up more time. this is exactly what mass effect is, except the main story is longer, and the sidequests are more substantial.  i don't really know how you can say HEH FABLE IS GREAT and then dismiss mass effect when it uses the EXACT SAME MODEL, only better.

i'd have an easier time forming an argument if your post made sense, but honestly it is really meandering and i'm not even especially sure what you're talking about to begin with.  having played the game, it is EXACTLY what you said you wanted to do in the first sentence of your post, word for word.  just because it's technically possible to rush through the game, doing absolutely none of the surprisingly decent optional content, doesn't mean it's a good idea or that you can complain if you do, especially if you clearly wanted the game to be a longer, more expansive, exploratory experience.  i don't understand why, wanting the things you say you wanted, you chose to play the game the way you did when you easily could've gotten what you wanted out of it by taking your time and doing optional shit.

ps nobody in their right mind called it "fable in space" because fable fucking blows and no one would want to be associated with such a flop.

Fine, let me make a normal argument.
1. I'm not gay.
2. THe reason i'm mad is because I beat it fast. By skipping the sidequests, some of them. But waht really grinds my gears is that I can't continue playing with the same character in the SAME universe and thus complete the sidequests that I purposly put aside for that time.  So yes, this game was waht I expected, more or less, but once I beat the main story, I wanted to continue, not start over and do those same four missions and those same side quests.

hasn't like every game bioshock has ever made been like this???  i don't know how you didn't see it coming.  anyone who is smart just keeps multiple saves of a game so they can go back and do stuff after they beat it anyway.  i don't remember perfectly but i'm pretty sure you could still wander around the galaxy doing stuff right up until you got to the final encounter almost, so there's no reason you wouldn't just maintain a late-game save before you got to the point where you can't leave the giant space station anymore

but yeah what an awful game

Well ym friends are shit. "Fable in space" they said. "Oblivion on Hoth!"
Fuck them.

Yes, every game ever made has been like that. Escept fable. and oblivion. Plus, if you did not get the main point of my frustration, this was my first 360 purchase, so the only thing I know about Bioshock is probably a lie.

plus it says "open-ended"

oh, i'm sorry, i didn't mean to type bioshock.  i meant hasn't ever game BIOWARE ever made been like this.

also it IS open-ended.  not as open-ended as oblivion or anything but there are degrees to these things.

.... anyway... I found a funny glitch yesterday. The end.

It was fun. still is, especially after being cheated by BioWARE and your friends.