thats a good reply to a mod.

Yeah well if he can be rude to me I don't see what should stop me. Anyway we all now how these topics go down - people start bitching at each other, neither side gives, topic gets locked. I don't know maybe I am just irritable right now but I don't really feel like dealing with condescending people on the internet.

I actually don't think she's exaggerating (pandas just a jerk heh) but dramatizing is almost impossible not to do when you talk about this kind of shit and that actually makes it WORSE because then you are hyping up your past or whatever.

no. this is the sort of thing you ABSOLUTELY keep private and with a few people. this is not like saying "yeah I had a drinking problem a few years ago" off hand during another conversation. this is deliberately informing a group of strangers about shit they had nothing to do with and quite frankly could not care about. and don't lie to me, you really don't actually care about this. it was shit that happened years ago. if she was saying NOW or if Strangeluv said his father beat him NOW, you would, but this is all after the fact. thus it is the definition of attention whoring; saying shit just for sympathy from others.

nope i dont care. wow howd you do that

topics like this are attention whoring, sorry. psychologically and socially they are also poor choices to make, because believe it or not, some things really should just remain between you and those close to you.

man even if it is a little attention whoring, what motivates you to come in here and post NO YOU CAN'T DO THIS. this shit really happened to these people, they're kinda entitled to post it if they want! this isn't like some trite wackfiend shit, these things kinda matter to a person

so you're down to the argument that it's psychologically unhealthy

basically everyone is viewing this as unburdening but in reality it's nothing! we don't know you well enough for it to be a burden! that's kind of the big deal if your argument is how healthy it is.

telling strangers online really personal shit!=deep psychological cleansing.

what are you talking about, not knowing us well enough? like I mentioned before, there's a type of therapy where you just tell the psychologist everything that happened to you, and all he does is listen. He doesn't offer any insight or anything. and yeah, it's just as effective as other types of therapy! you don't know the psychologist, and that's one reason why it works. the psychologist isn't real outside of the clinic in the same way you people aren't real outside my computer. only the psychologist has to be unconditionally supportive, so I guess that's the major difference here. the other difference is that this uncontrolled, anyone can read it and possibly use it against you. unless you're like me, no one knows who GW RENDER is irl, in which case this is probably just as safe as any place. like I said it's a bit different with mkk, she said she uses that name everywhere so I dunno if she wants like kids at her school potentially reading it

kinda weird that you'd make this argument though because I think everyone here knew STEEL WENT THROUGH SOME HARD SHIT before this topic. not the precise details, but stuff like your dad died when you were young, your widow mom, problems in court with your ex, etc. were you trying to look tough when you put that stuff out on the net or did you just post it because the internet also works as a nice outlet?

Jesus Christ, mkkmypet, I am sorry I ever said anything bad to you, seriously. That is some really fucked up shit and it is incredible that you just TOOK IT LIKE IT'S NOTHING AGH

EDIT: I am preparing a really long post with details from the very first memory of my life, I hope that some of you that have a PHD in psychology will be able to examine them and create medical breakthroughs

i dont care if people swear at each other, this is a good debate i like it

e-confession sites are apparently all the rage these days (this is what the cool kids told me). i don't really see how this is too much different than that other than the fact there is a discussion. my only actual issue with this has nothing to do with the content itself, but what if people who probably shouldn't read this stuff (ie. who is close to the person who wrote STUFF) stumble upon this? it could create real problems maybe???

do you really care, though?  i mean it is easy to think and even know that these things or sad or tragic or whatever, but it's another thing entirely to FEEL it in you.  i don't think it's so easy to just care about a bunch of random people on the internet.  they're still PEOPLE and i know this, but there's a certain undeniable disconnect that happens when you cannot see a person or even hear their voice.  no one here is any more than words on a screen and occasionally a face to go with those words.  it's sort of different if you are CLOSE NETPALS but that's not really the case here.  also, i don't think anyone in this topic has been like NOOO STOP YOU CANT!  mostly it has been questioning why.

anyway, i don't think you can necessarily draw a complete parallel between this and that particular type of psychology for that exact reason.  the interaction between two people is totally different in person than it is on the internet.  yeah, i agree there can be relief to be found in opening up to a complete stranger in life who doesn't sympathize or judge or advise or even say anything, just listens.  but saying those words, having them come out of your mouth and being able to hear the sound of them, and looking at the person and seeing their face and knowing that they are there, listening... i think it is different from just writing up a post.  i think this because i've experienced that type of cathartic effect when opening up to someone i don't really know very well at all and it's just not the same when you do it on a gaming forum of all places.  so yeah i guess the idea is the same but i think the setting/context has a huge impact on the actual effect.

yeah I'll definitely agree that this isn't nearly as good! but it's still something imo and it doesn't cost anything.

it depends on the person whether or not I care. if like idk bunsen came in here and started telling about some really sad shit I'd be like "oh well that sucks dude" but you're right, it wouldn't really effect me. I don't know strangeluv much at all but I know he's a generally cool guy and this is kinda like getting to know him in a way. mkkmypet is like gw's LIL SIS and while we all make fun of her sometimes personally it's hard for me not to care if something like this happened to her

panda why are you a huge dick


anyway i am dissappointed with the people here that say HEH TEENAGE GILS TEND TO LIE ABOUT RAPE, that is pretty fucked up for obvious reasons

also, i think rape is pretty bad and it is in the same level of BAD as cancer. and anyway, everybody knows the TRAGIC LIFE of steel because although he didnt post in gw about all that shit all GW read his livejournal anyway so its kinda the same

don't compare rape to a disease bro, no one cancers you

I guess he posted it on lj first I didn't read it, just heard about in bits and pieces posted around here and in passing on his lj back when I had one. kinda wish I didn't bring it up though because it's pretty inconsequential, Just Let The People Post

he rape breaks down people dude. its pretty bad, like probably one of the worst things someone can do to you

I have to reply to this and just say no.

no. this is the sort of thing you ABSOLUTELY keep private and with a few people. this is not like saying "yeah I had a drinking problem a few years ago" off hand during another conversation. this is deliberately informing a group of strangers about shit they had nothing to do with and quite frankly could not care about. and don't lie to me, you really don't actually care about this. it was shit that happened years ago. if she was saying NOW or if Strangeluv said his father beat him NOW, you would, but this is all after the fact. thus it is the definition of attention whoring; saying shit just for sympathy from others.

What is this thing about certain things should ALWAYS be kept private?
There's a norm for that? I am not aware of it.
Strangeluv is the owner of his privacy, it is up to him whether he wants to let things out or not, NOT YOU SIRRRRRR.
You don't want to listen what he has to say, get the fuck out of here then.
I don't have a single problem with him dElIbErAtElY opening himself up. I mean.. why the fuck should I? Is it of my concern? No it isn't. Does it involve me in any manner? No it doesn't. Does it leave an inmoral message or such? Nope.
Maybe because it adds to nothing, but nothing here adds to anything so what are you talking about.

And this I WANNER YOU SYMPATHY bizniz.. do you.. REALLY CARE!??!? !? ? !!!  !?  !
Besides I read Strangeluv's story and my reaction wasn't sympathing, it was more like "well look at that!" and then just look on some other topic.
Your arm waving declarations of discomfort are pointless.

this bizarre concept everyone has that all private matters must become public and therefore magically tolerable is antithetical to the entire school of psychology. of course people should acknowledge their problems and horrible things that happened in their past. everyone here knows my father died when I was very young. but do you know how? do you know what type of cancer (yep, cancer) it was? no. it's because I deal with the details in private and you just know "hey, he had a hard time once". that's the NORMAL thing to do.

What?
You decided to not tell us what type of cancer he had and such. PERFECT! That's quite fine.
Y'know why? Because you just decided not to tell us, because you want that confined to your privacy.
Strangeluv decided to tell us these things. IT IS JUST AS FINE GETIT.
Both are just as normal, man man man.
I could also ask you what the HECK the word "normal" means, because I don't understand that word I am very stupid peoples. (I think... I just think I must not be normal I listen to Minutemen, nobody I know listens to Minutemen.)

topics like this are attention whoring, sorry. psychologically and socially they are also poor choices to make, because believe it or not, some things really should just remain between you and those close to you.

Except that's not up to you to decide but to the person owner of these private things.

basically everyone is viewing this as unburdening but in reality it's nothing! we don't know you well enough for it to be a burden! that's kind of the big deal if your argument is how healthy it is.

I wasn't supposing Strangeluv's story was meant to be some sort of burden. To me it was just something I read while eating popcorns.

telling strangers online really personal shit!=deep psychological cleansing.

Telling personal shit to people you trust is therapeutically good. That's out of discussion. Doing this stuff can even help you avoid illness, like cancer, or motor neurone disease (which my uncle has).
As for telling to online strangers, as long as you are comfortable telling this shit it is motherfucking alright. I dunno how good it is as psychological cleansing, maybe it is just as deep as hey bucko check this scar I had it while fighting sharks in the ocean. Maybe there's a minor sense of release, relief.
But ULTIMATELY, I don't care. And I'm OK with this thread.

shepperd what the fuck are you talking about. steel never said NO YOU CAN'T POST THIS I WON'T LET YOU, he just said he thought it was stupid and attention whoring.

the rest of your post is pretty crazy and i don't really understand what you're trying to say!

ok to everyone posting:

please tell me the difference between this and just wearing a sign in the street saying I HAVE PROBLEMS with a bulleted list.

or just bending over in the street saying EVERYONE LOOK AT ME.

ps

i think we all BELIEVE her, the issue is just that telling your life story in such a way implies that your motives are something other than emotional release.

read this a million times maybe.

shepperd what the fuck are you talking about. steel never said NO YOU CAN'T POST THIS I WON'T LET YOU, he just said he thought it was stupid and attention whoring.

I have this very clear, and my post addresses those issues

the rest of your post is pretty crazy and i don't really understand what you're trying to say!

to make it breif: Steel is upset about stupid and pointless things. My Advice: stop caring.

ok to everyone posting:

please tell me the difference between this and just wearing a sign in the street saying I HAVE PROBLEMS with a bulleted list.

or just bending over in the street saying EVERYONE LOOK AT ME.

the substance