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Wow, finally through with that whole bullshit process.  I swear I was asked my mother's maiden name like 50 times throughout the day.

My recruiter signed me on as Caucasian / "American Indian/Alaskan Native" (unbeknown to me) because  he doesn't believe in the whole racial preference thing (where jobs get filled by less qualified minorities, just to fill a quota).  And every American is probably at least 1% Native American.


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Thanks for the heads up.  Just going through MEPS and talking to my recruiter through the 4 hour drive really did open my eyes a bit more to how things work.  A frat house really does describe the system in place.  You can go through qualifications, paperwork, clearances blah blah blah, but it really comes down to who you know.  My recruiter is a YN1 so he can get anyone pretty much anything they want within reason.

I like your attitude as far as the whole system being pretty damn stupid, but the opportunities are just there for the taking.  My government is hemorrhaging money into pointless projects, I might as well take what I can while I'm young and have a better future later on.  I think once I tough it out in boot camp, I'll have a good time with this.  And I surely won't miss a single port of call for anything.  I can't fathom someone sitting back and playing vidya games when they're basically on a short vacation in Asia, Australia, or Europe.
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My recruiter signed me on as Caucasian / "American Indian/Alaskan Native" (unbeknown to me) because  he doesn't believe in the whole racial preference thing (where jobs get filled by less qualified minorities, just to fill a quota)
Your recruiter is an idiot
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Your recruiter is an idiot

Like I said, he's a Yeoman, basically someone whose life revolves around paperwork  He gets paid to play around with the system.

Marcus, where are you currently stationed?
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Like I said, he's a Yeoman, basically someone whose life revolves around paperwork  He gets paid to play around with the system.

Marcus, where are you currently stationed?

bremerton on the uss emory s land, finest rust bucket in the navy.  it's a sub tender that's being converted to half msc and we'll be heading to guam next year to support civilian ships or something

and i thought you'd be on the bus to boot camp.  when is your swear in date?
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ooohhhh you might be working with that fleet thats around the yellow sea

thats cool I guess more recon shit I'm guessing the civilian ships will be like the half MSC/company shit I was with. I don't see why they would have a tender like that working with tankers/container ships unless if would be part of some kind of defense patrol thingy.
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bremerton on the uss emory s land, finest rust bucket in the navy.  it's a sub tender that's being converted to half msc and we'll be heading to guam next year to support civilian ships or something

and i thought you'd be on the bus to boot camp.  when is your swear in date?

naw, i'm already sworn in and have my contract for the ET field, but the soonest opening for the school will put me in boot camp in october (holy shit).  however, i'm going DAR which will let me take the place of any aspiring ET who can't ship out when they're expected to (death in family, injury, etc).  navy is at capacity or over capacity right now, so they're not "sailorizing" as fast as they used to i guess.  Shit, if i had enlisted a month earlier i'd have that $10k bonus and would be well on my way to basic.
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oh yeah, i mentioned this in the inauguration topic but once obama was sworn in he basically stamped a paper that said "CUT EVERY MILITARY ORGANIZATION IN HALF"

edit: well actually he's continuing with bush's downsizing except extending it to the army and marines.  once operation kill the brown people started, bush raised the requirements to join any branch that didn't have you firing a gun on a daily basis.
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I really don't see the appeal in joining a force that will basically make you infantry and little or nothing else.  I guess American culture somehow glorifies that, when in reality you can expect to see your bros or yourself shot or blown up.  It's not pretty at all.  You see those photos/videos of dudes who survived IEDs and their faces are all fucking melted and shit. 

I guess somebody has to do it, but somehow I think all these young guys are misled into it.
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ironically more people in the armed forces die from accidents than the enemy. 

you actually have to fear the guy with the gun behind you than the moslom spraying ak fire everywhere.
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man now you're making me feel like an asshole
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i'm just saying, that's what is happening on the ground right now.  it's not some glorious battle, its american military overstepping their means, pissed-off iraqis doing their thing, mainly IED's and guerrilla tacics, both sides suffer.  The respective powers try to say its an affront to freedom or a religious thing, but it's all stupid politics.  It never had anything to do with religion or ideology.  Both sides have been hypocritical. 
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Oh yeah I know that.

but I can't help but feel really badly when I see those fucked up faces. Its just like looking at the pictures of the gaza strip bombing victims, you can't help but look at it and be like "awwww fuck :(​". And I'm not saying its the same situation, I get the same wrench in my gut.
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a common phrase in the armed forces is "no one held a gun up to your head" in regards to signing the contract.  we all knew what we were getting into when we signed up.  no one is 100% safe regardless of branch.  there have been attacks against ships by eco terrorists in the past 10 years.
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a common phrase in the armed forces is "no one held a gun up to your head" in regards to signing the contract.  we all knew what we were getting into when we signed up.  no one is 100% safe regardless of branch.  there have been attacks against ships by eco terrorists in the past 10 years.

I'd heard of Green Peace getting a wild hair up their ass, but nothing serious as far as ecoterrorism.  You mean like violent attacks?  It's kind of ironic because I've heard that Navy ships are pretty ecologically sound when compared to cruise liners or any other commercial vessel.
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er, no enlisted person (the ones actually on the front lines) believe in a higher cause and those that do change their minds the moment they're in the field.  people join because A) they're bored B) money/education, or C) experience.

this is a necessary evil; not because we're fighting "evil men" but because if there weren't volunteers then service would be mandatory.  

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I'd heard of Green Peace getting a wild hair up their ass, but nothing serious as far as ecoterrorism.  You mean like violent attacks?  It's kind of ironic because I've heard that Navy ships are pretty ecologically sound when compared to cruise liners or any other commercial vessel.

there are hundreds of strict rules on ecology that we have to follow but there have been times the ship was stalked by green peace or other crazies in boats, violent attacks against sailors out in town, and whenever they protest sometimes (rarely but there's always a chance) they'll toss rocks, harass people going in and out of gates, and vandalize shit.  In general, protestors keep things civilized but whenever booze is involved...

The same can't be said for international organizations.  There have been accounts of riots on piers in foreign countries.
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I've never heard of that

Like I've seen the annual reports for mishaps at sea or whatever (its online somewhere) and I never saw anything about that. I guess they just mainly fuck with the navy fleet but I could def be wrong about that.

They don't fuck with no merchant marines we'll straight up hose their asses

but thats about it.....

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The same can't be said for international organizations.  There have been accounts of riots on piers in foreign countries.

I def believe and have heard about this though. When some idiot marine kidnapped an underage japanese girl in Okinawa (I'm pretty sure thats where it was) they wouldn't let us ashore for a few weeks because the japanese people were protesting (power to them) about the US bases over there and them doing dumb shit, everyone was afraid of exactly what you're talking about...
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