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DOW dropped 679 points today (7.3%)
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aight im gonna preempt everyone and say you prolly got that someplace so before everyone asks JOE JOE WHERES MY SOCIALIST it might be good to just straight link it.
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DOW dropped 679 points today (7.3%)

news is saying it is turning into a full blown depression

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.
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aight im gonna preempt everyone and say you prolly got that someplace so before everyone asks JOE JOE WHERES MY SOCIALIST it might be good to just straight link it.
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I pulled out :(
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ugh I'm a little desperate for a socialist club here in oklahoma NEED TO MEET SOME COMRADES but seriously the closest thing we have here is fucking libertarian clubs. yesterday in law the class did an "analysis" of the debates by pointing out logical fallacies or some shit (obama exaggerates the economic crisis by saying it's the worst since the great depression?), and it somehow derailed into a discussion about unions and socialists. most people in the class are working class, so it's pretty remarkable when the only criticism of obama is that he's a socialist, or that unions are bad things that drive out of companies. actually, the conversation further derailed into a rant about taxes and hillbillies asking "what are we supposed to make everyone equal by taxing rich people more??? *toothless grin*")

actually, there was a group that formed a while ago at a campus a few hours from here, but this was the kind of thing said about it:

i want to live somewhere else
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I pulled out :(
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Bernie Bernanke's Bukkake 6.
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he's a socialist, or that unions are bad things that drive out of companies.

Thats not necessarily true. They work to gain their members increased salary, jobs, and benefits through political action, rallies, and through working with companies.

I'm in a pretty big union and its not that bad at all the only thing you've really got to worry about are other unions working for cheaper and foreign workers.
Last Edit: October 10, 2008, 05:35:37 pm by Coxswain
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Thats not necessarily true. They work to gain their members increased salary, jobs, and benefits through political action, rallies, and through working with companies.

I'm in a pretty big union and its not that bad at all the only thing you've really got to worry about are other unions working for cheaper and foreign workers.

typically unions don't try to undermine each other so other unions isn't really isn't anything you should worry about. What you should be worried about in a union is when the leadership is getting a little too 'close' with company management and when the company starts attempting to circumvent the union politically(through the support of anti-labor legislation) or through attempting to persuade members to dissolve the union in exchange for lucrative-sounding perks.

As corrupt and short-sighted as many unions are, I still think that they are worth universally supporting. Many people who have never been a part of a union may not understand just how valuable the gains of collective bargaining actually are: sick days, overtime, vacation, health benefits, etc. are all things that unions fought bitterly for and it seems like these days people take them for granted so that we're not even noticing them slip away from us. Working outside of union representation fucking sucks ass, you've got no protection from assholes in management, your ass can get fired for no reason, getting sick costs money, getting healthcare costs even more money, and don't get your hopes up about receiving too much for working overtime or holidays.
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Even though all of the dudes that head our union are Italian except one black guy I still trust them to a certain extent, even though just like politicians they're probably at least a LITTLE crooked. People keep saying they are ex mobsters or something like that but I think its just a stupid rumor for the most part.

I don't think we'll have a problem dissolving because ours is HUGE AS FUCK and has absorbed a bunch of unlicensed and even a few licensed unions and if we were to suddenly dissolve you'd see a bunch of senile, pissed off, old seadogs setting fire to a bunch of big houses.

And yeah, I like being able to call a union official on the phone or talk to my bosun (even though half of the bosuns I've worked with were shitty, sucked mate dick and didn't do their job right) if I'm having a problem with a captain thats being a slave to the mans.

Union work for the most part is pretty great though.
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i work at walmart. they crush unions with their smilie faces.

seriously at our job orientation we had to watch a 30 min video on the evils of labor unions
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Canada is nothing more than an extension of America, like a fast-food franchise - but it's also pretty safe. The Silly country is cold and damp most of the year- sort of like a large version of the U.K. Personally, I'd rather be surviving in the sunshine, on a beach, in a country that has NO military or particular axe to grind on the world stage...


Canada's not an extension of the U.S. We have our own government, culture, history, attitude, military, geography, spelling...It's like saying Ireland is an extension of Scotland.

Although yes, it is cold here for about 6 months of the year...but there are nice beaches in the summer where we can frolick and -in the north- swim...unfortunately a lot of our border lakes are polluted. *cough*




Anyway, I read up until about page 2 so this might have been said before, but my feeling is that for all of us who are saying at laest we don't live in the U.S...the U.S. economy is such a big part of the world economy that if it sinks, we're all going down in the whirlpool. It might not be as bad here but things are definitely going to take a downturn.

I don't know about other people, but it's been hell to get a job here, since our film industry is mostly dependent on U.S. companies coming up to save a buck on their production. There's less money to fund film, and with the conversion no one's coming up here, and name actors are taking smaller jobs. Granted the problems with SAG and the previous writers strike have a lot to do with this now so it's not entirely the economy.

I feel safe that at least I'm in university, don't have student loan, and the mortgage on my parents' house is paid off. But honestly, things are going to get bad for a lot of people, for a long time. I was reading the newspaper the other day and it said we're past the point of recession.
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wow. i never realized the significance of unions until now! idk, they just are not really discussed! but i get it.

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canada would suffer far more and much more quickly because it is the USA's largest trading partner and vice versa.
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unions used to be worthwile organizations a while back ago. now they are satisfied with helping our cop pals to find the wheareabouts of evil illegal immigrants and stopping strikes by patting the backs of bosses. unions dont inherently cause gains in the workplace, its the fact that in unions it is where generally militant workers congregate.
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Canada's not an extension of the U.S. We have our own government, culture, history, attitude, military, geography, spelling...It's like saying Ireland is an extension of Scotland.

Although yes, it is cold here for about 6 months of the year...but there are nice beaches in the summer where we can frolick and -in the north- swim...unfortunately a lot of our border lakes are polluted. *cough*

it was clearly a joke on the writer's part! although canada is very attached to the US economy which is what he was referring to.
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Thats right, and thanks to some agreements that were signed we can't stop sending crap your way unless you guys give the a-okay. So were bound by trade. I won't mind a depression so long as atleast Finland colapses so i can laugh at the economic "apocalypse".
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unions used to be worthwile organizations a while back ago. now they are satisfied with helping our cop pals to find the wheareabouts of evil illegal immigrants and stopping strikes by patting the backs of bosses. unions dont inherently cause gains in the workplace, its the fact that in unions it is where generally militant workers congregate.
they're certainly not the vehicle for a better tomorrow as they once were in the past(being one of the only places outside of churches where black and white people found common ground and brotherhood), but they're a lot better than nothing and should be supported.

the whole union response to the 'immigrant scare' is evidence of the incompetence of unions as being a form of revolutionary or politically progressive organization. The reaction isn't entirely unjustified but its a case of misplaced blame due to the lack of proper leadership.

regardless of how reactionary or corrupt they can be, they still provide a little bit of empowerment for members and a little bit of protection which can mean being able to stay in ones home this day and age. I've always appreciated the security I had when I had the opportunity to be in a union and I will never forget how fucking terrible it is to work for shitty people and getting fired("let go") over catching the flu because there was no representation.
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wait churches, what? churches are pretty heavily racially separated dogg.

unless you mean THE PAST again.
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