News Another taser death :( (Read 2944 times)

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Believe it or not, the victim this time is a BLACK man (how could this happen????????)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/22/taser.death/index.html



[blockquote] Williams, who ruled Pikes' death a homicide in June after extensive study, said Nugent fired his Taser at Pikes six times in less than three minutes -- shots recorded by a computer chip in the weapon's handle. Then officers put Pikes in the back of a cruiser and drove him to their police station -- where Nugent fired a seventh shot, directly against Pikes' chest.

"After he was given that drive stun to the chest, he was pulled out of the car onto the concrete, " Williams told CNN. "He was electroshocked two more times, which two officers noted that he had no neuromuscular response to those last two 50,000-volt electroshocks."

Williams said he had two nationally known forensic pathologists, including former New York city medical examiner Michael Baden, review the case before issuing his conclusions. He said it's possible Nugent was shocking a dead man the last two times he pulled the trigger.[/blockquote]


I don't know what kind of training these police officers receive in "proper taser handling" but it definitely isn't sufficient (assuming tasers are even necessary in the first place). What kind of justification is there in tasing someone 9 times? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that anyone who has been shot 6 times (or once) with this thing is not going to do anything to provoke a consequent tase.

I guess he's just the unruly black guy exception lol
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this is disgusting, how are people defending this guy. he's like one of those electroshock fetish sadists or something

seriously DOING WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO is such bullshit. I dunno what to say, I just I hope the guy gets ruled guilty of homicide.
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"He done what he thought he was trained to do to bring that subject into custody. At some point, something happened with his body that caused him to go into cardiac arrest or whatever."

I love how the police chief sort of implies that it's the victim's fault for dying.  STUPID NIGGAR SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THE SHOCK BETTER.

But yeah, seven times with a taser definitely seems like excessive force to me.  It sucks that these rednecks keep buying them to make their job easier and end up turning their potential prisoners into dead men right there on the street. 
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Noticed this in the comments:

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Great article, but you failed to mention a couple of things.

The arresting officer, Nugent, was the precincts most aggressive Taser user, based on records showing that Nugent used the Taser more than any other officer in that force.

Also, Nugent tried to explain the death by saying that Pikes told Nugent that Pikes was high on PCP and crack cocaine and also had asthma. When the coroner reported his findings, he found no drugs in Pikes system and also reported that Pikes did not have asthma.
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I thought this was about the taser death in Winnipeg today... Link

...but the one in this thread is much more interesting.

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can tasers cause sterility
Thus is fucked up. Maybe tasers should be made a little more NONLETHAL?
Maybe...... maybe cops should just learn not to go trigger happy with a fucking Thor-in-a-pocket.
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"The only thing he could have done other than to say, 'OK, we're going to let you go' is to beat him or Tase him. He did the right thing," Terrell said.
what the fuck
is this lawyer being deliberately stupid in the hopes nobody will notice or something because he has no defense?
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i beat the shit out of people because they leave me no choice either what is your point mister bibelbasher
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I'm pretty sure a taser is meant to bring someone down after ONE SHOCK if so what that cop committed was fucking murder and not any sort of accident.
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Yeah the taser is usually supposed to be a once and done deal, although maybe twice or three times is within reason, but this is definitely not within reason
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One of the fundamental properties of weapons is that they will be abused. That's why we need to keep our weapon usage to a minimum. Why do the police have these deadly things, anyway? The rest of the world seems to be doing just fine without them.
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These deaths are becoming more and more publicized after that somewhat recent video of the man being tasered to death in an airport... people are now only realizing that electric shock can be harmful??

Tasers are mean to subdue... not to send a warning. People should be thinking more when they are looking at a response to any unruly behaviour. No more shoot first ask questions later routine... some people have ticks that they can't control like tourettes; can you honestly be sure when they seem unruly that they are not just medically unable to respond correctly because thier brain sends different pulses than yours would?
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I think I recall reading in another article about this that the last two of the tazings were administered after the victim had fallen unconscious on the ground.
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I think I recall reading in another article about this that the last two of the tazings were administered after the victim had fallen unconscious on the ground.
yeah that's in this one too, they said he was PROBABLY DEAD by this point. at least the last three were after he was already handcuffed. he tased him inside the police cruiser and then apparently DRAGGED him out of the cruiser just to tase him twice more. there is no explanation for this!
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man every time i see this BLACK GUY KILLED BY WHITE COPS (presumably for being too black) i get filled with this righteous anger and think i hate cops, but really i guess i just hate sleazy southern white cops!  this is pretty disgusting and that sounds really hollow to me because everyone always says it, but i really don't know how to articulate myself besides saying i am disgusted.
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ahaha man this article is just priceless

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"Nugent's lawyer, Phillip Terrell, said his client followed proper procedure to subdue a man who outweighed him by 100 pounds. But Williams said Pikes was already handcuffed and on the ground when first hit with the Taser, after the 247-pound suspect was slow to follow police orders to get up.

really???  i didn't know it was proper procedure to subdue/cuff suspects and then TASER THEM TO DEATH when they are no threat whatsoever.  there's just like literally no reason to taser someone who has already been cuffed more than maybe once if he is just resisting way too much to handle still, but man i don't even think you CAN resist after being tasered like 2-3 times, so those other six shots are just like what the fuck.   fkjdfkdj fucking cops.

also this:

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But Winnfield police Lt. Chuck Curry said race "isn't an issue at all" in the matter.

"This has come down to a police officer that was trying to apprehend a suspect that they had warrants for," he said. "He done what he thought he was trained to do to bring that subject into custody. At some point, something happened with his body that caused him to go into cardiac arrest or whatever."

jesus christ i don't know whether to laugh or yell at my monitor.  i guess they all think they are trained to kill black dudes, and even though i am joking i sort of suspect they probably do feel that CLOBBER ALL JAMALS is an unspoken part of their duty.  i love how he just says that AT SOME POINT SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH HIS BODY like it could have been anything other than being tasered nine times.  man this kind of shit makes me want to hit someone.
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yeah part of what makes me so angry is that this cop probably wont feel much remorse because every white trash redneck will tell him good job.
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i don't even think you CAN resist after being tasered like 2-3 times, so those other six shots are just like what the fuck.   fkjdfkdj fucking cops.


I bet the guy was having a seizure or something and they were like, "W..WE GOTTA STOP EM FROM MOVIN TZZZZZZSSTT!"
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Have they given every fucking slackjawed american cop TASERS now?

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