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Actually it leads to a problem concerning my internet connection settings/firewall. I have no either how to fix it even though I've set the firewall to allow Googleupdate.exe and I'm pretty sure I'm not using a proxy server.

Why don't you temporarily disable your firewall and install it, then reenable it? Have you tried that?
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Yeah. Didn't work.

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Installation failed. Ensure that your computer is connected to the Internet and that your firewall allows Googleupdate.exe to connect and then click again. Error code = 0x80072ee2

Also I turned AVG Resident Shield off too, no change.
Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 06:19:04 pm by Vale
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It hasn't crashed on me in YouTube once. o_O Sides, if it crashes it only crashes your tab, not the rest of them. = win.
That whole thing is bullshit btw. Using the latest flash player (irrelevant since chrome ships with flash too) trying to watch any flash video (idk about youtube, only tried to watch videos on vimeo and filefront) crashes out EVERY tab most times I try. The rest of the time the video and particularly sound is choppy. It's decided flash was broken and put a sad face on the player once after about 5 minutes of fully broken browser
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That whole thing is bullshit btw. Using the latest flash player (irrelevant since chrome ships with flash too) trying to watch any flash video (idk about youtube, only tried to watch videos on vimeo and filefront) crashes out EVERY tab most times I try. The rest of the time the video and particularly sound is choppy. It's decided flash was broken and put a sad face on the player once after about 5 minutes of fully broken browser

Nah, it's not bs (I've had a tab crash and the rest stayed already :p), it just sounds like it doesn't like your Flash player at all. You have a fully updated version, yea? (of Flash)
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HL why are so such a Google fanboy???

I think it's pretty solid for early beta. Sure, it could use more work, but that's the point of releasing it now. I might consider switching to it when it gets all my favorite Firefox add-ons. I'm not sure what to think of tab-as-process 'feature', it does consume a lot of memory (the fragmantation thing they mention is exaggerated) and my Firefox rarely crashes; I don't use 'web apps' anyway, so the restore feature of Firefox is often more than adequate. I like Chrome's user interface, but not its name...
Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 06:48:55 pm by RPG
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HL why are so such a Google fanboy???

I think it's pretty solid for early beta. Sure, it could use more work, but that's the point. I might consider switching to it when it gets all my favorite Firefox add-ons.

I'm not! I actually don't like Google and don't use any of their products (well I have a gamingw gmail from becoming staff and a couple gmails I use to get free trial accounts or something) except for Google Maps (i don't know another good map thing like it that can do directions, and I rarely use it), and Google itself (I like it's look more than the other sites.) Even then I rarely use google (I'm rarely searching for stuff), this is the first Google product I've actually genuinely LIKED in such a way that I will use it.

Mostly because there are just things I don't like about their products one way or the other.

But it's pretty silly to me to give up something that's faster and more secure because of habits and/or losing something that saves like 2 seconds of your time! I just don't get that. I know the browser has flaws and things I don't like either, but not being able to middle click scroll is not even close to being one of those things. Flaws in how websites render are way more important.
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To be honest I never use middle click scroll, and didn't know people did. I'd scroll the mouse wheel itself if I'm reading something (middle click scrolling is continuous and hurts my eyes), and use the scroll bar to get to some point in the page.
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Hey Vale, they say they have an installation log:

Follow the uninstall process to remove all relevant Google Chrome files on your computer. Then download the latest installation file from http://www.google.com/chrome and reinstall.
If you're still unable to install Google Chrome, delete the 'Chrome' folder from the following locations:
Windows XP: \Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\
Windows Vista: \Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Google\
If the above steps fail, please let us know so that we can investigate the problem. If possible, attach the installation log in your report. The installation log is located in the following folders on your computer:
Windows XP: \Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Temp\chrome_installer.log
Windows Vista: \Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Temp\chrome_installer.log

Whats it say?
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http://gizmodo.com/5044871/google-chrome-eula-claims-ownership-of-everything-you-create-on-chrome-from-blog-posts-to-emails

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11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.
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http://gizmodo.com/5044871/google-chrome-eula-claims-ownership-of-everything-you-create-on-chrome-from-blog-posts-to-emails


We already went over this but I'll just C&P my post and stuff I've said to it:

That blog is dumb.

Everything he says is wrong.

Read the line right after the bold part:
This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

Read the privacy policy:
http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/privacy.html

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The Google Privacy Policy describes how we treat personal information when you use Google's products and services, including information provided when you use Google Chrome. In addition, the following describes our privacy practices that are specific to Google Chrome. Google will notify you of any material changes to this policy, and you will always have the option to use the browser in a way that does not send any personal information to Google or to discontinue using it.
NOTE: this is actually better than most EULAs, a lot of them say they can change it without notice.

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You do not need to provide any personally identifying information in order to download and use Google Chrome. When you download Google Chrome or use it to contact Google’s servers, Google receives only standard log information including your machine’s IP address and one or more cookies. You can configure Google Chrome to not send cookies to Google or other sites as explained here.

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In addition, some Google Chrome features send limited additional information to Google:

* When you type URLs or queries in the address bar, the letters you type are sent to Google so the Suggest feature can automatically recommend terms or URLs you may be looking for. If you choose to share usage statistics with Google and you accept a suggested query or URL, Google Chrome will send that information to Google as well. You can disable this feature as explained here.
* If you navigate to a URL that does not exist, Google Chrome may send the URL to Google so we can help you find the URL you were looking for. You can disable this feature as explained here.
* Google Chrome's SafeBrowsing feature periodically contacts Google's servers to download the most recent list of known phishing and malware sites. In addition, when you visit a site that we think could be a phishing or malware site, your browser will send Google a hashed, partial copy of the site's URL so that we can send more information about the risky URL. Google cannot determine the real URL you are visiting from this information. More information about how this works is here.
* Your copy of Google Chrome includes one or more unique application numbers. These numbers and information about your installation of the browser (e.g., version number, language) will be sent to Google when you first install and use it and when Google Chrome automatically checks for updates. If you choose to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google, the browser will send us this information along with a unique application number as well. Crash reports can contain information from files, applications and services that were running at the time of a malfunction. We use crash reports to diagnose and try to fix any problems with the browser.
* You may choose Google as your search engine using Google Chrome, and you may also use Google Chrome to access other Google services such as Gmail. The Privacy Policies of Gmail or other services apply when you access them, no matter which browser you use. Using Google Chrome to connect to Google services will not cause Google to receive any special or additional personally identifying information about you.

The EULA is talking about taking the statistics you send them (which is how much you use each of the features, and improving the omnibox, and crash reports) and being allowed to use it as advertising for the browser. They aren't sent shit that you type except if the Omnibox encounters errors. You can disable sending ANYTHING to Google.

We went over this like a page or so back, but yeah.

They don't get any text you enter except for errors in the Omnibox, just to make the Omnibox better.

The guy is basically an idiot who didn't take time to read the privacy policy, the entire EULA, or even check the Options menu. It's just there for advertising/statistics on how their features (duplicate tabs, the task manager, etc) are being used.
Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 07:41:52 pm by HL
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sorry, I looked through the pages and didn't see that anyone had posted that OHWELL
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sorry, I looked through the pages and didn't see that anyone had posted that OHWELL

yea np someone brought it up, it wasn't the blog but it was EULA issues. that blog seems pretty heavy anti-google in general. Google is 100% not given anything that you type, except for Omnibox errors.

like if i type www.gaymingw.net itll be all ERRORS and then it'll send it to Google and they'll be like "you probably meant www.gamingw.net" so they can enhance the omnibox in that regard. That and no company would be stupid to force you to give them rights to everything you say.
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Seems okay so far, but nothing overly amazing. I miss the ad-blocking and mouse gestures of firefox, but on the whole, chrome seems fairly solid.

I'd probably rank it 2nd behind firefox and ahead of opera in terms of my browser preference.
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Nah, it's not bs (I've had a tab crash and the rest stayed already :p), it just sounds like it doesn't like your Flash player at all. You have a fully updated version, yea? (of Flash)
ye I redownloaded BUT considering the adobe installer just checks for opera, firefox and MSIE installations to add the plugin to I don't think it got updated prolly. Also I'm pretty sure flash got shipped with chrome so why don't dat version work/how do I update this properly
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I wouldn't care much about the EULA considering its released under an open source license and someone could just compile the code itself (which isn't subject to the EULA) and release it. In fact, you could find Chrome builds here if you're so worried about your rights.

Not saying it's right, but they've had EULAs like that for all their software and no one complained.
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But it's pretty silly to me to give up something that's faster and more secure because of habits and/or losing something that saves like 2 seconds of your time! I just don't get that. I know the browser has flaws and things I don't like either, but not being able to middle click scroll is not even close to being one of those things. Flaws in how websites render are way more important.
Well then I don't know who you're talking about because Opera is well-regarded as one of the most secure browsers, is fast and feature-rich, it has my IRC, e-mail, toggleable side panel, 20 speed dial slots which I control. These are all features not available in Chrome right now to my knowledge (which has been shit up until now... ignorance is blizz)! My nitpicks were annoyances which save me lots of time, hassle, and make my browsing experience more enjoyable.

Chrome will be awesome, but right now I'm not a fan and see no practical reason to use it over my already stable, fast, secure, feature-rich browser: Opera.

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To be honest I never use middle click scroll, and didn't know people did. I'd scroll the mouse wheel itself if I'm reading something (middle click scrolling is continuous and hurts my eyes), and use the scroll bar to get to some point in the page.
Then you've never had the need to - with only the mouse - get to the top or bottom of a page very quickly. That and it's great for setting a long article to slowly scroll down while you read it. I can't count on my fingers the amount of times I've done this. It makes great for reclining back in your chair while still having flexible control over the page.
Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 09:28:53 pm by Mama Luigi
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Then you've never had the need to - with only the mouse - get to the top or bottom of a page very quickly. That and it's great for setting a long article to slowly scroll down while you read it. I can't count on my fingers the amount of times I've done this. It makes great for reclining back in your chair while still having flexible control over the page.
the thing i hate about that argument is: if your hand is on your mouse, chances are it is also less than 8 inches away from the "page up, page down, home and end" keys. Pressing "End" is MUCH faster than clicking the middle mouse button (which is an event unto itself. I cannot see how anyone can use this "button" it is horrible and 1/3 of the time i dont click it right anyway because the wheel rolls or something stupid) and then moving the arrows to the bottom of the page.

so it is faster to just lift your hand and press "End" (which after a few hours of practice you can do with your eyes closed in a lightning fucking second.

I think the amount of apparent hostility in here is pretty hilarious from both sides. this browser has been released for a day now and people are like "wow this sucks [site] doesnt work, im using something else!" because you should be amazed at how fucking incredible this ALPHA 0.0.0.1 RELEASE or whatever the fuck this is.

I think HL is going a little overboard defending it, but he's totally right. All the complaints so far are extremely minor, and childish (BUT WHERE IS MY SPECIAL PAGE THAT SHOWS 20 PAGES AT ONCE?!!?) but I mean, this is an internet browser and so those claims are valid. if someone is saying they don't want to use chrome and will instead use Opera, hey man more power to you, opera is a fine browser and i commend you on using such a great product. if you are ditching chrome for ie6, we have a problem.

I think google chrome is really nice and I'm going to keep using it. Protection from memory leaks is a big deal for me, someone who leaves a single instance of firefox open for a week or more and has experienced memory leaks in firefox AND opera. I can't even count the times firefox has been open for a mere 24 hours and sitting with 1 tab at Google its using 300+ MB of memory. This sort of thing will NEVER HAPPEN with chrome, because each tab is its' own process. I love the idea and hope all the minor annoyances in chrome will go away with future releases.
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I think the amount of apparent hostility in here is pretty hilarious from both sides. this browser has been released for a day now and people are like "wow this sucks [site] doesnt work, im using something else!" because you should be amazed at how fucking incredible this ALPHA 0.0.0.1 RELEASE or whatever the fuck this is.
It's beta 0.2 but that whole thing is irrelevant because google keep their shit "beta" for like 5 years

some of the complaints aren't that minor either since flash support is SO FUCKED UP on this browser and it still crashes the whole browser not just one tab most times I've tried it with the latest version

I don't think anyone's being that hostile

edit: another complaint I got is I can't play wow with this open like I can firefox/opera because it keeps DOING THINGS without it telling me to and fucks my framerate into the ground
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It's beta 0.2 but that whole thing is irrelevant because google keep their shit "beta" for like 5 years

some of the complaints aren't that minor either since flash support is SO FUCKED UP on this browser and it still crashes the whole browser not just one tab most times I've tried it with the latest version

I don't think anyone's being that hostile

edit: another complaint I got is I can't play wow with this open like I can firefox/opera because it keeps DOING THINGS without it telling me to and fucks my framerate into the ground

you probably crashed the plugin. You should be able to just exit the plugin instead. (Shift+Esc)

Also I've never experienced this before. And yeah it's lacking a lot of stuff but it became public like 2 days ago, so give it some time.

Ironically I wanted to hate this browser when I first installed it.

Edit: HL do you know about everything you're talking about, or are you just reading off stuff from the fantabulous comic.
Edit2: Hey I just noticed tabs to the same site are interconected.
Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 10:04:37 pm by Nitro Crate