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Mr. Actionist

#1 December 04, 2008, 09:07:12 am

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Hey guys, I'm on school holidays, and my music library, while fairly large, is beginning to bore me.

Mainly I listen to stuff like:

A Perfect Circle
Coheed and Cambria
Deftones
King Crimson
The Mars Volta
Muse
Porcupine Tree
Queens of the Stone Age
Radiohead
System of a Down
Tool
Ween
Yes

but what I really like is good instrumentation (as in, not dragonforce's really fast-ness, but stuff that isn't necessarily technical but still sounds good), a singer who isn't annoying and doesn't sing the same way all the time (yeah, I know Coheed and Cambria is in my music library) and, much in the same vein, non-annoying lyrics (i.e. rhyming all the time with horrible rhymes (e.g. "you broke my heart/right from the start" or something)).

It doesn't really matter if the bands aren't really in the style of what's above; I'll listen to a lot of stuff as long as it meets the above criteria (for example, I'd really like to get into jazz).

Any suggestions would be great.

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#2 December 04, 2008, 09:48:11 am

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Oceansize.

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#3 December 04, 2008, 11:41:27 am

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The Butterfly Effect.
At The Drive-In.
Rush.
Portgual The Man.
Genesis.
Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

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Mama Luigi

#4 December 04, 2008, 02:33:44 pm

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Katatonia - The Great Cold Distance
Their old stuff was doom metal but their latest albums have been a hybrid progressive rock/metal. Some call their new style depressive rock. Whatever the case, The Great Cold Distance is pretty good. Highlight tracks are My Twin, Deliberation, and July.

Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element I
PoS is a rare breed of progressive metal. They incorporate many different styles of music and the vocalist has an amazing range.

Ayreon - The Human Equation / 01011001
Both albums full of a variety of musical styles and many different vocalists. Ayreon do rock operas, but more science-fiction-oriented and they definitely have a metal edge. If you don't like any sort of sci-fi related lyrics then focus more on The Human Equation which foregoes those lyrical conventions.

Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
Really good progressive rock - definitely up your alley I think.

Those are the only ones I listen to that might fit your criteria.

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#5 December 04, 2008, 04:26:23 pm

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dredg (El Cielo or Catch Without Arms, I'd start with the latter)
Pure Reason Revolution
Oceansize
3 (some similarities to C&C I suppose but so much better)
Pain of Salvation
Pineapple Thief
Aereogramme (Sleep and Release, My Heart Has A Wish That You Would Not Go or Seclusion)
Steven Wilson's new solo album perhaps??? (called Insurgentes)
Blackfield
Nine Inch Nails
Anathema (get A Natural Disaster)
Rishloo
Ours (get Mercy)

easy to say RECOMMEND ANYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS but there are hundreds and hundreds of artists we like so that's a pretty impossible task. easier to be specific.

oh yeah riverside too, they are p.good.

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#6 December 04, 2008, 04:56:51 pm

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Try Opeth's album "Damnation" and then work your way up to the death-vocals and go to "Blackwater Park."

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#7 December 04, 2008, 07:16:28 pm

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Ashes Divide (Billy Howerdale's solo project, its pretty good) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfbQSi6_8RY
Anathema

Amplifier

Fair to Midland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Svx-TT565U
Isis

I'm going to second portugal the man, Riverside, and Oceansize

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#8 December 04, 2008, 07:38:55 pm

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If you like Oceansize try Amplifier.

They're like Oceansize's little brother, and they're absolutely quality.

http://www.myspace.com/amplifiertheband

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#9 December 04, 2008, 09:00:04 pm

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Pure Reason Revolution

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DS

#10 December 04, 2008, 09:10:04 pm

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and if you like oceansize and amplifier, try eustacia! they only have a demo album out but it's free and good!

http://www.sturmberg.net/Demo_2007.rar

amplifier's second album insider was a pretty huge disappointment though.

also ashes divide kinda blow

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#11 December 04, 2008, 09:56:51 pm

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man you are a protogw listener but...i sense a doubt in you. the problem is you aint giving us NON GW GUYS (if you dont get this btw it is when someone can list porcupine tree + 20 bands that sound like variations on porcupine tree or basically a specific subset of DS's music) much to go on. here we go:

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but what I really like is good instrumentation (as in, not dragonforce's really fast-ness, but stuff that isn't necessarily technical but still sounds good), a singer who isn't annoying and doesn't sing the same way all the time (yeah, I know Coheed and Cambria is in my music library) and, much in the same vein, non-annoying lyrics (i.e. rhyming all the time with horrible rhymes (e.g. "you broke my heart/right from the start" or something)).

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okay so you've kicked out really shitty metal. that still leaves a lot. singing the same way all the time? I don't even get this man. like you aren't going to run into many groups that will have a vocalist switch between Tom Waits and Anthony Kiedis and similarly other than like Jack Johnson you wont see singers just all sounding the same (compare King's Crossing to St. Ides Heaven). coheed, volta, tool, muse, these guys have some infamously shitty lyrics. no one other than like PANIC AT THE DISCO rhymes heart and start or does boring shit, you need to be more specific than MUSIC THATS NOT BORING WITH SINGERS AND LYRICS.

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#12 December 05, 2008, 12:31:38 am

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hmm a half decent music list! (and by half decent, i mean half of it is decent- or better than decent i guess)

muse doesn't have shitty lyrics.
i do agree though that that was a bit if a general description that was posted.

i'll shoot some recommendations based on the bands you listed anyways (hopefully you don't think they're way off....):

The Bravery - Honest Mistake

Mindless Self Indulgence - Straight to Video

Patrick Wolf - The Libertine (please ignore the high twink factor in the video)

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#13 December 05, 2008, 12:49:56 am

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hey im going to hijack this topic to push this lyrics point a bit because its been a while since we've had a dumb lyrics argument.

I dont really care for muse at all so I just googled RANDOM SONG.

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don't kid yourself
and don't fool yourself
this love's too good to last
and i'm too old to dream

don't grow up too fast
and don't embrace the past
this life's too good to last
and i'm too young to care

don't kid yourself
and don't fool yourself
this life could be the last
and we're too young to see

thats a lot of lines to say "youth is wasted on the young", here's elliott smith doing it in less in one of his less good songs:

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you idiot kid your arm's got a death in it
if you're choking up take this paper cup
but there's a price you'll pay for
trying hard to become whatever they are

here's muse with thoughts of a dying atheist

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Eerie whispers
trapped beneath my pillow
won't let me sleep
your memories

and I know you're in this room
I'm sure I heard you sigh
Floating in between
where our worlds collide

scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see
and it scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see

and I know the moment's near
and there's nothing you can do
look through a faithless eye
are you afraid to die?

thats a lot to say atheists might be frightened of dying (there's two more verses but it's just that "scares the hell out of me" line. here's tupac questioning his place in heaven:

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God damn it's a motherfuckin riot
Black people only hate police so don't try it
If you're not from the town then don't pass through
Cause some O.G. fools might blast you
It ain't right but it's long overdue
We can't have peace til the niggaz get a piece too
I want G's so you label me a criminal
And if I die, I wonder if heaven got a ghetto

the smith song is powerful in its images, the pac songs got slant rhymes and neat wordplay (one line before he says "I couldn't take it, had to make a profit/Down the block, got a glock, and I clock grip" which is a pretty tight rhyme) and those are both their WEAKER songs (the Pac song is actually a fucking Changes remix). that's what I mean by Muse don't got lyrics that I could say are GOOD and are kind of shitty. I mean, that's like saying idk because Panic at the Disco has better wordplay than Avril, their lyrics are good when you've got dudes like Jacques Brel, Nick Cave, Cursive, all runnin around with lines that'd make you snap in half in comparison.

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#14 December 05, 2008, 02:32:49 am

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i can't believe you're comparing muse to tupac. that's like comparing ukuleles with handlebar moustaches. two very different things.

i'm not saying muse has the most profound messages, or the most intricate wordplays. i do think that their lyrics are really match their music though. both the overall message and the actual phrases seem to match really well. generally they seem to have a more epic feel (if you will), so yeah, some of their lyics can be a bit corny, but in general i think its fitting.

you said you don't like their music, so you probably aren't into that whole angle (and probably think the lyrics are very corny and useless).

i think the first quote is saying more than just "youth is wasted on the young" and can be interpreted a lot of different ways depending on how you look at it. personally i like that in music.

i also think the lyrics can be good at visualizing the song

"Eerie whispers
trapped beneath my pillow
won't let me sleep"

"I know you're in this room
I'm sure I heard you sigh"

no?

i do agree that other artists might be better at different aspects of writing and i do like muse for other reasons before their lyrics, but i still think they are written pretty well and are at very least not shitty.

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#15 December 05, 2008, 02:33:00 am

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so what? I get what you're getting at but those aren't TERRIBLE lyrics

maybe bad or not good but not TERRIBLE

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#16 December 05, 2008, 03:09:23 am

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nah its pretty awful songwriting when you're spending the whole song pushing hilarious messages like ATHEIST...WHAT IF U DIE (really, guy?) and when you compare it to anyone else it's even worse. that first song doesn't say anything Bryan Adams didn't say.

THOSE WERE THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIIIIIFE.

muse doesn't write good lyrics, they write shitty pop prog stuff! it's not like it's vomit inducing shit, but it's still boring shit. if a lyric isn't particularly clever or insightful or FUN in some way (and guess what tupac...is music??? whoa, you mean there's wordplay outside of rap lyrics? unbelievable!) I don't see why I'm going to give it a rating above average, and if it's not even about interesting shit and occasionally touches dumb shit like ATHEISTS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE

yeah it's kind of shitty!

I'm always surprised when gw defends this stuff, it's well established Muse doesn't write good lyrics. here's a pitchfork guy:

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The album really starts to flag around "Exo-Politics", which figures it doesn't need a hook because it asks a tough question: "When the Zetas fill the skies," Bellamy wonders aloud over Sabbathian guitar plod, "will our leaders tell us why?"

yeah thats not shitty lyrics! the av club

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Starting with a spacey synthesizer fanfare and a deep, quavery vocal from bandleader Matthew Bellamy, the song gradually shifts into triumphant dance-pop, and then into outright Euro-trash bombast, complete with Queen-style harmonies, scorching electric guitar, and screechy lines like "You'll burn in hell for your sins." It's a prog-rock nightmare: pretentious, cacophonous, and thoroughly old-world.

fun little ending to this

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This is a very imposing kind of music, full of operatic flourish and lyrics about violent times and cosmic retribution. Give Muse credit for remaking itself over the years into a full-blown theatrical experience, and not just another echoing rock band. But that experience is, frankly, kind of shitty.

the village voice:

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There are synths and acoustic guitars and the drummer's galloping beat, all while vocalist Matthew Bellamy shouts at the devil and wields his guitar like a Ghostbuster's proton pack. Let's not even get into the unicorn/robot/cowboy-adorned video. The best part? A buildup so epic it feels like its 1999 and Sasha and Digweed are spinning at Twilo and you're candy-flipping and it's like dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah until a digital choir of Bellamys declares, a cappella, "No one's going to take me alive!/Time has come to make things right!"

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the universe has an infinite capacity for stupid, stupid shit.

this isn't JUST ME guys.

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#17 December 05, 2008, 03:35:06 am

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i agree that most lyrics blow and that the ones you cite arent good (fuck muse btw muse blows) buuuuuuuut some of these are flawed comparisons

you compare whoever to elliott smith like BREVITY means the same thing in regards to lyricism as it does in fiction repetition can serve a very important purpose, and it's kind of missing purpose if you're saying ALKHGERLKH GET TO THE POINT ALREADY, POETRY!!! there are extremes, but that one you posted is not one of them because the FORMATTING is what makes it longer than smith's, not the actual length; it's only like ten more words. and even if it was longer, there is nothing wrong with devoting an entire song to a theme. i don't know what else you expect them to do! cover as many issues in a single song as possible? honestly of the myriad omplaints you could make about the lyrical ability of most bands, i think this is perhaps the least legitimate.

you also cannot really tie some of these songs together. aside from PERTAINS TO ATHEISM and a difference in quality, those songs have nothing to do with each other. they're about radically different subjects. on this note i think this is actually something a misrepresentation on your part, and i wish you would not present points in such skewed manners, because ATHEIST...WHAT IF U DIE is a gross oversimplification and there was only a single noteworthy line in that pac verse, yet you sold it like someone was paying you too. i think the muse song is poorly written, but the idea is not hilarious at all. i think it is sort of funny that in spite of how arrogant the average atheist you meet is, they probably end up having a rougher time of it for their choices. i think the point is YOU DIE AND THATS IT and that at least if you are religious you get the benefit of never actually having to confront your own mortality. i am 100% atheist, and it is a lot more weight placed on you in terms of understanding that you are a FINITE BEING or whatever. it's not about what happens when you die it is about NOTHING HAPPENS and this is a horrifying concept for many people. CONTEMPLATING MORTALITY how is this "hilarious" exactly??? theyre def not good lyrics tho

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#18 December 05, 2008, 03:39:50 am

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also really theyre not good lyricists but this is not a good argument. posting SNIPPETS out of context proves approximately..........nothing??? like it is not supporting your claim in any way other than FAGGOT MUSIC REVIEWERS POTENTIALLY AGREE and who gives a shit. you could find music reviewers who say it is amazing. it doesn't mean anything!

ps check it:

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I want to hurt him/I want to give him pain

whoa....elliott smith worst lyricist of all time....

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#19 December 05, 2008, 03:44:57 am

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muse is fucking awful end of story, they build songs on some of the most annoying riffs and I can't stand hearing that asshole sing in his shitty voice.
They're one of many grandiose bands who pour tons of production into what boils down to boring over-serious rock with lyrics only a 12 year old could really appreciate.

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#20 December 05, 2008, 03:49:49 am

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"BECAUSE I SAY SO...."

~98% of my posts

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