haha, welllllllll that looks like a stupid post because i didn't finish it and forgot to come back and edit.  BUT, what i was going to say was that i think most look lame because people went for aesthetic changes half the time and not functional ones, and frankly, blizzard's default ui looks better than half the crap modders can make.  you see unit frames where blizzard's original ones were, only... uglier.  i've done that shit too and after like a week not liked it either, but with my last few attempts to change the blizzard ui, the whole idea was to go for a minimalist ui where shit should be where i thought it should be.  i typically don't like interfaces that are all fluffy either, even if they're mine, but i think most modded ones tend to look lame because a lot of people just choose shit based on whether or not it looks cool and not to directly fix some of the shortcomings of the default interface.  it's why i think that minimalistic is the way to go, because considering the experience of a lot of these modders when it comes to graphic design and the like, the most likely way to get changes that look GOOD are to get ones that look as simple as possible.  i guess i should post a screenshot or something.


not to say LOL MINE'S THE BEST, but yeah, that's basically what i meant.  when no one's talking or i'm not hitting anything, the chat windows get hidden, and it's a really large improvement in terms of how much of the screen you can see over the default ui.  plus it's really hard to look cheesy/bad when your unit frames are TWO BARS and nothing else.  mostly i just think there's something to be said for simplicity, when a lot of custom uis tend to just overcomplicate things unnecessarily.

I wanna play WoW... but I dunno!

PTR stats - hence the accented é 

68.58% mitigation from that armour FYI.

Who needs another 5-6% dodge when you have an extra 2-4k health? I reach 20k health without breaking a sweat in raids - just Imp, Fort, MOTW and BoK. I could be pushing 23k post-patch with full buffs. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple of percent. I fully buy into the theory of being a 'soaker'.

Who needs another 5-6% dodge when you have an extra 2-4k health? I reach 20k health without breaking a sweat in raids - just Imp, Fort, MOTW and BoK. I could be pushing 23k post-patch with full buffs. I'm willing to sacrifice a couple of percent. I fully buy into the theory of being a 'soaker'.

Yeah I guess, but a warrior hits 20k+ health easy, and has like 15% more dodge/parry, plus the crushing blow mitigation of block/shield block.  Realistically I wouldn't mind giving up 1k health for like 7% dodge.  That IS a lot of armor, though.  I think I'm just not as comfortable with the idea of a druid MT as I am with a warrior.

We're only in Kara atm. Our warriors are capping at 15k health or so buffed. Maybe they'll reach 20k later on, but at the minute...

This is true, of course, but what a bear gives healers is alot of padding, and more predictable health loss, as opposed to warriors, whose health bar can be decidedly unpredictable at times.

Pretty sure no Warrior is going to have 20k+ at a constant rate and still have GOOD doge/parry/block.

Both of our main tanks hover at around 20k, or more, fully buffed in a raid, with 17ish% dodge/parry, and probably like 20% or so block.  Maybe more.  One definitely has more dodge/block, but a bit less health. It just requires that you be well geared.  One's in 5/5 whatever the tier 4 tanking gear is, and the other one's in uh, apparently comparable/better shit.  I think it's easily possible in full epics.

But yeah, being able to take more predictable amounts of damage can be really good.  Like maybe if you're just starting to do Maulgar it'd be good, or if you start getting into the higher growths of Gruul and he isn't dead yet.  Maybe on Prince phase 2, but I'm not sure how serious that really is, being Karazhan and all.

It's time to play: Guess whats wrong in this picture!

I see it.