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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#1 October 16, 2008, 08:36:09 pm

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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2961732&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Anthony_Davis
http://www.amnestyusa.org/troydavis
http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/troy-davis-finality-over-fairness/page.do?id=1011343

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Georgia is going to execute this guy based on eyewitness testimony from 9 people, 7 of which recanted. There was no physical evidence whatsoever- no gun, no prints, nothing.

Follow that Amnesty International link to get a form-generated fax. It goes to the Georgia Board of Pardon and Paroles, who has the power to stay the execution up until the moment it happens.

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In case you missed it, the US Supreme Court issued a stay of execution to decide whether or not they would hear his appeal. Today they decided not to hear it, which means there is no court in the world which can intervene in Troy's case.

The decision on whether or not to execute Troy Davis lies entirely with the Georgia Board of Pardon and Paroles.

please please please write letters and get as many people as you can involved in this

Amnesty is going to gather all the letters and deliver them to the Board at the same time, they're asking people not to contact the Governor or Attorney General, you can fax letters to the Atlanta Amnesty International office at 404-876-2276 or just use their links on this page to email/fax them directly from the website

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ase

#2 October 16, 2008, 08:51:54 pm

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well, this is pretty horrible if he's innocent. reminds me of how women in pseudo-theocratic Middle Eastern and African countries face similar situations where they're stoned to death for adultery or jailed/whipped for being raped

At first I thought you were talking about the nation of Georgia. However, since this is U.S. Georgia, I'm absolutely horrified! Why won't the Supreme Court grant an appeal or a re-trial?

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#3 October 16, 2008, 08:57:09 pm

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there's a lot to do in the supreme court; they dont see every case that comes to them. it's tragic but it happens, just to speed along decisions.

fyi before anyone gets a chance to say it: yes I'm aware this probably won't work. but damn if that man is going to die and I won't have tried to do even the smallest bit of worthless armchair activism I got asked to do.

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Farren

#4 October 16, 2008, 08:57:32 pm

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I read the wikipedia and it said that the event started when he and two friends beat the shit out of a homeless man and a cop got shot trying to break it up.

Whats this dudes story? Is there one?

I don't agree with him being executed but if he was willing to beat the shit out of a homeless man then that doesn't say much about his character.

Last Edit: October 16, 2008, 09:07:28 pm by Coxswain

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#5 October 16, 2008, 08:59:37 pm

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yeah the wiki sounds pretty damning. maybe like a civilized country you should just cut off his hand or something

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#6 October 16, 2008, 09:02:39 pm

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dude.

seven of the nine witnesses claiming he was beating up a homeless man RECANTED. some weren't even there. for all you know, the dude's friends were beating the homeless man up and he was like DUDES GET OFF HIM GET THE FUCK OFF HIM.

and besides yeah it's horrible to beat up a homeless guy, NO SHIT, but it's not something to kill a man for. in fact *gasp* many of us are against the death penalty in all cases.

don't be fucking ridiculous.

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Farren

#7 October 16, 2008, 09:07:04 pm

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I don't agree with him being executed but if he was willing to beat the shit out of a homeless man then that doesn't say much about his character.

I already filled out that email thing and sent it in saying I don't agree with it and he should get an appeal. Yes, I think its fucking stupid he isn't getting a fair trial. But I also don't like the fact that there isn't any information telling HIS STORY and WHAT HAPPENED!

If all I see is: "three dudes jumped a homeless man, who refused to give them a beer. One of which shot a cop" and there isn't ANYTHING telling the other side of the story that doesn't help his case does it? You'd think if this guy actually had a lawyer the other side would be in that wiki too.

I'm not being ridiculous, I just think its ridiculous that it seems pretty one-sided

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#8 October 16, 2008, 09:10:01 pm

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Listen up guys ok.

As steelio said seven of the nine witnesses recanted and many said the police tried to pressure them into it. Do you really think a man should be executed if there is in any way doubt of his guilt? We're not saying THROW OPEN THE PRISON DOOR AND LET HIM OUT WITHOUT A NEW TRIAL, we're saying do the fucking humane thing and don't let the state murder a man who is possibly innocent.

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#9 October 16, 2008, 09:10:21 pm

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Quote from: Coxswain on October 16, 2008, 09:07:04 pm

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I already filled out that email thing and sent it in saying I don't agree with it and he should get an appeal. Yes, I think its fucking stupid he isn't getting a fair trial. But I also don't like the fact that there isn't any information telling HIS STORY and WHAT HAPPENED!

If all I see is: "three dudes jumped a homeless man, who refused to give them a beer. One of which shot a cop" and there isn't ANYTHING telling the other side of the story that doesn't help his case does it? You'd think if this guy actually had a lawyer the other side would be in that wiki too.

I'm not being ridiculous, I just think its ridiculous that it seems pretty one-sided

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Farren

#10 October 16, 2008, 09:11:16 pm

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BOTH of you aren't fucking reading

NO ONE is saying he shouldn't get an appeal

THE INFORMATION GIVEN IS FUCKING ONE SIDED, SHIT

This is a link with troy talking

I still don't get why he doesn't tell straight out, his recollection of what happened

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#11 October 16, 2008, 09:11:39 pm

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Quote from: Coxswain on October 16, 2008, 09:11:16 pm

BOTH of you aren't fucking reading

NO ONE is saying he shouldn't get an appeal

THE INFORMATION GIVEN IS FUCKING ONE SIDED, SHIT

it's wikipedia

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Farren

#12 October 16, 2008, 09:17:40 pm

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Yeah and I'm looking around and I still don't see anything with him recalling what exactly happened, which is pretty stupid imo.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#13 October 16, 2008, 09:18:59 pm

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dude why does he have to tell anything? argh you're arguing such a bullshit point for some unfathomable reason.

COXSWAIN WHERE WERE YOU THAT NIGHT? OH YOU DONT REMEMBER? SUSPICIOUS. people who don't even have a murder weapon and seven of nine witnesses recant shouldn't face the death penalty.

also yeah its possible he WAS doing something less than savory that night; one of the witnesses that could have cleared him, for instance, was violating parole at the time. who gives a shit.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#14 October 16, 2008, 09:20:08 pm

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it's called pleading the fifth dude. quit trying to play devil's advocate for no reason! it's within his rights to not have to tell us what he was doing and it doesn't make it HMMM FISHY either.

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Farren

#15 October 16, 2008, 09:23:51 pm

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I do?

Like I said I agree 100% with what this topic is intentionally about, but you'd think if he was really innocent everyone would be hearing about this shit and his story would be all over the news and in books and all kinds of other shit.

So what he can't remember what exactly went on that night. He should be able to remember, WHETHER OR NOT HE KILLED SOMEONE!

Thats what I really don't get. He's been sitting in prison for like 20 years FOR MURDER and he's holding shit back and pleading the fifth? WHY? It doesn't make any sense at all.

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#16 October 16, 2008, 09:24:33 pm

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Execution is so terrible. There will always be miscarriage of justice, so there will always be cases like this one where it seems inconceivable that someone could get sentenced to the death penalty based on the flimsy evidence that exists.

It does not work and will not ever work.

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#17 October 16, 2008, 09:27:53 pm

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what the fuck is this. i just got back in from the pub so i can't handle this at the moment but crap i'm worried what the heck is happening

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HL

#18 October 16, 2008, 09:32:41 pm

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this is really terrible. sent an email, let's hope this goes well.

if this guy dies that'll be really terrible! i hate how none of the news seems to be covering this story either

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#19 October 16, 2008, 09:36:37 pm

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i don't want to turn this into a death penalty topic but i'm going to say the obvious in that this makes no sense at all and i am unsure how anyone could agree with this. i don't know why it's even legal to get the death penalty for a case with no physical evidence whatsoever (in other words, circumstantial evidence only) not to mention the case looks very shoddy.

do they have something in for this guy (some kind of corruption)? i can't see a reasonably intelligent person saying this man should be executed.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#20 October 16, 2008, 09:56:39 pm

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Quote from: Coxswain on October 16, 2008, 09:23:51 pm

I do?

Like I said I agree 100% with what this topic is intentionally about, but you'd think if he was really innocent everyone would be hearing about this shit and his story would be all over the news and in books and all kinds of other shit.

So what he can't remember what exactly went on that night. He should be able to remember, WHETHER OR NOT HE KILLED SOMEONE!

Thats what I really don't get. He's been sitting in prison for like 20 years FOR MURDER and he's holding shit back and pleading the fifth? WHY? It doesn't make any sense at all.

it sounds like his friend committed the murder from what the two other witnesses said. maybe he's got a ridiculous sense of NO SNITCHIN or he doesn't want to out his friend.

or the two more likely options, everyone's downplaying the fact he beat up a homeless guy because, well, that doesn't look good, so his side of the story isn't really a great thing to begin with and/or wikipedia just doesn't know what his side of the story is. this is often the case with...cases.

also if you really think INNOCENT MEN DONT DIE ahahahahahahahahahhaahahahaha dude just google the west memphis 3. just...just do it. I actually read every aspect of the case file in that case.

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