Who are you? and What elitist attitude? Stop sucking and you wont think people are elitist ;)

evangel is a smart ass now?

jesus christ what the fuck am I then?

I wish you provided, you know, a link to this stuff because an out of context quote doesn't help. I'll take a crack at it though.

jesus never mind I can't be bothered to go through like five or six different topics.

you're also assuming anyone in g&d treats cardinal ximenex with anything but contempt, but that's a bit of a digression. the fact is first off ximenex shouldn't be making those posts in g&d if he is, because we separated the two for that very reason. and more importantly, it IS kind of an embarassing scene. I've seen with NO EXAGGERATION AT ALL topics from g&d members arguing:

-cliches are not bad, not even just unfortunately necessary, but should be espoused as good things.
-innovation is not nearly as important as making an otherwise completely boring rpg with nothing interesting.
-all demos should create hype, or be regarded as failures.

this ignores stuff I'm assuming you never noticed such as

-G&D deliberately IGNORING non rm2k/3 games, going so far as to shun Barkley, hima, and cactus, easily the three most successful designers to post on the community.
-G&D's multiple circlejerk topics. before your time, topics with zero actual merit were allowed to be bumped just to generate hype. a good fellow named Legion posted a topic and deliberately shadowed all his character portraits so when he felt like it he could bump the topic and say NEW CHARACTER BIO UP. all the bios were of course already done; he held onto them for bumping purposes.
-G&D members ignoring ideas like "we should try to appeal to all indie gamers" and focusing on someone saying "g&d isn't pulling in anyone and they're making some pretty shitty games to boot"

G&D built a negative rep in the community, whether they agree it's deserved or not. G&D does not donate nearly as much money as non-G&D members, G&D staffers quit regularly because the other G&D members in a silent protest refuse to comment on their articles, and G&D guys actually do just sit around and have their own little elitist club. amazingly the club is better than most of the NON-CLUB members who tend to be incredibly young and thus take any criticism, harsh or simple, as an insult.

there's nothing Ximenex said that isn't true. G&D was abandoned because the people who have been drawing attention have been mostly nackster, Sarevok, and the gamemakers above that I mentioned, where a lot of the regulars ignored them deliberately and at times, believed they were being insulted by the games. the regular members have for the most part abandoned RM making; ask most of the GW members outside of G&D what projects they are looking forward to and I guarantee 9 out of 10 will say Barkley 2 or Faceless neither of which are in RM. if he posted it in G&D, that's just asinine, but he's not saying anything that isn't the truth.

Steel is basically right.

I also think people overreact to what is said about games and need to learn to take criticism. If you're not making a game for e-props you should want to do the best you can.

XD

actually tonnes of people will ridicule it if it doesn't deserve it but they're not respected critics they're dorks on the internet, of which you're one of.

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this is what rpgmaker has become...

Bye guy. dont listen to gr, he's our local cs mod

May your Arrow strike true, wanderer.