Question The Decline Of Microsoft and the Proposed Rise of MAC (Read 3678 times)

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Haha actually I was kind of getting annoyed because the Mac hardware itself is actually pretty good, I heard it's better for music because the internal parts make less noise but it's still a moot point because Mac OS doesn't have any cool software
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Edit: Oh shit Mac guy is one cool dude he reminds me of that guy from The Office and PC guy reminds me of... that other guy from The Office

The PC guy is John Hodgman from The Daily Show.  Anyways, Vista isn't the sole problem for why Microsoft is losing it's market share, nor is the Mac the reason Apple is doing so well.

Microsoft's biggest problem is it's business model.  They charge a ton of money to businesses and governments for software licensing, upgrades, etc.  There was an article in USAToday about five years ago about how Microsoft was going to charge Munich, Germany 36.6 million to upgrade the city government's 14,000 computers (roughly $2,600 per PC).  Munich rejected the offer and switched over to Linux.  A lot of businesses and governments have followed suit.  Five years ago Microsoft had $40.6 billion in cash on hand.  Now they have $20.7 billion.


Apple is doing so well mainly for the Ipod, Iphone, and Itunes.  Seriously have you seen the sales figures for those things?  I mean holy fucking shit do they sell well.
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...especially with the next Windows OS being built from scratch.

Haha, yeah everyone wishes this were true. Windows 7 is nearly identical to Windows Vista in the pre-beta builds.
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Man McJickle I'll be the first to say OSX and Linux are better than Windows but using Windows doesn't mean HEH YOU'RE SUCH A SQUARE, WHAT A DUMMY
Nah I wasnt saying that. I use my windows machine more than my mac or using linux. I've got NO programs for my linux machine. I only used it before because it was muuuuch better for surfing the net but now machine isnt hooked up to the internet its windows for me.
All the programs I use could run on a mac, but I haven't got one of my own and if I get a new laptop, it'll be an XP one. But not vista (ergh)

i dunno, their iLife programs and professional stuff like Logic or Final Cut Pro are pretty awesome

Yeah the stuff that comes with osx are pretty good. Garageband and whatnot. But logic is terrible. Everyone I have asked about it have said it is horrible to use (ok i admit i've not tried it myself.)
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Windows 7 according to MS is pretty much what vista was supposed to be.
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I don't think they're out to take over the OS market like Microsoft did because they're first and foremost a hardware company with an entirely different business model.
They've been doing better than ever the past couple years. I think they've got around a 20% market share now which is pretty remarkable.
It's actually 4-8%, which, while showing a gradual increased adoption over years, is still not a threat to the 90-95% dominance of Windows PCs. Most people who didn't like Vista kept or downgraded to Windows XP, and I'm sure Microsoft will try to make Windows 7 a better experience than Vista. They don't have to worry yet.

An interesting trend that might open a new market for alternative operating systems is netbooks, small and cheap laptops used mainly for browsing. Some of these laptops are already running versions of Linux, as well as Windows XP. For most users whose main interaction with computers include checking e-mail and Facebook, they are a good investment and they wouldn't miss Windows much. I wonder when Apple is going to start targeting that market.

I personally don't mind Vista, I believe most of the concerns are a bit overrated, but that's mainly because I rarely run into driver or software compatibility problems and my machine is fast enough for me not to notice any harmful performance hit. Still, my main operating system is Ubuntu and I mostly use Vista for games, so I guess I haven't used Vista enough to hate it.
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I said market share, as in the percentage of new computers being sold.
Interesting. Do you have a reference for that?
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Actually I read that some (many?) of those children laptops started using Windows, and that open source people are upset about it.
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your weird yanky mac vs pc adverts are crazy, it just ain't right without Mitchell and Webb.

I only use PCs, reason being A. I can't afford a Mac, B. I'm used to PCs and C.PCs are better for gaming/shit (which I barely do much of these days, but a year ago it was the reason I got this PC).
I've heard Macs are good for music and graphics and whatnot... but my pc does what I need. Also why pay a grand for a macbook that's as powerful as a £300 windows Laptop?
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those mac commercials are so good from a marketing standpoint but so bad for mac users, now you're lumped in with idiot consumer college kids

anyway I've had this inexpensive HP notebook with vista for a while and it still works great *SMIRKS* ITS JUST ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE --Dada (j/k bro)
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those mac commercials are so good from a marketing standpoint but so bad for mac users, now you're lumped in with idiot consumer college kids

anyway I've had this inexpensive HP notebook with vista for a while and it still works great *SMIRKS* ITS JUST ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE --Dada (j/k bro)

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I've heard Macs are good for music and graphics and whatnot... but my pc does what I need. Also why pay a grand for a macbook that's as powerful as a £300 windows Laptop?
really though macs have better "out of the box" tools for that shit, but on windows and linux you just download audacity and gimp and you're set from a free standpoint, and anyone who's REALLY SERIOUS about it are using commercial software anyway, and it's roughly the same price to get any equivalent software for either OS, and mixed with being able to buy a more powerful PC for the price, it sounds like a PC is the way to go for music and graphics if you want the biggest bang for your buck and don't want to be stuck with garage band.
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i dont really know whether or not vista is a good os compared to mac os but i will use windows as long as it is around simply because i have used it all of my life. vista may not be THE BEST OS OF ALL CONSCIOUSNESS but it isnt bad enough to make me want to learn how to use a mac

also i will never ever ever switch to mac until their mice have two buttons. also also i will never use a mac until you can left click on their notebooks using the touchpad
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i dont really know whether or not vista is a good os compared to mac os but i will use windows as long as it is around simply because i have used it all of my life. vista may not be THE BEST OS OF ALL CONSCIOUSNESS but it isnt bad enough to make me want to learn how to use a mac

also i will never ever ever switch to mac until their mice have two buttons. also also i will never use a mac until you can left click on their notebooks using the touchpad

Their mice have 4 buttons now!
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also i will never ever ever switch to mac until their mice have two buttons. also also i will never use a mac until you can left click on their notebooks using the touchpad

a) you can use any standard mouse with a mac
b) you CAN tap the touchpad for a left click and tap it with two fingers for a right click, it takes like two seconds to turn this on
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Apple will never surpass Microsoft unless they start seriously attracting businesses that require enterprise solutions.  Just saying, "Hey, we can run Microsoft Office too!" is not enough.
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Apple will never surpass Microsoft unless they start seriously attracting businesses that require enterprise solutions.  Just saying, "Hey, we can run Microsoft Office too!" is not enough.
That's a whole other market that apple aint interested in. Their business model is not "let's get mac os on every computer", its more about targeting specific sections of the consumer and professional markets and turning a larger profit by selling the whole hardware/software package.