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I went to a protest rally yesterday

it was pretty lame actually
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Nobody said it does

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PS the kind of people they're targetting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizar_Rayan



Truth do you really think they're freedom fighters???

What would you prefer? They can't fight with conventionaly means because they are a starving and disparate people who are being starved to death and slowly killed off through apartheid. If my family and friend were being starved to death and treated like animals, my sister had malaria because of the kind of water was in the warsaw style ghetto i lived in, and my mother was dying of preventable diseases that could be cured if only UN medicine was allowed through the blockade then I am pretty sure I would do the same thing.

So yes they are freedom fighters
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There's one thing I really hate about Israel, They start calling arabs terrorists but isn't what there doing themselves terrorism.
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What would you prefer? They can't fight with conventionaly means because they are a starving and disparate people who are being starved to death and slowly killed off through apartheid. If my family and friend were being starved to death and treated like animals, my sister had malaria because of the kind of water was in the warsaw style ghetto i lived in, and my mother was dying of preventable diseases that could be cured if only UN medicine was allowed through the blockade then I am pretty sure I would do the same thing.

So yes they are freedom fighters

I'd prefer they acknowledge they have no chance against merkava tanks and find another way to solve their problems that doesn't involve suicide bombing and anything else that will just get their own people killed
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the truce was enough to bring the palestines out from their bomb shelters...................

fuck the israeli millitary leaders and also fuck hamas

also fuck the truth for thinking hamas is any better than the israelites.

also go the palestine and the israeli people. they're the ones having to bear the burden of this bullshit, though the weight is obviously heavier on the palestines.

but yeah jews are getting harassed here it is dumb as fuck and one-sided bastards like the truth is the reason why. hamas are bastards too and the israeli millitary does not represent the israeli people nor the jews.

violence is the problem; not the solution.

also shout out to mads gilbert & erik fosse. im ashamed of norwegian right-wings trying to put mads gilbert's credibility under doubt on the basis of his communist ties. fuck right-wing nuts.
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lars hamas is better than israel because they did not kill a fuckton of people.

I mean this is the forum that said HOLOCAUST: WORST THING EVER, I am pretty sure you guys don't equate shooting a sugar (suGAR sugarSugAR) rocket into one Israeli with basically ethnic cleansing of sorts.

BUT THEY WOULD DO THE SAME yeah but they didn't, come on people, dwell in reality with me a bit!!!
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Israel are trying to focus on military targets, therefore any civilian deaths are equal in terms of morality to the accidental deaths of Iraqi civilians when America/Britain aims to hit military targets and doesn't. So before people start throwing around statements like "illegal airstrikes", perhaps we should look at our own actions first. Also, unlike America/Britain, Israel actually has very good intelligence and tends to hit the military targets it is gunning for. The civilian deaths are tragic, obviously, but they are not intentional. Equally, if it wasn't for the fact that Hamas purposefully puts these military targets in civilian areas then civilians wouldn't be getting killed at all (again, just like in Iraq). Hamas clearly don't understand that you can't fire missiles at another country's civilians and then say "You can't fire at us because you'll hit civilians". If Hamas want to attack Israel for the wrongs they percieve are being done against them then they should do it in a way that doesn't endanger non-combatants; by endangering non-combatants on purpose they lose all footing in an argument of morality. Basically, Hamas are bringing this on the Gazan(?) people by purposefully using civilians as human shields, so the blame lays squarely on them.

As for Israel's actions in general, I fully support them. I know that if someone was firing missiles (however shitty) at England I would want the RAF to try and take out those missile sites. Israel is protecting its own civilians and has the right to do that, whether or not the missiles are accurate/technologically sound isn't the issue.

Also, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter", so stop arguing which of the two Hamas are.
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hahaha i fully support the murder of 500+ people for no reason other than some dudes shot a sugar rocket and killed a soldier EXCELLENT.

suGAR SUGAR sugarSUgar.
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a member of the Black Panther party killed an officer with a broken 40 today. in response, we have carpet bombed Harlem. now everyone is safe. those blacks who stayed behind should have moved to Queens.

edit: seriously how dumb are you to fully support any action that leads to the death of students? I'm not even saying I THINK THEY DID THE RIGHT THING, full support means heh it's okay kill the ragheads.
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but yeah jews are getting harassed here it is dumb as fuck and one-sided bastards like the truth is the reason why. hamas are bastards too and the israeli millitary does not represent the israeli people nor the jews.

So true. In France, a car with 3 molotov cocktails in it was launched in a synagogue. Thankfully it was during the night and the 3 people that were in it escaped but damn, let's not go around blaming whole religions for the acts of a few crazy bastards.
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So true. In France, a car with 3 molotov cocktails in it was launched in a synagogue. Thankfully it was during the night and the 3 people that were in it escaped but damn, let's not go around blaming whole religions for the acts of a few crazy bastards.

While that's true and completely despicable, people should remember that this issue is between palestinians and israeli's, not muslims and jews, heck I'm a muslim and I hold jews as true people of God's word, just as I hold Christians as the people of God. I have no problem at all with Jews and Christians, what I have a problem with is the terrorist state of Israel.
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You know, Doktormartini has been strangely absent from this topic.
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hahaha i fully support the murder of 500+ people for no reason other than some dudes shot a sugar rocket and killed a soldier EXCELLENT.

they have been launching missiles at major cities in israel for about two years, i dont think the situation is anywhere near as black and white as you guys are portraying it.  did everyone forget about suicide bombers or something?
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Afura: 8 years, but no major cities.
Steel: You're just being rhetoric to justify your stand, killing a person (a civilian, by the way) with a spoon make it any better.

I hope this stupid war will get over with and that both sides could make progress using WORDS instead of blood.
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lars hamas is better than israel because they did not kill a fuckton of people.

BUT THEY WOULD DO THE SAME yeah but they didn't, come on people, dwell in reality with me a bit!!!

Intentions should weigh more than consequences.
You can't forgive someone a murder attempt just because it failed. Hamas is deliberately targeting civilians and that's just completely unforgivable. The saddest shit is, Israel isn't doing any better, and they even hit what they want. So yeah, basically I agree, Israelites are the worst, as consequences have weight as well, but Hamas (at least the militant part, I don't know how loose or tight an organization it is) ain't far behind.

And this "they're defending their own country the best way they can" shit should be shoved back where it came from. That's fucking civilians they are shooting at. Aim that suGArSugAR at some IDF guys and I'm completely fine with it. They shouldn't be that hard to find at the moment.

EDIT: Just overheard that they're negotiating some kind of truce now and held a 3h cease fire today to get some humanitarian aid into Gaza. Have to check the news.
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You know the Arabs fired rockets at Israeli kindergartens and nursery schools in the past few years. Israeli intelligence is just good enough to defend themselves, if their intention was to kill and they were putting my family in danger no doubt would I retaliate. Suicide bombers in major cities also anyone? Everyone is living in constant fear and gets searched at every shop, mall and bus. There isn't a simple good or bad side.

Read the arab suicide bombing history and then try act like there is a clear good and bad side, and yes children are often killed in these attacks: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm A few of the attacks Hamas have claimed responsibility for so yes they are terrorists for everyone claiming that people are just saying it because 'they are brown'.

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QassamCount Jan 6, 2009: Hamas fired 34 rockets & mortar shells at Israel, bringing total to 8621 since the year 2000!

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You know the Arabs fired rockets at Israeli kindergartens and nursery schools in the past few years. Israeli intelligence is just good enough to defend themselves, if their intention was to kill and they were putting my family in danger no doubt would I retaliate. Suicide bombers in major cities also anyone? Everyone is living in constant fear and gets searched at every shop, mall and bus. There isn't a simple good or bad side.

Read the arab suicide bombing history and then try act like there is a clear good and bad side, and yes children are often killed in these attacks: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm A few of the attacks Hamas have claimed responsibility for so yes they are terrorists for everyone claiming that people are just saying it because 'they are brown'.



You can't possibly say that and then go on to say that Israel isn't a terrorist state, if Israel bombs children because a terrorist organization does so, then that makes Israel no better than Hamas. Also, Hamas is performing these unforgiveable atrocities because of the terrorism that Israel is constantly putting on Palestine, Israel came into Palestine and called it their own, not the other way around.
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