I watched this Friday. Definitely my favourite superhero movie I've ever seen, but it's still far from being my favourite.

I agree that Christian Bale was nothing special, but man.. Michael Cain, Aaron Eckhart, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman.. Am I missing anyone? They all did amazing in this movie and they were the true stars of this great movie.

Where is Robin, anyway? Are they just not including him because, well, he seems kinda lame to me (only having a small recollection of the last series of movies, I may be wrong), or is there an actual reason from the comics?

Because Robin is stupid and no one likes him.

Yeah, Robin is retarded and he would definitely ruin the atmosphere that the director (I forget his name) has going with these new Batman movies.

I would not be opposed to a new Batgirl though! 

I thought this movie was great for the listed reasons in the... 8 previous pages XD.

One thing though, wouldn't you agree that they sort of made the joker's plans a little too farfetched? Like I know Joker is supposed to be a step ahead of batman. Infact, when I think of anything batman I always remember joker darn right beating batman until the very end. But still, this movie made joker seem like some unstoppable force.

I thinked the played they "Oh, it's Joker he is meant to outsmart batman too much".

I thought this movie was great for the listed reasons in the... 8 previous pages XD.

One thing though, wouldn't you agree that they sort of made the joker's plans a little too farfetched? Like I know Joker is supposed to be a step ahead of batman. Infact, when I think of anything batman I always remember joker darn right beating batman until the very end. But still, this movie made joker seem like some unstoppable force.

I thinked the played they "Oh, it's Joker he is meant to outsmart batman too much".

About The Joker's plans: The film takes place 6 months or something after the first film. At the end of Batman Begins we learn that The Joker is around and doing some bad stuff but no one really cares. At the beginning of The Dark Knight they act as if he is just another common criminal ("he can wait" as Batman suggests). I'd like to think that The Joker used these 6 months to carefully plan the events that takes place in the second film.

He has multiple coins tho, so if I'm thinking of the right scene, he was using a normal coin.

I dunno, I think he always used his father's lucky coin. after the accident one side gets charred so he uses that side as tails

Yeah he definitely was using the double-sided one. He wouldn't actually do it, at that point at least!

Did any of you guys like this a lot more then Batman Begins? For some reason I found Begins to be a bit on the boring side. But this movie kicks so much ass, it's after watching it again become a favorite.

Did any of you guys like this a lot more then Batman Begins? For some reason I found Begins to be a bit on the boring side. But this movie kicks so much ass, it's after watching it again become a favorite.

Most of us.

I dunno, I like Robin. He brings out another side of Batman. True, he wasn't portrayed very well in the previous movies, but he's a pretty awesome character even still. And knowing the first Boy Wonder's fate, kind of adds something to what could even happen in his first movie. Plus he's got all those great zingers that Batman is too stoic to say. lol

Robin is invariably a horrible little faggot

Did any of you guys like this a lot more then Batman Begins? For some reason I found Begins to be a bit on the boring side. But this movie kicks so much ass, it's after watching it again become a favorite.

I wouldn't say a lot more, but I thought it was a bit better. I have a pretty high opinion of Begins though - since I don't read comics/know anything about the universes bar the barest details the origin stories are always interesting to me. Begins basically made me realise that comic book films could actually be really good.

next step: do the same for Video Game flicks.

Where is Robin, anyway? Are they just not including him because, well, he seems kinda lame to me (only having a small recollection of the last series of movies, I may be wrong), or is there an actual reason from the comics?

Bale said he's out if they bring in Robin.

next step: do the same for Video Game flicks.

this is probably never happening. atleast comic books have some semblance of a story and in some cases really good stories and stuff. video games on the other hand, no matter how good the story, are based upon playing the video game first and foremost and then story. even then, most popular games would most likely end up being shit on the big screen. You probably saw how the Final Fantasy movies turned out and at best they were movies to just sit there, turn you brain off, and watch cloud ride around in motorcycles and fight bahamut.

this is probably never happening. atleast comic books have some semblance of a story and in some cases really good stories and stuff. video games on the other hand, no matter how good the story, are based upon playing the video game first and foremost and then story. even then, most popular games would most likely end up being shit on the big screen. You probably saw how the Final Fantasy movies turned out and at best they were movies to just sit there, turn you brain off, and watch cloud ride around in motorcycles and fight bahamut.

Never say never. Comics have been around nearly 100 years. When video games have been around for as long perhaps we'll finally see some good game movies. Of course game stories will have to improve like comic book stories have improved before that.

Yeah, I just watched this and liked it a lot, although I don't really have anything to say that hasn't been brought up already: Heath Ledger great, Aaron Eckhart underrated, disguise voice annoying, etc. The Hong Kong bit seemed a bit pointless, though... I mean, I guess it was meant to show that Batman has no limits or whatever, but it still felt a little jarring to me. I guess it was beause Gotham itself played a pretty big part in what was going on and wasn't just a backround setting, so suddenly shifting the focus to the other side of the world for ten minutes seemed like a pretty odd thing to do.

They should make PONG the movie. I bet it would be good.

I agree with Catamites. The first one was all about that ninja jazz, and it spent a lot of time in that icy tundra. Then it gave us the various areas of Gotham to gaze at; the Narrows, the Batcave, Wayne Manor, and the train. It had 'locations' that were easily definied, right. Then in Dark Knight, it was just... they're in a city, or a big room.