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In the uk we have lovefilm where they post or "mail" you the film/game of your choice and you can have so many a month depending on your subscription. I do it for Blu Rays and PS3 games and it is a lot more economical than buying titles when they come out.

Having said this, I am totally happy with my £40 purchase of MGS4 as I have played though it many times.

Yeah we have something like this but for the small number of games I'd rent, it's not worth paying that much a month.
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I don't mind long cutscenes, but the quality of MGS4 cutscenes was awful.  Toward the end, everything got REALLY Japanese.  There was one four minute period where everyone was going "oh! Ah! Uh!" instead of using actual dialog.  It felt like I was watching fucking anime.  

The other MGS games weren't like this.  They were always packed with action and real emotion.  I just played through MGS3 again, and holy shit that game was fun.  
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Toward the end, everything got REALLY Japanese.  There was one four minute period where everyone was going "oh! Ah! Uh!" instead of using actual dialog.  It felt like I was watching fucking anime.

This is an unfiar criticism because I am pretty sure that the game was supposed to come off as "REALLY Japanese" and that feeling like you were "watching fucking anime" was sort of the point.
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all the MGS games have been somewhat postmodern deconstructions of japanese tropes. I mean, MGS2 and 4 directly claimed they were repeats of MGS1 at several points, if you think the plot is some Robert Altman shit but JAPANESE AUTHOR I'm not sure you get it.

I disliked 4 a lot but not because it was "too anime".
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Im not that impressed with this news.

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The game is of the “touch shooting” genre and will use the iPhone’s touchscreen for targetting as well as zoom mode control.  The initial release will feature eight stages, with more to come in future updates.  Progress in the game will be rewarded by unlocked images and wallpaper from the Metal Gear series.

That sounds shit.
I do not think the Iphone could do a Successful MGS game.
A Metal Gear Ac!d game, Fine, Easy. But not a fully Blown one.
Something Like Metal Gear or Ghost Babel probably.
This news is dissapointing that its just going to be a Lightgun game.
The Silent Hill game seems about the same aswell.


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I am not surprised or disappointed that it is just a shooting gallery, but it is a little silly that this announcement was actually hyped.  It's along the lines of other throw-away mobile versions of big-name games.

I am really skeptical of the iPhone as a gaming device because there isn't really much option for input.  You can click and there is a tilt sensor, but that's not enough for most types of games.  I am surprised there isn't more buzz about the Google phone as a gaming device because it seems to me like the same thing but a little more appropriate for gaming.
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This is an unfiar criticism because I am pretty sure that the game was supposed to come off as "REALLY Japanese" and that feeling like you were "watching fucking anime" was sort of the point.
But none of the other games felt like this at all.  And until about 3/4 the way through MGS4, it didn't feel like anime at all.  It just sort of came out of nowhere. 
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http://toucharcade.com/2008/12/18/more-metal-gear-solid-touch-details/

Well, this got lame quickly.  It's just going to be a shooting game.  You turn Snake to aim and shoot, and that's it. 
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Is the name official? Metal Gear SOLID TOUCH?
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Is the name official? Metal Gear SOLID TOUCH?
If the name of the game is your biggest concern, you'll probably end up enjoying this game.
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go on baby touch my Solid Snake  :naughty:
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Hmmm, could be worse, I think it could work I mean brothers in arms was a decent i-phone shooter even with the limited controls. It convinced me that a shooter could work when done right.
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I think that apple trying to sell their iphone as a gaming platform is a huge crock of shit. The one you see advertised is "super monkey ball" which is one application of an accelerometer as directional control. Fantastic, love it, sure fire hit of a gimmick.

Ok so what about games that require buttons? Imagine you're holding an iphone horizontally. You have the power to tilt the device and you have your two thumbs to inaccurately mash whatever is placed in the vicinity of the left and right sides of the screen.

How is a shooting gallery game even going to work? Would you feel okay about spending £35 per month on a contract phone then playing the casual gamer's equivalent of whack-a-mole as you attempt to stealthily shoot some grunts on the screen.

No. No. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Get a slim phone and a nintendo DS, secure them together with superglue. If that doesn't give you the sense of wellbeing an iPhone would then spray the bottom half silver and put an apple sticker on it so that your friends know you're serious about style and technology.
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I think that apple trying to sell their iphone as a gaming platform is a huge crock of shit. The one you see advertised is "super monkey ball" which is one application of an accelerometer as directional control. Fantastic, love it, sure fire hit of a gimmick.

Ok so what about games that require buttons? Imagine you're holding an iphone horizontally. You have the power to tilt the device and you have your two thumbs to inaccurately mash whatever is placed in the vicinity of the left and right sides of the screen.

How is a shooting gallery game even going to work? Would you feel okay about spending £35 per month on a contract phone then playing the casual gamer's equivalent of whack-a-mole as you attempt to stealthily shoot some grunts on the screen.

No. No. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Get a slim phone and a nintendo DS, secure them together with superglue. If that doesn't give you the sense of wellbeing an iPhone would then spray the bottom half silver and put an apple sticker on it so that your friends know you're serious about style and technology.
Okay, this argument is full of holes. 

- The iPod Touch and iPhone are gaming platforms.  Super monkey ball isn't the only game on it, as there are many others that use the accelerometer is even more creative ways. 

- The systems have a touch screen, so they can put the buttons wherever they want.  Having used the iPod touch a lot, I can say that it's actually quite comfortable and easy to use.  I had more trouble working with the DS because it had the touch screen (requiring a stylus, not a finger) and buttons.  The DS is incredibly awkward to use for a lot of games that require a lot of movement.

- There are already shooting gallery games on the iPod Touch and iPhone.  You tap the screen to shoot, and some use the accelerometer to aim.  It's actually really neat, and I find it easier to do than playing an FPS on a console (Why are FPSs on consoles?).

- You don't pay a monthly fee to use the iPod Touch.  I don't recommend the iPhone at all, though I can't speak from experience using it, but I highly recommend the iPod Touch.  There's a lot more to it than just games, but there's no reason good, quality games can't exist on it. 

- The Nintendo DS is an inferior console.  The games that have been released for it are mostly shit.  I'm not saying there aren't a few gems, but considering the price of each game ($30 usually), it's just not worth it.  Games on the iPod Touch are rarely more than $9.99.  Most games cost between $.99 and $3.99.  Also there are a ton of free games, all of which can be downloaded directly to the system via wi-fi. 

I'm not saying MGS Touch is going to be a good game, but holy crap everything you said was wrong.
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- The iPod Touch and iPhone are gaming platforms.  Super monkey ball isn't the only game on it, as there are many others that use the accelerometer is even more creative ways. 

Just out of curiosity, do you consider all (relatively new) phones gaming platforms?  Because I don't see how you could see the iPod/iPhone as one and not all newer phones.
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Okay, this argument is full of holes. 

- The iPod Touch and iPhone are gaming platforms.  Super monkey ball isn't the only game on it, as there are many others that use the accelerometer is even more creative ways. 
i was playing super mario bros 3 on my HTC Touch, it must get MGS Touch too

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- The systems have a touch screen, so they can put the buttons wherever they want.  Having used the iPod touch a lot, I can say that it's actually quite comfortable and easy to use.  I had more trouble working with the DS because it had the touch screen (requiring a stylus, not a finger) and buttons.  The DS is incredibly awkward to use for a lot of games that require a lot of movement.
having used an ipod touch a lot also I must say whever they place the buttons

it fucking sucks takes up parts of the screen or just feels INCREDIBLY FUCKING AWKWARD

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- There are already shooting gallery games on the iPod Touch and iPhone.  You tap the screen to shoot, and some use the accelerometer to aim.  It's actually really neat, and I find it easier to do than playing an FPS on a console (Why are FPSs on consoles?).

i agree lets move FPS to the iphone and my htc touch, i can play halo ont eh go!!!!!!

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- You don't pay a monthly fee to use the iPod Touch.  I don't recommend the iPhone at all, though I can't speak from experience using it, but I highly recommend the iPod Touch.  There's a lot more to it than just games, but there's no reason good, quality games can't exist on it. 
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- The Nintendo DS is an inferior console.  The games that have been released for it are mostly shit.  I'm not saying there aren't a few gems, but considering the price of each game ($30 usually), it's just not worth it.  Games on the iPod Touch are rarely more than $9.99.  Most games cost between $.99 and $3.99.  Also there are a ton of free games, all of which can be downloaded directly to the system via wi-fi. 

hahaha have you played the ds? they are at least FULL games, there are LOTS O' GOOD GAMES(lots of good remakes??)

you are absolutely ridiculous

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I'm not saying MGS Touch is going to be a good game, but holy crap everything you said was wrong.
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hahahaha xanqui trying to convince people tapping a non existant button where the controller and the screen are one and the same is BETTER than a console FPS.

ps no, I've played fps games on the touch, they kinda suck.
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hey, rail shooters could be done on a phone but only really with machine guns(u would just have to keep your finger on the touch screen, simple), thats why i am partly sceptical on the whole "Metal Gear Touch" kind of thing. What if you have to use a handgun? A sniper Rifle? consecutively tapping would be kind of a repetitive chore after a while...
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fyi zooming in is fucking ridiculous. like it's neat for maps and hires images, but doing it during gameplay, fuck it, not doable. xanqui is kinda talking out of his ass. there are neat little games and all sorts of cool apps and I'm considering upgrading to a touch this christmas (I've got an old bulky ipod that doesn't display pics or vids SO) but calling it a gaming device is the kind of dumb shit only hideo believes.
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You can't play a game properly without REAL buttons. That's why consoles don't have shitty touchscreen controllers because they are about as ergonomic as dog shit. Everyone knows this and it is impossible to argue otherwise!

84 million units in sales kinda makes the NDS.... generally liked?