if you've ever met her fans its pretty easy to hate her. like, she's one of the most overrated musicians there is, and its solely because of a fanbase that goes COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE for anything tori omg toooori i love you XD!!!
also her vocal styling shit gets kind of annoying imho, I still think she says I NEED A JEW BOY during Blue Skies.
but yeah shes one of those artists I have a lot of trouble separating from the culture that surrounds her, and since its so incredibly disgusting (FAIRY GIRLS) yeah not a big fan I guess.
really like that song Seaside though.
yeah its not really fair to judge someone based on their stupid fanbase, though! i can see how that gets annoying, and i didn't know anything about her fans, although none of this really surprises me, but i don't think it's so difficult to distinguish between her and the fairy girls that like her. i don't think any artist really appreciates people judging them based on something so unrelated to their work.
also i like the QUAVERING VOICE shit, you know? like she is a good vocalist so i think it is less like this tiresome attempt to be original and more a legitimate stylistic thing, and on the whole it contributes to the sense that her music is weird as hell. plus she was IN BEFORE THE RUSH of unexceptional female singers, so i kind of give her a lot of credit for being a progenitor of that entire thing probably. it would be like lumping pavement in with all the random boring alt rock bands they inspired! i could see why you wouldnt be a fan of her voice though, or any of her shit. it is kind of separate from most other stuff i listen to.
anyway yeah you shouldnt judge her outside of her own context i think. like i maybe more than anyone am sick of uninspired female vocalists, and there's a slew of them around, but it's not so accurate to take a song from 1992 and sort of hold it up to the same standards. jamicus if your problem is how WISPY she is (was this even something women did in 92 or is this also more recent? i really don't know) then you still might like her. she tends to do it more in live songs, and there are quite a bit of songs like seaside where it is stronger and not wispy/quavery.
also yeah kate bush is exactly what i'm talking about when i say bad female vocalists. but all of those women usually have really uninteresting music, and if you take a song like caught a lite sneeze or blood roses it is a lot weirder/more interesting than LOOK HERE IS MY ACOUSTIC GUITAR i think.
also also i think that just because the lyrics are not as CLEARLY APPARENT as they are in seaside does not necessarily make them nonsensical. it is kind of a hazy line between stuff that's just sort of obtuse as hell but still understandable and stuff that only makes sense to whoever wrote it, but even as long as it makes sense to them, i wouldn't call it nonsensical. i think as long as you can glean even some sort of intent/emotion from them, if not a direct literal meaning, they're somewhat effective.
