Topic: you guys never talk about what I like (Read 761 times)

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I'm just putting out a line here and wondering if anyone is into the same kind of music I am. I am pretty into hardcore punk, stuff like A Wilhelm Scream, Alexisonfire, Propaghandi, etc. The thing is though, hardcore punk walks a fine line: bands like Protest the Hero and Dillenger Escape Plan getting too close to "wall of nearly-senseless noise" for me to enjoy it.  At the other end, bands like Rise Against and Strike Anywhere are sometimes too emotional for me to be able to really feel like the music rocking hard enough to satisfy. What I like would then be more melodic hardcore, I suppose.

A Wilhelm Scream is probably my favourite band of the last 10 years for the simple fact that they rock indescribably hard. Rarely does thier music cross into the sort of emotional flimflam of the emo scenesters and more often talks about the usual punk ideologies of how to fuck things up for those who are so proud as think they are above you or that there is room for improvement anywere in society. Both Mute Print and Ruiner are packed with enough shit to make your face melt. There have been bands in the past that I think wished they could've rock this hard, but it wasn't invented yet. Whenever I listen intently, I am always pleasantly surprised by unexpected structures, those little eclectic trills or cutting hammer-ons that sneak into them. I've not bought Career Suicide but if the rest of the tracks are as well built as "5 to 9" then I will probably never want to buy another album again. I'm going to go ount and get it tomorrow, I'll let you guys know what I think. With each new album, I hear more and more of a sweet, progressive freedom in thier music, and each time it cuts deeper and rocks harder than the time before.

A Wilhelm Scream's "5 to 9" (cool video too)

"I Wipe My Ass With Showbiz" (funny intro)

Alexisonfire is more melodic, with frontman Dallas Green's honey voice raking in the benjamins on the side, but the raw sinwaves of energy that pour out of the high-crunch thick-tempo licks in Watch Out! and the self-titled album (especially things like "Polaroids of Polarbears" and "Counterparts and Number Them") sound like seraphim to me. You've probably all heard it by now, but just because its six years old doesn't mean it stopped being awesome. Thier Moneen-Switcheroo is probalby one of my favourite albums, "Charlie Sheen VS Henry Rollins" is such a killer track, Moneen's rendition of "Accidents" or the mix "Bleed and Blister" just make me melt. I'm not really sure if I liked where Crisis was going, somewhere away from the binaries of foundational punk rythms and cooling melodies that existed in the first two albums (ie the single "This Could be Anywere in the World"), but I still think it keeps enough to there initial sound for me to enjoy it (especially "We Are The Sound", which I think is really killer).

Alexisonfire's "Waterwings (and other poolside fashion fauxpas)"

What I like about these bands is that they are real. There is no dressing up or putting on "the image" for the label or for the sake of it, or because they are sullen and angsty, even. I really identify with the fact that they're middle class working guys who know how to rock out and made a living out of it. There is a distance from the emo/punk-lite scene in attitude and composition that really makes all the difference, but a focus on the musicality and clarity of melody that is lacking once you start to go more hardcore.

But yeah, thats just me. What do you think?
Last Edit: August 25, 2008, 06:48:17 am by Blitzen
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This stuff isn't punk.


*starts a multi-page argument about what is and isn't "punk"*
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Yeah lets not do that here.
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lol hes kinda right though
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Well, its what I call punk. Lets talk about the kind of music that I call punk. Genre theory is retarded anyways (especially where punk is concerned). So like I said lets stear clear of that and talk about the music.
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this is punk -> http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=6479.0
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that's nice rock but do you like bands like City of Caterpillar, Propaghandi, etc.?
EDIT CHANGED TOPIC TITLE BE HAPPY NOW LETS TALK ABOUT music I like so I can participarte I gave you a good starting point go go go.
Last Edit: August 25, 2008, 06:17:19 am by Blitzen
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hahaha so

if this is what you thought was punk, what did you think actual punk was?
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Punk is a very broad genre lets not get into semantics please.
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not quite as broad as you thought a few hours ago, apparently!
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Well the first band seems to have punk elements but WHO REALLY CARES. Whether he is right or wrong lets concentrate on the actual music rather than band genre debates. We always have these stupid arguments.
Last Edit: August 25, 2008, 08:19:59 am by Bakafura
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come on guys i was just kidding
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these aren't good bands is the problem.
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yeah bro this music is pretty fuckin bad
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Steel you should give us a post on how one objectively evaluates music and things like that.  I'm not even being sarcastic or anything.  You should do it.
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dillinger escape plan is good but thats about it
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Punk is a very broad genre lets not get into semantics please.

I wouldn't really call it a matter of semantics.

Let's discuss semantics.
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Steel you should give us a post on how one objectively evaluates music and things like that.  I'm not even being sarcastic or anything.  You should do it.

It's all relative bro everythings awesome and everything rules.
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Well, its what I call punk. Lets talk about the kind of music that I call punk. Genre theory is retarded anyways (especially where punk is concerned). So like I said lets stear clear of that and talk about the music.
HOW ABOUT YOU JUST GET A BIT MORE INFORMED RATHER THAN SUPPRESS YOUR OBVIOUS IGNORANCE ABOUT WHAT PUNK IS.
It is for your own friggin good, y'know. Because right now you just look stupid.

And I agree "Genre Theory" is useless when you are just listening to music, but it is useful when you TALK about music. But SONNY YOU OPENED YOUR MOUTH AND SAID THIS IS PUNK HERE and that was just the typical misuse of the word we hear everywhere.
Get to know what you're talking about.
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Quit shouting, shep, lets be civilized.
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