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16
87 51.5%
-16
67 39.6%
I don't know how to do this math
15 8.9%

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Poll -4^2 (Read 10413 times)

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rethinking that post as I posted it. fuck you guys I am not cut out for maths.
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.999... DOES NOT EQUAL TO 1
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.999... DOES NOT EQUAL TO 1

fuck you for not voting.
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√-16
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the real answer is -15.999...               ... (these last three are the SUSPENSEFUL ELLIPSES)
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Voting 16 because bodmas can suck my dick
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√-16
-1*√16=-4
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holy shit i was right.



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-1*√16=-4

more like i√4
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i wonder whether paulc knows the truth by now

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lol goldenratio's a computer programmer - i hope that was a joke vote
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I don't get why anyone would see it as 16
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Because they see it as -4 * -4 = 16
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Yeah, they don't understand that unary - is an operator too, and that exponent has higher precedence than unary negation.

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Man of all the POTWs I did, THIS ONE was the most active. Probably because it was most easily debateable, but christ it was like 250 replies long by the end of the week when most POTWs were lucky to see like 50.

Also yes it's a pretty easy mistake to make. I don't get people who say they don't get why someone would make this mistake. :fogetbackflip:
Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 08:13:56 pm by Rowain
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I'll admit it

I'm terrible at math

so what, sue me
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fuck you for not voting.

jeez fine

(i thought every highschool math class went over this?)
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I thought it was just common sense.
The way you guys are speaking is going way over my head. Isn't unary something to do with pissing?
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Because it is. - signs don't imply multiplication. They imply a modification of the number to any normal person. A negative four is a negative four and in every math class I've taken has been treated that way and you put -(4^2) to imply otherwise.
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lol goldenratio's a computer programmer - i hope that was a joke vote
PS. logic is much more important than knowing some specific rules of maths in programming. The -4^2 thing is not a "of course! it's so logical" thing. It's something that must be taught, because I would say that it's just as logical to think -4^2 is 16 than it's -16, if you don't know about the unary negation and its precedence in relation to other operators. It's not THAT terrible that people think -4^2 is 16 (it's a bit sad), what is terrible is that there are people who absolutely REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT, even if they're shown proof, and continue to argue that it's 16, which happened in the previous -4^2 topic.

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it's probably just people who see -4 as a single number and not -1*4. After that you just got order of operations which maybe people don't know?
It is a single number really. Real numbers can be negative as well. It's just that a number can contain an operator in it. Although -4 yields same result as -1*4, it doesn't mean that you're supposed to expand it to that everytime you see it, although it does help you to illustrate the issue at hand. The reason why -4^2 is -16 is because the little "-" before 4 is an operator of its own, and it has its own precedence. If you used the logic that -4 is -1*4, then -1*4 would be -1*1*4, and that would be -1*1*1*4 etc.

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The way you guys are speaking is going way over my head. Isn't unary something to do with pissing?
Unary means that it takes a single operand. Operators like addition, subtraction, multiplying and division are binary operators, which means that they take two operands.
Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 08:24:51 pm by ramirez

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common sense is 99.999...% bullshit
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