Beat Eye of the North:

Yeah man, kicked that Dragon's BUTT.

I'm adding a guide that kind of showcases all the 10 classes to the first post atm.

Someone was actually just convincing me to try this game an hour or two ago and it looks pretty neat, i was trying to buy nightfall but the site isn't letting me.

WAS IT ME!? =D You know it sucka.

I decided to start playing this game again as well! Need to save money and buy other stuff BAD, but I want the other expansions (just factions and nightfall), so right now only got prophecies.

WAS IT ME!? =D You know it sucka.

I decided to start playing this game again as well! Need to save money and buy other stuff BAD, but I want the other expansions (just factions and nightfall), so right now only got prophecies.

Awesome! Whats your IGN I'll add you to my friends list and we can party together sometimes. (its okay, like most of the people playing just have Prophecies)

My PvE character which I have not used in a looong while is Grogrog the Og I think. And my PvP warrior is Grogrog Gg I think.

Cool, added you to my friends list if you ever want to do anything get at me.

handsome lambyour class over view can be a little misleading. Pets on rangers can be very powerful, they can do more melee dmg then some warriors since they don't have adren and can spam more. The only draw back is you have to keep yourself and you pet alive. You also didn't give an example of a thumper.

Ritualist also do a TON more then spirt spam. I think of them as more of a like a Monk 2.0
They have Weapon spells which act like enchantments, but they can't be removed. Also they can out right heal others and can ever spike for dmg. You can also say more about the assassin as well.

Pets generally suck in PvP, and yeah I didn't give an example of a thumper etc. And Ritualists are spirit spammers mostly, they blow shit up at VoD in PvP with Splinter Weapon and Ancestor's, and I could say more about the assassin, but the class overview was a generally overview not an indepth one. Necros can be more than hexmancers and MM's too but I'm not going to go indepth and list everrrry single thing the class can do, just what they are popular for.

I pretty much only pvp on wow and even though I can't help but compare every fucking detail of this game to wow it's quite interesting still. How long would it take to get a character ready for 20 pvp or whatever? I'm not interested in pve one bit CUTSCENES or not.

Isn't the 8 abilities at a time thing a little limiting and gay or does it work fine really? I can see myself thinking GIMME BIGGER BARS FFS but then I have one hundred million spells in wow it might be nice to have a change.

My biggest issue (this issue is big) with the game is that people are actually allowed to call their characters shit like  I WILL CAST A SPELL. I can't see that not annoying me.

well mark the spells thing is uh.. on purpose. the game is built around the fact you can only use 8 abilities at one time. so yeah, that isn't a factor at all.

and the name thing i dunno. tbh i find it cooler that i am able to call my guy whatever i want rather than limited to ONE WORD FANTASY NAME and think it's a worthy payoff having to put up with Buffy the Vampire rather than Buffysummerthevampiresl who I actually saw in WoW once.

Hmmmm, I just don't see Buffysummers (which is the wow name length limit) being worse than X Autumn Leaves X oh god I bet they let you have the Xs and everything.

I knew 8 spells THAT'S IT was a design choice, like it didn't happen by accident. I meant more does it play well. I guess if 8 spells is what you're used to and everyone else has 8 spells it's all fine and dandy

Will probably give it a go soon, look out for The Mighty Odin XI

Hmmmm, I just don't see Buffysummers (which is the wow name length limit) being worse than X Autumn Leaves X oh god I bet they let you have the Xs and everything.

I knew 8 spells THAT'S IT was a design choice, like it didn't happen by accident. I meant more does it play well. I guess if 8 spells is what you're used to and everyone else has 8 spells it's all fine and dandy

Will probably give it a go soon, look out for The Mighty Odin XI

tbh you only really have to put up with your friends names anyway, everywhere is party-instanced apart from towns (which are really literally just SELL GET QUESTS GO areas) so yeah the name feature is really not that disasterous

and on the skills it plays fine. it's just a game thing, it plays the same as any other mmo with their little quirks like CAN'T CHANGE EQUIP IN BATTLE etc.

The point of the 8 skills is you build a strategy. You don't have all the skills avaliable. You pick what skills go together, and grab one elite skill, and build your "build" around it. Hell, you could even say you have 7 skills avaliable, because if you don't take Resurection Signet into random arenas then people will probably call you a noob. But yeah you definitely have enough skills at your disposal.

Yeah Mark, the eight skill thing is probably the weirdest but best part of Guild Wars, espically in PvP. It seems really limiting and less strategy-like when you look at WoW which has tons of skills and item ability's flying around all the time, but I'd say its more strategic, because if you fight say...a Warlock in WoW's PvP, you can pretty much guess what he's going to do pretty quickly because all Warlocks have access to the same skills, it pretty much just becomes an issue of "is he Destruction, Demonology, or Affliction..." overall. But in Guild Wars, with 100+ skills for the Necromancer and 100+ skills for whatever his secondary is, there is a ton of possibility's on what that Necro could be. He could be degen, life steal (ignores most Monk protection spells), minion master, hexmancer, etc. And even in those different subtypes there is many different builds for each of them.

That isn't to say you won't find a lot of people running the same build though, you will find people who run "cookie-cutter" builds, just like you find people in WoW running the same talent builds because they are optimal builds that win a lot.

Also if you got Prophecies, it would take maybe 30 hours to get to Level 20, but even then you won't (generally, you could get lucky) have max stat equipment either. Factions is quicker, NF is a bit longer than Factions but shorter than Prophecies, however I always recommend Prophecies since it basically teaches you the entire game (even the PvP modes) in a decent story mode. Its also the only campaign that will give you skills for quests, so its cheaper to be PvP ready as well.

Hmm seeing all of this discussion almost makes me want to get back into it. Is Eye of the North worth getting, or should I just wait for Guild Wars 2?

Also I think I already have DN on my friends list, but I main a 20 SS Necro, unless they nerfed that and I need to get one of my other guys up to 20.

SS Necro still works fine.

I'd recommend getting Factions/Nightfall first unless you have them already, then get EotN. I only really recommend EotN to people who have all 3, simply because EotN's PvE is actually pretty hard and other campaign skills help greatly in it. And the skills it does add aren't really into the PvP metagame yet cause most of them aren't too hot.

EDIT: NP, whats your IGN? I cleaned my friend's list like a couple months back.