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Oh I assumed he was making fun of it too, I just don't get why it happened in the first place.  I want to start color-coding my posts by positive/negative phrases now too.

I'm apparently very negative.

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        It's just a theme I've developed to differentiate my writing from the rest of the crop's. That, and it satisfies the Obsessive Compulsive in me. Besides, didn't this topic begin with a contemplation on whether "Universal Love" (and, by extension, "World Peace") is an eventual possibility? In a sense, by promoting diversity of style, my post was ironically symbolic of my own views on the subject...

If we died trying at least we tried.

I fully agree with this statement. In regard to this point, my philosophy is in-line with a certain Curtis Jackson's:



        Although the human race may not survive long enough to calculate the eventual sum, we are constantly uncovering new variables and figures in this seemingly never-ending equation that is scientific and technological development. 

Living a dull (or torturous) life hoping it'll brighten up down the road is well just that, hope, and let me tell you you it doesn't brighten up unless you make it brighten up.

        I also agree with what you write here. I believe that whilst life may be utterly devoid of meaning, we are "free" (in a sense of the word) to define and attribute a meaning of our own. In order to attempt to solve problems on the macro scale, we must first concentrate on rectifying those at the micro level, starting with Self-Improvement. The "source", if you will.

Which leads-on to...

What annoys me about the whole process is that so many in high places are greedy and selfish, that they couldn't care less about mankind moving forward, or if mankind moving forward as a species, curing all diseases, colonising space etc makes it harder for them to line their pockets it can go to hell.

        This is an unfortunate thing that mankind - in its attempt to establish a structure within which to progress - has created for itself: the pursuit of a higher state of being. It's a sad-but-true by-product of human civilization, and at the same time the core ideal of this construct. You've got to aim high if you're going to reach high. But then once you reach Heaven, would you really want to toss the fruits of your labour back down into Hell if that meant living a life of poverty in paradise?

        While Self-Improvement may yield the first answer in a long line of questions, the real question is - having answered the first question - "do we end up losing interest in moving onto the second?" Is this "Universal Love" possible when in the euphoric state of self-satisfaction we sink into a sub-state of blissful apathy?
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In our society, everything everyone believes in is truth. And at the same time, it's all a lie. So where do we stand?

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As you may have deduced, both solutions are flawed. If we go the Dictatorial route, we have no way of knowing if the path we're being led down is the correct one, if indeed there is a path at all (going back to the notion of "constructs"). And if we decide that the Democratic model is best suited to the prosperity of mankind, the process of deconstruction may be so long that we die-out before we ever discover true "Universal Love."

Even if the basis of your path is subjective, it still has direction. The path is still worth traveling. You can't argue that subjectivity underlies all conscious thought, and claim that everything is meaningless compared to objective ideals. If you do, you contradict your own premise of subjectivity. Thus, you contradict your own self. This breeds conflict in how you live your life.

All you guys really need to do is look at the brighter side of things. Our generation is host to conflict -- we've got shit against religion, against establishment, against everything. We're divided to our cores. At some point, we have to disregard some of these arguments within ourselves and just fucking live life for the sake of having direction, no matter where it leads. By looking at the brighter side, you completely ignore the bad, and at least you're fundamentally secure and undivided. That's what religion is for. Yeah, it might be a big great lie, but at least it's a way to live.

So I guess what I'm saying is lie to yourselves. You'll feel better, and you'll live better.

Which I guess is pretty off-topic.
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tolerance for really terrible shit isn't the same as universal love and understanding.  there's nothing LOVING or UNDERSTANDING about shit like /b/ at all; all they do is tolerate really awful behvaior that shows a distinct LACK of love/understanding.  a site like 4chan wouldnt even exist if it was what you were talking about.

i don't know about you but i care a lot less about what i do/how i look around my family and i'm pretty sure other people do too. imagine the world was one big happy family

i guess i've probably taken this too far but i think that's what it'd be like, lowest common denominator
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By looking at the brighter side, you completely ignore the bad, and at least you're fundamentally secure and undivided. That's what religion is for. Yeah, it might be a big great lie, but at least it's a way to live.

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Uhm, excuse me, but maybe you need some "G-O-D"  in your life heh

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Thats another thing that angers me. Why do I need god? Why does anyone need god? For moral and spiritual guidance. Why can't we learn to guide ourselves? Why can't we teach the young a good moral backing and even about spirituality without religion?

It angers me that regardless of what a good person I might strive to be. if I don't spend my life worshiping some omnipotent figure in the clouds I'll burn in hell for all eternity. I believe we needed religion as a crutch our moral backing in the early stages of civilization. To scare one another with stories of demons and evil in order to make us behave. But if we learn true peace and love why would we need it? Why do we even need it now? Plenty of people can go through life never knowing religion and still do good by others.

But why can't we discard that crutch and become dependent on ourselves? To develop our own individual beliefs totally freely from the information given to us and leave religion behind!
Last Edit: October 26, 2008, 08:22:39 pm by Coxswain
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Thats another thing that angers me. Why do I need god? Why does anyone need god? For moral and spiritual guidance. Why can't we learn to guide ourselves? Why can't we teach the young a good moral backing and even about spirituality without religion?

It angers me that regardless of what a good person I might strive to be. if I don't spend my life worshiping some omnipotent figure in the clouds I'll burn in hell for all eternity. I believe we needed religion as a crutch our moral backing in the early stages of civilization. To scare one another with stories of demons and evil in order to make us behave. But if we learn true peace and love why would we need it? Why do we even need it now? Plenty of people can go through life never knowing religion and still do good by others.

But why can't we discard that crutch and become dependent on ourselves? To develop our own individual beliefs totally freely from the information given to us and leave religion behind!


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first: kids go read some socrates and aristotle. they be gangstas you know

second: the more and more i look into this whole idea of 'a next level' (which by the way is so abstract and undefined it almost warrants not using) the more and more i think people as a race are getting closer and closer to a glass ceiling

or maybe not.
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isn't it funny. dead people, more often then not, have some of the most interesting things to say
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Love this topic: we need more like it.

This subject is among my favorites to contemplate because it very heavily involves transhumanism and posthumanism. These both are strongly a part of what has been coined the technological singularity, where man and machine become one and the same.

The optimistic side of me is - of course - hopeful that one day we are able to transcend death, disease, hatred and create our own heaven on earth. In this optimism, those who chose to stay unmodified may do so and even reap some of the less radical benefits like having robot servents and just living in an overall safer world. They can even choose to keep worshiping their gods if they want! I hope the conservative world and the progressive world can live peacefully.

Of course, it could never work this way. There will be those who violently oppose anyone[/i] becoming transhuman... superior beings capable of thought unimaginable to us. They will be skeptical and feel that they may be oppressed by robot humans or whatever. I think these fears are largely unfounded as we would create these robots and transhuman beings in our image. Surely they would have the utmost respect for their creators, and would hopefully share our vision and goal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm - Good read. Some scientists estimate the first person to live to 1000 has already been born.

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To those who fear boredom down the road, I ask you this: would you feel bored traveling the universe and exploring new and potentially beautiful planets? Space exploration will be much easier if we can actually live long enough to get to some of these distant planets.
Would you feel bored living in your dreams... how about if you could define them before you have them? Virtual reality videogames? This may all be possible through tiny neurobots which hack into the brain and control your perception (heh sounds like drugs).

And some fears I've heard expressed by others are kind of understandable. I wouldn't want to live in an oppressive world where our robots control us... or where we live in a world like the Matrix which we no longer have control.
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people need a god i thnk for closure. If they do not believe in god or something of an afterlife, they want to believe that their love ones are not just rotting in the ground. I met a guy once who was atheist his whole life, his family was, and when his son passed away he said he wanted to believe in god and afterllife, and heaven, things like that. He told me he wished he was brought up with religion for this reason. The thing is he couldn't believe this, and his son was just rotting in the ground.

 
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These thought come on sometimes, and seem to never end. But I never really take them seriously, I leave them to myself and go on with my life. Besides, there's not a single friend I know that I can have an intelligent conversation with anyways.

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Because thinking about life, how we could improve upon it, and actually do constructive things with our time here is like being a dorky teenager that wears black clothing and listens to horrible music.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm - Good read. Some scientists estimate the first person to live to 1000 has already been born.

This is really interesting though. But I don't think I see us grafting ourselves to machines or any of that crazy shit. I think with gene therapy and cellular regeneration we could probably do alot of really neat stuff though.
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*shrug*

Just sayin...  All this talk reminds me of these emo/goth/hippies I used to hang out with in highschool.  Yick...

One day I put the bottle and razor blade away and realized I felt a lot better about life and the rest of humanity  then.  I think the best and quickest way to make a lot these theoretical "problems" go away is to get a good wife, be a badass father raisin a champ of a kid with good ol fashioned morals and values, and encourage them to be a badass world leader, or at least a successful and still generous person.  Do your part too, of course.  Don't be wasteful.  Recycle.  Invest your money and time wisely and selflessly.  Donate if you have room to spare it.  Educate your neighbors without coming across as a pompous asshole.  Be agreeable and don't insist on subduing those you see as lessors.

If people just make it a point to better themselves, and not have such high expectations in life, a good portion of the issues today wouldn't seem so much like problems than just opportunities to make things better. 

That's what I'm gonna do.  Sorry about my first comment.  It's good to talk about this stuff but half my teen years were wasted on this kind of talk, with people who ended up druggies and living under bridges.  Or pregnant at 16 or whatever...  Decent kids with good hearts at the time, but being reminded of the par intellect that went to waste just irritates me...

I'm a lot better off than most of my past friends.  Again, because I put down the bottle and razor blade.  And I know somewhere out there they're probably having these same conversations with some other chump.  Wasting away drunk under the moon on a cold night...

Heh... still got a little goth in me.  ^
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drevean you are either like the worst or best poster ever i can't tell if you're being serious but either way i'm going to settle on worst.
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Jesus Drevean. Your words of wisdom are... inspiring.
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