man i just got around to watching that trailer and i sincerely hope the game is even close to being as funny as it was.  i'd play it if the same guys made both!

it's pretty sad when the only thing nintendo's fans ever want to see are more horrible super mario or zelda games.

semper ps3

Haha well, Wii seriously has nothing good going for it right now and Mario and Zelda have always been Nintendo's best games so yeah. And Nintendo has usually made the best games for their own consoles. I don't seriously get how Wii is selling so well given how horrible its library of games is. All we get are these shitty wii fitnesses and sports and whatever which are apparently meant to appeal to non gamers. I don't really like this new trend! It's also funny how there still hasn't been a real game which uses Wiimote well. Or maybe Zack & Wiki but I haven't played it yet. People said this before Wii was released but it has really become one huge gimmick.

Wii is such a huge letdown, I don't understand how Nintendo's fans cannot see how utterly disappointing it has been so far even if it sells well.

Also, why do you say Mario and Zelda are horrible? Mario Galaxy is easily one of the best platformers ever and Zelda is definitely one of the better videogame series. I'm really looking forward to Wii's own Zelda because I'm hoping it will be at least something a bit different. And even though Twilight Princess didn't really do anything new (those secret skills were a nice addition though) and followed the same GO TO DUNGEONS GET MASTER SWORD GO TO MORE DUNGEONS formula, it was still really good.

well imo aside from that one for the gba that was kind of cool zelda has been pretty stale for a long time now!  i wouldn't say it's anything above mediocre.  also i've never played mario galaxy but most mario games tend to be pretty dumb since it's one of those series that's sort of flooded the market with all the games nintendo makes out of him!

Yeah I know, Zelda is really stale. I'm pretty sure every single Zelda game has followed the same formula since Link to the Past. The gameplay has remained nearly identical in every game in the series. It hasn't bothered me too much since they release Zelda once in two or three years and they usually come up with some new ideas which make new Zelda games feel a bit fresh. Majora's Mask is a great example, it used OoT's engine and was pretty identical as far as core gameplay is concerned but the game still felt different because the whole idea behind the game was so different, plus the mask system introduced some new gameplay elements which was cool. Wind Waker on the other hand was more of the same but at least the world made it feel pretty different. Twilight Princess is definitely closest to OoT. The Twilight World is pretty useless but playing as a wolf was pretty cool and the new skills added depth to the gameplay. Zelda series is seriously long overdue for a good skill system and even though Twilight Princess was a step in the right direction.

Anyway, even though it's stale, the thing about Zelda is that it's just so well made. It's really polished, gameplay is nearly flawless and the dungeons are usually varied and very well designed. Zelda games have great atmosphere and are fun to play because it's simple but varied enough. But even so, I would definitely want to see Nintendo doing something new with Zelda because I think it could definitely be improved still. They should get rid of the dungeon formula and try to fit them in the actual game world, add a good skill system, maybe for once write a story which is actually interesting and get rid of silent hero, plus introduce some new villains.

You know, all of Nintendo's series are really stale. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Super Smash, you name it. They all follow the same formula which was introduced god knows how many years ago. You should still play Mario Galaxy though. The gameplay is pretty identical to other Mario games but the whole MARIO IN SPACE deal and gravity adds more to it and makes it really fun and the level design is seriously fantastic! And while other 3D Mario games have been about exploring huge 3D levels, Mario Galaxy is much more linear and focused. The levels change depending on what mission you play and it's really well done. I'm not one to hype Nintendo's games and Sunshine wasn't that great but Mario Galaxy is easily one of the best platformers I have played.

idk i just find zelda games boring because it generally feels like i am playing the same game over and over.  the gist of the story, the items, the dungeons, the bosses, it's all basically the same game.  i liked the one for the gba because different items at least brought a little variation but aside from that (keep in mind i never played majora's mask!) i usually do not enjoy them much.  the dungeons are well PLANNED but i think the difficulty is frequently very off, as it alternates between stuff that's not challenging at all and ridiculous cockblocks.  i think if the difficulty was better and if they revamped the combat so that it was more than HAMMER A and maybe had some skills like you said, and tossed out the old and boring items (hookshot!!!) then i'd be more into it, because on a fundamental level i am at least open to adventure games.

anyway, i've never gotten into super smash brothers, but i think mario/metroid have evolved a decent amount over the years.  compared to them, zelda seems much worse when it comes to lack of evolution!  like metroid and mario both gained a lot, i felt, when going from 2d to 3d, while zelda just felt like it was MORE ZELDA but in 3d now instead.  maybe it's just me but it is one of those series where i start to play the games because i think i'll enjoy them, and end up being really horrendously bored 80% of the time i'm playing it.

also i typically enjoy mario platformers, i just meant more along the lines of MARIO GOES FISHING et al.  i'd play it but i don't own a wii so!