Nah. It's not oblivion with guns.

Ranged combat is so bad that it's not a viable alternative to melee weapons. So it's just Oblvion.

don't know. never played oblivion, never played this.

Does anyone know how long the game is supposed to be, if you completed all the quests...?

Alright, I have about four hours on my character so far.

Considering the fact that this is basically Oblivion with a new look.. It's pretty damn funny how Fallout 3 is so much better than it. I mean, this game KILLS Oblivion. It doesn't stop there either, it beats Oblivion into a bloody pulp with its own severed limbs.

Combat is actually interesting, though I find that I run out of bullets incredibly fast (even when I use that slow motion aiming, whatever it's called).

Fallout 3 also succeeds where Oblivion failed miserably. Atmosphere. Oblivion was just a vast expanse of the same dull looking forests and caves. Fallout 3 is, well, so much more. Exploring the world is actually really interesting and fun.


Also hey, how the HELL do you get to the Galaxy News Radio building when it gets marked on your map? I cannot find any path at all that leads to it.

the only way i can ever beat super mutants/robots/high level enemies/whatever is if i use vats like 3 times on them. i probably get about a minute of slow motion per enemy. it's pretty cool. i bet if you add up all the time you're in slow motion vats it probably adds 2 hours to the game.

so who wants to bet that they'll put vehicles into the game 6 months from now as a $15 downloadable add-on.

IT'S THE FUTURE OF VIDEOGAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so who wants to bet that they'll put vehicles into the game 6 months from now as a $15 downloadable add-on.

IT'S THE FUTURE OF VIDEOGAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ahahaha, i was thinking about this too. THEY PROBABLY WILL! hey, did you know all of the exact same console codes from oblivion work on this too?

So much more? Instead of dull looking forests and caves, you now have dull looking wastelands...and caves. The more you get into the game the more you'll notice how much they've repeated 'dungeons' again, just like with Oblivion.

Well, it's probably just down to personal taste, but I prefer wastes and city ruins over lots and lots of trees and hills.

How badass is Malcolm McDowell in this game?

Horses with armor.

I wish I was kidding.

Yup. They released horses with armour as a 'premium' download. There wasn't even mounted combat in the game.

there was like "sit on your horse and shoot arrows" or "switch to arrows while you are riding and have your horse slow down and bounce and mess up your aim" or "totally miss everything with your sword while on horse"

you forget that revolutionary horseback fighting!!

Be careful while exploring because you can literally stumble upon the final quest in the game as soon as you leave the vault.

also i'm pretty afraid of getting the game because if this is true!

and furthermore all the mixed feelings about the game makes me want to just wait it out until a price drop...sadly that will take like forever

ahahaha, i was thinking about this too. THEY PROBABLY WILL! hey, did you know all of the exact same console codes from oblivion work on this too?

Bethesda's reason for not packaging the editor is due to some sort of ESRB bullshit but current fan speculation is that they want to justify selling material that other people could make for free.  Fan made products pretty much made Oblivion playable and in a year's time a patch came out that fixed problems Bethesda never even touched with official patches yet they had no problem selling premium horse armor and a wizard's tower.

I mean, I know you get that car in Fallout 2 but getting some vehicle (unless it's like, riding a Brahmin or something) to drive would be fucking dumb.

The problem with vehicles is that CARS OF THE FUTURE drove at like 400mph so a car of any kind is pretty pointless.