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yeah see i think you're putting your ideas of WHAT WARRANTS A LACK OF RESPECT into a situation where it is not actually the case.  like confusion//conflicted feelings/general unsureness of what the fuck she should or wants to do somehow equals THIS BICH DONT RESPECT ME i guess?
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tbh i dont really mind having sex/making out with someone engaged if i dont know the dude.


well then we have some pretty big differences in how we behave and respect others.
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yeah see i think you're putting your ideas of WHAT WARRANTS A LACK OF RESPECT into a situation where it is not actually the case.  like confusion//conflicted feelings/general unsureness of what the fuck she should or wants to do somehow equals THIS BICH DONT RESPECT ME i guess?

are you saying that it's not disrespectful to betray someone's trust in you?
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tbh i dont really mind having sex/making out with someone engaged if i dont know the dude.

Wow, you're pretty fucked up!
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yeah see i think you're putting your ideas of WHAT WARRANTS A LACK OF RESPECT into a situation where it is not actually the case.  like confusion//conflicted feelings/general unsureness of what the fuck she should or wants to do somehow equals THIS BICH DONT RESPECT ME i guess?

You're giving bitches way too much credit.
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well then we have some pretty big differences in how we behave and respect others.

of course. i wouldnt pistolwhip a guy if he inserted his dick in my gf. i would just get really mad about it and stop talking to her
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I think we've moved beyond that point, Marmot.
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of course. i wouldnt pistolwhip a guy if he inserted his dick in my gf. i would just get really mad about it and stop talking to her

it was a joke it was a joke it was a joke i don't even own a gun
Last Edit: October 12, 2008, 07:08:19 am by DietCoke
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Okay, first of all, if the relationship has degenerated to the point where I can't have a chat with my significant other over a major fundamental problem in the relationship in any capacity or medium, then the relationship is pretty much over because if that's the case I guess that would mean that said partner is dead or something.
man they are called communication problems and no i do not think it means the RELATIONSHIP IS DEAD.  people are unwilling to talk about that kind of stuff for a lot of reasons!  maybe they are dumb or maybe they are uncomfortable or maybe they know on some level that there are problems but think that by refusing to acknowledge them they are not real.  none of these things necessarily mean that the relationship is "pretty much over" dude but they are all very frequently reasons why people do not just sit down and talk shit out.

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And unless it's an abusive relationship, there's no such thing as 'messy to get out of'.
what???  yes there is what are you even talking about man.  serious relationships, especially ones where people live together, are kind of a pain in the ass to break up!  i don't mean messy like OH GOD WHYYY although i think that's a part of it, too; i mean that really it's kind of a lot of trouble to deal with putting a complete end to a long-standing, serious relationship, especially a marriage (and especially one with kids) and a lot of people do not do it based on that.  i have known people PERSONALLY who have said they would have gotten divorced (or gotten divorced sooner, usually) if it wasn't so goddamn stressful and ugly to end things.  it's a real deterrent!  you just kind of let it continue because yeah, it seems harder to stop it
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anyway, i have different moral priorities to be fair. i dont think its a horrible thing to do.  i guess its an arbitrary sentiment
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are you saying that it's not disrespectful to betray someone's trust in you?
only to an extent!  i'm saying i think you should be more understanding and less black and white THIS MAKES YOU A BADR PERSON about the reasons why people cheat on their partners.  i don't think a violation of trust is necessarily indicative of a person not respecting someone else, no.
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man they are called communication problems and no i do not think it means the RELATIONSHIP IS DEAD.  people are unwilling to talk about that kind of stuff for a lot of reasons!  maybe they are dumb or maybe they are uncomfortable or maybe they know on some level that there are problems but think that by refusing to acknowledge them they are not real.  none of these things necessarily mean that the relationship is "pretty much over" dude but they are all very frequently reasons why people do not just sit down and talk shit out.
what???  yes there is what are you even talking about man.  serious relationships, especially ones where people live together, are kind of a pain in the ass to break up!  i don't mean messy like OH GOD WHYYY although i think that's a part of it, too; i mean that really it's kind of a lot of trouble to deal with putting a complete end to a long-standing, serious relationship, especially a marriage (and especially one with kids) and a lot of people do not do it based on that.  i have known people PERSONALLY who have said they would have gotten divorced (or gotten divorced sooner, usually) if it wasn't so goddamn stressful and ugly to end things.  it's a real deterrent!  you just kind of let it continue because yeah, it seems harder to stop it

you're kind of making excuses for people who aren't mature enough to end a relationship when they should

this comes back to a lack of respect
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the internet is fullof................amoral nihilists. what will god say???????????????????
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i suppose i am but i think in practice there are a lot of things that impede the kind of "maturity" you're talking about that would dictate a person instead of being emotionally confused like PEOPLE TEND TO BE over things as hazy and complicated as going from one serious relationship to something new, would be totally 100% clear-headed and go HEY, HUSBAND--ITS OVER BYE and deal with the shitstorm that would cause.  i'm making excuses because people are flawed and i think you're holding them up to unrealistically high standards and ignoring actual circumstances where it's understandable and excusable to cheat.  i am willing to bet you do not do what you, as an intelligent, mature adult should do all the time either.  like i already said i didn't think it was ideal but i try to cut people a break when it comes to things like this that can be hard and confusing!
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man they are called communication problems and no i do not think it means the RELATIONSHIP IS DEAD.  people are unwilling to talk about that kind of stuff for a lot of reasons!  maybe they are dumb or maybe they are uncomfortable or maybe they know on some level that there are problems but think that by refusing to acknowledge them they are not real.  none of these things necessarily mean that the relationship is "pretty much over" dude but they are all very frequently reasons why people do not just sit down and talk shit out.

I guess this is where our own prorities differ, because if I was in a relationship where communication problems got in the way of bigger problems to the point where I'd fuck another chick, then yeah, the relationship is effectively over.

The day I (literally or figuratively) sit down with my girlfriend and say something like "Listen, I really don't feel like my needs are being met, etc" and she runs off covering her ears and screaming (or otherwise WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME), then yeah, I'm ending that shit. Easier said than done, but I will either ATTEMPT to solve the issue or end it before I fuck some other girl.

Like I see what you're saying but I do not tolerate that shit.

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what???  yes there is what are you even talking about man.  serious relationships, especially ones where people live together, are kind of a pain in the ass to break up!  i don't mean messy like OH GOD WHYYY although i think that's a part of it, too; i mean that really it's kind of a lot of trouble to deal with putting a complete end to a long-standing, serious relationship, especially a marriage (and especially one with kids) and a lot of people do not do it based on that.  i have known people PERSONALLY who have said they would have gotten divorced (or gotten divorced sooner, usually) if it wasn't so goddamn stressful and ugly to end things.  it's a real deterrent!  you just kind of let it continue because yeah, it seems harder to stop it

I just said that relationships where the couples live together is a notable exception. And yes, marriages are a big one as well.

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you're kind of making excuses for people who aren't mature enough to end a relationship when they should

this comes back to a lack of respect

Yeah this.
Last Edit: October 12, 2008, 07:16:05 am by Feldschlacht IV
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oh did you?  sorry if i missed it but yeah i dunno we're talking about serious relationships here which generally imply cohabitation (at least here they do) so i agree with you for the most part in ones not serious enough for them to not even have moved in together but then those aren't the type i'm really talking about
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dont do this NOTORIOUSMOG
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oh did you?  sorry if i missed it but yeah i dunno we're talking about serious relationships here which generally imply cohabitation (at least here they do) so i agree with you for the most part in ones not serious enough for them to not even have moved in together but then those aren't the type i'm really talking about

Well yes, I'll agree with you that in serious, serious relationships, shit can get hazy, but even then, it rarely has to come down to cheating. Like if the situation is so bad that you'll cheat and there's no way to sit down and discuss whatever issue(s) with your partner at all, then things have gotten REALLY REALLY REALLY bad and that raises an entire other set of questions (what the fuck were you two doing to get shit this bad).

And even then I don't agree or justify the whole "I got lonely/horny one night" shit. Fuck that noise.

I mean I'm not saying that cheaters are TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE people but they fucked up pretty bad!
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i dont like the accepted american relationship structure i hope my wife is cool with me swinging
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I just want to clarify that if your partner isn't fucking there there isn't anything to clarify.

thats how this work

young couple gets married, young male leaves, young female can't handle it and gets involved with someone else.

young male comes back from service to find out that young female doesn't want him anymore.

I've seen it too many goddamn times and it is so infuriating I've just had two cousins that did this and it really pisses me off because they don't know what they've gotten themselves into. I think you guys are forgetting that GUY BEING AWAY FOR SERVICE is a big part of this discussion!
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