Well personally I love this game.  It's rough around the edges in some spots but I think it is more than the sum of its parts maybe?  I have a really great time playing it and fooling around and occassionally advancing the plot etc.  Achievements really do wonders for a game like this, because even if you aren't that crazy about your gamerscore (I'm not), there is some sort of motivation to exploring all the pointless and esoteric things you can do in the game (like have children) if you get 10 achievement points for it.

Yeah, but you can't get achievements in the pc release. Is this whole game like set in a time period where you only have ye olde guns and one handed swords? I want some fucking Huge Ass Dark Blood Plate Armor and a giant two-handed sword

Yeah, but you can't get achievements in the pc release. Is this whole game like set in a time period where you only have ye olde guns and one handed swords? I want some fucking Huge Ass Dark Blood Plate Armor and a giant two-handed sword

I don't believe there is any armor in the game, actually.  A lot of people that play games like this are really into what their equipment looks like, rather than what it does.  Fable 2 completely eschews the concept of armor and just has clothing.  I'm not sure if there as clothing that *looks* like armor or not because I haven't progressed very far into the game.

Aw, they changed the combat?
That was the only thing good about Fable 1... Man...... Well, that's another game I don't have to worry about playing.

Come on, Yahtzee, don't let me down...

If you push in the right stick and then go up/down you can zoom on the Xbox 360.

Started playing this again last night, man had a four some(Two girls, one guy) used a condom as I ain't getting no STD, which apparently aren't curable? Also moved my whore wife and son Will to Oakfield as Bowerstone get's on my nerves when everyone loves you. I just bought a bar(Finally)also finished up the Blacksmith job and Wood cutter.. Which are seriously boring and time consuming, but it's good money.

Ive barely done anything with the main storyline though, exploring and doing other shit in the game is just awesome.

I mean its fun but not being a baddass knight dude with thick ass armor sucks and really ruined the appeal for me.

Also, you can move the camera but the character's facial features aren't really visible at all. You can get a two handed hammer and axe but no swords for some reason.

I like using cutlasses though and pistols are neat as shit. Its a pretty fun game but they left out those things that really make these sort of games fun for me. I'm dressed up as a highwayman though and thats pretty neat.

The clothing is really limited though and I don't like that. I found an assasin's cloak though but I can't find the rest of it anywhere. You can buy willuser's outfit in the very beggining which is really lame because its like the best set of clothing and now I'm wearing lesser shit just because I'm bored with it.

I also hate how if you're good you get a halo and thats about it. I want some fukkin angel wings or soemthing.

My buddy and insider to the harrowing world of xboxing was telling me more about this game. It sounds like fun, actually. Then again, he's a good salesman... Well, when I buy 360 (at the end of its reign) I'll look forward to giving this a go. I'm not too upset about the no armor thing, since the magic leveling and exploration sounds nice.

Okay, so a cutlass, a pistol, some fancy clothing... so basically you can be either a pirate or Zorro. I guess you can't be the Kurgan any more but this is the right replacement!

I haven't played as a girl yet but there is a female hero in it that is huge as shit and really bulky looking I don't know if I could deal with playing a manwoman

maybe she gets to hold the big swords and wear all the armor, and grunts in a deep voice from behind her more-than-peachfuzz moustache.

Man, Bigass Doom Plate armor is probably the most important aspect of looking good.  Bigass Doom Plate Armor and Mighty Death Axe. those are the TWO MOST IMPORTANT PARTS

There is no armor in the game :[ But ][/ But]I mean its fun but not being a baddass knight dude with thick ass armor sucks and really ruined the appeal for me.[/quote]
The game is set several hundred years in the future. Armor at this point would be both out of place (how often do you see someone walking down the streets in a suit of full plate mail?) and due to the invention of guns useless.
It's not unrealistic that there is no armor in the game, but is sure sucks that there is hardly any decent looking clothes!

Anyway, the game is decent, but nothing great. Though in a lot of aspects it seems to have taken a step backwards from the first Fable game.
Leveling up in particular is pretty bad. At the start of the game you can swing your weapon, and shoot your gun, that is all. You cannot block, use flourishes, or even aim your gun. You literally have to level up to buy this stuff which came as default in Fable.

Combat it's self is at times stupid too. Sometimes the game just randomly goes into slow motion, and the camera zooms in on an enemy. I don't know why it does this to be honest with you!
You also cannot attack enemies that are backed up to a wall, you cannot swing weapons near walls, and if the enemy is near a wall, you simple cannot swing your weapon at them.

Magic is also really crappy. There is 8 spells, and only one of them is useful, and that is Shock and that is only because it hits and stuns. Inferno is basically Shock, but it does not stun, Blades is Shock without the stun, Vortex is Shock without the stun, Force Push is Shock with the stun... But less than half the damage. All the cool and useful spells Fable had have been removed for no apparent reason (no heal, mp shield, berserk, assassins rush, multi-strike/arrow and so on).
On top of that the way magic is cast though kind of useful (all spells can either be targetted at an enemy, or used to hit all nearby enemies) sucks because Mp is removed, and replaced with having to charge up a spell. To charge up a full level 5 spell takes a good 5+ seconds, if enemies are near you then chances are you'll be dead long before this happens, and if not then you'll only get off a single spell before enemies get too close to you. Also, having to charge up spells means you will only ever be using a single spell, since it is not easy to change a spell unless outside of combat.

Shops are crap too. They sell like... 1 of every item they have in stock, and that is it. And everyday their selection of items is randomised. If you want to stock up on some potions this means you buy a potion. Sleep for a day, come back the next and hopefully buy another if they have it in stock. Repeat until you have enough potions. (Never  use food, after a single fight you'll end up a total fatass, and losing weight is impossible outside of buying a single stick of celery every day for 2 in game weeks... Great fun, really great fun!)

Using items is horribly retarded too. In the original Fable I could slap an item onto the D-Pad, and press that direction to use it. This seems to have been entirely removed from Fable 2.
Now you have to press start, select items, select potions, find and use the potion. Oh yeah... The menu system lags a lot. Pressing start, 2s lag, selecting items, another 2s lag, selecting potions, ANOTHER 2s lag, finally using the potion also results in a few seconds of lag. And you have to do this with every single item you want to use except in rare cases (when you are nearly dead a potion will be assigned to the left direction, but chances are it is not the right potion you want to use and the most expensive potion which will heal you for 500% more Hp than you even have).

Also, the game doesn't have a massive deal of exploration or open endedness to it. It is like Fable in that there is a path leading from one town to the next, only this time that path is slightly wider, and there is no easy to view minimap, making it look even less like a path.

The game could have been a lot better than it is. But for some reason the developers decided to make a lot of retarded choices for no apparent reasons. But at least you get a pet dog, and can get STDs!!!!!!

Yeah its like to support that open endedness claim they completely got rid of the minimap and put some golden trail that disappears half the time so you don't know where the fuck you are and end up wandering around for like thirty minutes.

That sounds horrible. I can't in good conscience pick up this game when it comes out for PC, even if they update it and there's a bunch of mods for it.

Alright, I don't love the game but it's not as bad as Yugi makes it out to be.

There is no armor in the game :[ But there is big axes, hammers and cleavers (giant butchers knifes). All clothes in the game are for appearance only, and have no other effects.
Also, most of the clothes in the game suck, badly. At the end of the game basically everyone will look the same, like a pirate or an assassin, because those are the only remotely decent looking clothes (the clothes you start with seriously look better than pretty much everything else except for pirate/assassin clothes).
The game is set several hundred years in the future. Armor at this point would be both out of place (how often do you see someone walking down the streets in a suit of full plate mail?) and due to the invention of guns useless.
It's not unrealistic that there is no armor in the game, but is sure sucks that there is hardly any decent looking clothes!

Sadly, this is true.  On my lady warrior I gave her the hot pants, the corset and the thigh boots because she looks so dumb it makes me laugh just to look at her.  I don't mind the adventurer outfit though.

Anyway, the game is decent, but nothing great. Though in a lot of aspects it seems to have taken a step backwards from the first Fable game.
Leveling up in particular is pretty bad. At the start of the game you can swing your weapon, and shoot your gun, that is all. You cannot block, use flourishes, or even aim your gun. You literally have to level up to buy this stuff which came as default in Fable.

I don't think it's dumb you have to level up to use those things, since you can get along fine without them anyway.  You can aim you gun just not manually at first.  It doesn't take long to level up to get those things anyway (since they are in the first 1 or 2 levels).

Combat it's self is at times stupid too. Sometimes the game just randomly goes into slow motion, and the camera zooms in on an enemy. I don't know why it does this to be honest with you!

My game only does this when I kill and enemy and it zooms in on the death animation.  I have no idea why your game would be doing this randomly.

You also cannot attack enemies that are backed up to a wall, you cannot swing weapons near walls, and if the enemy is near a wall, you simple cannot swing your weapon at them.

I'm not saying this doesn't happen but I've never had an issue with this happening (I generally use ranged attacks though until I'm surrounded).

Magic is also really crappy. There is 8 spells, and only one of them is useful, and that is Shock and that is only because it hits and stuns. Inferno is basically Shock, but it does not stun, Blades is Shock without the stun, Vortex is Shock without the stun, Force Push is Shock with the stun... But less than half the damage. All the cool and useful spells Fable had have been removed for no apparent reason (no heal, mp shield, berserk, assassins rush, multi-strike/arrow and so on).

I agree but replace Shock with Inferno.  Inferno kills all.

On top of that the way magic is cast though kind of useful (all spells can either be targetted at an enemy, or used to hit all nearby enemies) sucks because Mp is removed, and replaced with having to charge up a spell. To charge up a full level 5 spell takes a good 5+ seconds, if enemies are near you then chances are you'll be dead long before this happens, and if not then you'll only get off a single spell before enemies get too close to you. Also, having to charge up spells means you will only ever be using a single spell, since it is not easy to change a spell unless outside of combat.

I've never had a problem with the magic charge time but my spells are only at level 3.

Shops are crap too. They sell like... 1 of every item they have in stock, and that is it. And everyday their selection of items is randomised. If you want to stock up on some potions this means you buy a potion. Sleep for a day, come back the next and hopefully buy another if they have it in stock. Repeat until you have enough potions. (Never  use food, after a single fight you'll end up a total fatass, and losing weight is impossible outside of buying a single stick of celery every day for 2 in game weeks... Great fun, really great fun!)

I don't ever buy potions at shops only furniture and such but having said that I haven't had any issues there yet.  I've not had any trouble with eating and getting fat and I do eat quite a bit.  Maybe the girl warrior is different than the male in that respect.

Using items is horribly retarded too. In the original Fable I could slap an item onto the D-Pad, and press that direction to use it. This seems to have been entirely removed from Fable 2.
Now you have to press start, select items, select potions, find and use the potion. Oh yeah... The menu system lags a lot. Pressing start, 2s lag, selecting items, another 2s lag, selecting potions, ANOTHER 2s lag, finally using the potion also results in a few seconds of lag. And you have to do this with every single item you want to use except in rare cases (when you are nearly dead a potion will be assigned to the left direction, but chances are it is not the right potion you want to use and the most expensive potion which will heal you for 500% more Hp than you even have).

lol I agree I prefered the d-pad item slot but I've never experienced lag in the menus.  I do get about 2 seconds of lag while entering the menu but from there it's smooth.

Also, the game doesn't have a massive deal of exploration or open endedness to it. It is like Fable in that there is a path leading from one town to the next, only this time that path is slightly wider, and there is no easy to view minimap, making it look even less like a path.

This is true but they do have bigger areas and you aren't (for the most part) restricted to the paths (ie. you can run around the forests/fields etc. so there is a bit more to explore. 

The game could have been a lot better than it is. But for some reason the developers decided to make a lot of retarded choices for no apparent reasons. But at least you get a pet dog, and can get STDs!!!!!!

I find the dog mostly useless the only thing he's good for is dig spots but I haven't seen anything too spectacular from them.

once you level him up to about 3 or 4 he's alot better and will find any treasure chest shit in the nearby vicinity. He also finishes off alot of dudes you knock on the ground.

I love my dog but this game talks about a "choice" and if I have to choose between killing my dog or something I'm going to be really pissed off the dog is like the best character in the game.

This morning my brother wakes me up around 6am and tells me the cat knowcked over the 360 with Fable 2 in it and now my disk doesn't work.. So now I'm going later on to see if I ican get it cleaned at Blockbuster or something, see if that helps. Fuck I'm gutted as right now.