Looks like they're adding a big Dock/Harbour District. I've wanted them to do this all along, so I'm really pleased to see it at last.

You know though, with that addition Stormwind will definitely become the biggest city in the game by a mile. Look how big the new portion is, easily increasing the size of the city by at least 75%.

Maybe they'll be smart asses and not make it part of the city, though. Maybe they'd go as far as to call it "Elwynn Docks" or something.

If you look really closely, you can see all sorts of cool details like walkways and crap. It also looks like there are several towers along the dock border. There are circular objects all along there which are easily almost as big as houses in the trade district.

Maybe they're gonna expand ALL the capitals?

Maybe finally get Old Ironforge as a player seeable place without having to exploit it, etc?

Also, Blood Elves as Death Knights look even more like Sephiroth now.

as much as i wanna be a gnome death knight i would give up that option if they made it so night elves and blood elves couldn't be one

btw, here's the Death Knight Talents and Spells so you don't have to download them from rapidshit:

http://tinyurl.com/6kz99q = Talents
http://tinyurl.com/6a5ef6 = Spells

Looking at alpha deathknights being played on youtube videos and shit it's fairly obvious that they're working hard to make their animations more WHOA KEWL than any of the other class's which is a bit gay.

Everything they do is four times bigger. I mean maybe the other class' 51 point talents are going to have these new giant anime explosions and shit but I doubt it.

they have a spell that literally makes a huge explosion and its bigger than the damn death knight who is doing it half the time

whatthe fuck

Unlike Gul'dan's death knights, modern death knights consist mainly of paladins who lost their faith and pledged their souls to the Lich King in exchange for the promise of immortality. Death knights who fall in battle are soon raised again to continue in their master's service.

Man how the fuck are they going to mess with the lore to explain why I can make a TAUREN DEATH KNIGHT

Man how the fuck are they going to mess with the lore to explain why I can make a TAUREN DEATH KNIGHT

Keyword: mainly.

Yeah, allowing any race to be a death knight is pretty wonky.

Hell, they should've chosen "necromancer" to be the hero class. At least that's a little more plausible.

Man how the fuck are they going to mess with the lore to explain why I can make a TAUREN DEATH KNIGHT

"We could have them... I guess we could..."

"We not doing the crystal spaceship again."

"Hmmm.."

"Okay, okay, but this is the last time. I'll get some hack to write a trashy warcraft paperback about it"


I like to imagine blizzard design meetings

Death Knights being any race is not wonky at all. Modern death knights, yes, mainly are made of paladins who have lost their faith in "The Light" but this is not always the case. Anyone who can be corrupted (read: every race ever) can be a death knight, as long as they pledge immortal service to the Lich King. Taurens, unfortunately, are "human" just like every race in Warcraft, and can be evil, and corrupted. Mr. Smite, anyone? That's not the only example either.

Also the crystal spaceship isn't that SURPRISING of a thing in retrospect. Sure, I bet a lot of people go WTF SPACESHIPS IN MY FANTASY or something, but it's not that surprising, considering the Draenei came to Draenor from Argus in the same way after the corruption of Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden by Sargeras. It's not that farfetched.

edit: yes i am steel except instead of star wars lore i am warcraft lore guy....

wait steel is big on star wars lore?

he mentioned it in the soul calibur topic soooo

handsome lamb, would you be interested in writing a trashy paperback for us?

yes it will be really good brb

(i havent read the novels)

theres no need to because you can read it all on wowwiki

theres no need to because you can read it all on wowwiki

o rly?

i just wasn't really interested in them because afaik they take place LONG AGO and I don't give a shit about long ago.

(in a galaxy, far, far, away....)

Death Knights being any race is not wonky at all. Modern death knights, yes, mainly are made of paladins who have lost their faith in "The Light" but this is not always the case. Anyone who can be corrupted (read: every race ever) can be a death knight, as long as they pledge immortal service to the Lich King. Taurens, unfortunately, are "human" just like every race in Warcraft, and can be evil, and corrupted. Mr. Smite, anyone? That's not the only example either.

Man, the problem with it is it is just a terrible terrible move. Like, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the reason every ghoul/zombie in the game is clearly a human isn't because the modellers were terribly lazy, but because not that many non-humans became Scourge! Like all the dwarves/gnomes/elves killed and raised were probably so few in number they're already dead. So propotionately there should not be enough death knights running around for players to be them, let alone ones of ANE race they fucking want.

So

A Tauren somehow finds himself in a DILLY OF A PICKLE

He agree to serve the Lich King in exchange for immortality.

He somehow breaks free from the Lich King's will (despite the fact that death knights are like right under arthas' nose and not some chump zombie that becomes forsaken)

Ok LFG frozen throne.

I don't see why they couldnt have just had death knights be humans for alliance and forsaken for horde. Like, how would that not be good enough.

Also why is it a human death knight just shuffles back to alliance and not become some sneaky fellow like Sylvannas.

Man, the problem with it is it is just a terrible terrible move. Like, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the reason every ghoul/zombie in the game is clearly a human isn't because the modellers were terribly lazy, but because not that many non-humans became Scourge! Like all the dwarves/gnomes/elves killed and raised were probably so few in number they're already dead. So propotionately there should not be enough death knights running around for players to be them, let alone ones of ANE race they fucking want.

The reason there isn't many non-human scourge is because the Plague of Undeath was sent into human lands. Of course there are dwarf/elvish/gnome/etc scourge, just very few as you said (modellers were lazy). But, one doesn't have to be scourge to be a Death Knight, so this is a moot point you bring up, really. The Lich King twists the soul of the being, so they retain their humanity, (and therefore aren't Scourge) but now serve his will.

He'd take any strong hero with heroic power into such an army, as long as they can be corrupted to his side. Especially since he has people everywhere building up to fight him.

As for breaking free of his will, it's important to note that the Lich King has seemingly had his control wane by the time WoW starts. Namely, the Forsaken, broke away from his will. Most likely this is because there's possibly millions upon millions of undead, and he's finding himself unable to control them all (this is just a theory, it isn't really explained, yet.)

Most likely, the Knights of the Ebon Blade have found some magical god item or something that circumvents his will or some shit. I'm sure that reputation arc will explain it.