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#401 February 22, 2009, 05:06:53 pm

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Quote from: larsdood on February 22, 2009, 01:52:22 pm

everyone knows integration dude. i'd be shocked if there was a single member apart from S4D or something that can't do it.

is this a joke

do you honestly think everyone has taken a calculus course? why do you people do this stupid *pfft EVERYONE KNOWS THAT* shit?

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#402 February 22, 2009, 05:11:03 pm

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yeah lars you're dumb as hell. we have members in this topic who said MATH IS OPTIONAL after like seventh grade. idk if dx thinks the same way but the fact that Joe's in environmental science and I'm in political science and we both knew how to do integrals is more of a testament to how awesome we are (we own), not that integrals are basic math. most humanities majors never take even a pre-calc.

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#403 February 22, 2009, 05:12:04 pm

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and before you scoff and say UM THATS DUMB realize that calculus is completely worthless. seriously I was struggling to make a list of reasons why you should know algebra even and I had to include IMPRESS DUMB COLLEGE GIRLS and ITS ON THE GRE.

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#404 February 22, 2009, 05:15:53 pm

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man I was just kidding around I didn't think it was that hard to do(but props for knowing integration, I always thought poli sci was kinda.....Yeah)

But yeah esiann you too man, I was just kidding around

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#405 February 22, 2009, 05:17:20 pm

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in norway you take multivariable calc 4, dynamical systems, and chaos theory before you learn to read

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#406 February 22, 2009, 05:18:54 pm

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dumb college are impressed by SMOKE RINGS and BEER CAN ARTWORK

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#407 February 22, 2009, 05:23:17 pm

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for real though it is kind of sad that the kid in your math class saying I'LL NEVER USE THIS AND NO ONE WILL THINK I'M COOL FOR IT AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN REALLY DWELL ABOUT AFTER CLASS is completely right for almost all high school math. seriously geometric proofs might teach you a bit about logic and calc might enhance your analytical abilities but then these are probably small increases and still mostly MATH things and don't help doctors/lawyers/biologists too much.

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#408 February 22, 2009, 05:32:49 pm

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Quote from: dragonx on February 22, 2009, 05:15:53 pm

man I was just kidding around I didn't think it was that hard to do(but props for knowing integration, I always thought poli sci was kinda.....Yeah)

But yeah esiann you too man, I was just kidding around

ok

but what if you have to figure out the peak volume & time achieved if given in-flow and out-flow rates and a piecewise. what. if.

i think the last time my teachers really tried to make a case for kind of higher math having real-life applications was in trig with roofing. but calc sure makes me feel good about myself

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#409 February 22, 2009, 05:33:36 pm

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man, all this calculus talk makes me want to read tintin again

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#410 February 22, 2009, 05:40:44 pm

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ba-english, creative writing, math requirements:

01   GRP 801   MATHEMATICS   3.00
02   GRP 802   MATH/STATISTICS/LOGIC   3.00

here is an example of an 801:

MA 103   Topics in Contemporary Mathematics   UNITS: 3 - Offered in Spring Only
Prerequisite: MA 101 or equivalent completed in high school
Primarily for students in Humanities and Social Sciences. Illustrations of contemporary uses of mathematics, varying from semester to semester, frequently including sets and logic, counting procedures, probability, modular arithmetic, and game theory.

ma101 is alg1 and 2 from high school. heres another math:

MA 105   Mathematics of Finance   UNITS: 3 - Offered in Fall Spring Summer
Prerequisite: MA 101 or equivalent completed in high school
Simple and compound interest, annuities and their application to amortization and sinking fund problems, installment buying, calculation of premiums of life annuities and life insurance

802 is a statistics or logic class.

poli sci ba is about the same thing, so is soc, spanish, criminology, international relations, religious studies, and pretty much every non-bachelor of science degree. apparently even then, poultry science only requires PRE-calc. calculus is not some kind of EVERYONE KNOWS dude I don't know why lars said so.

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#411 February 22, 2009, 05:43:21 pm

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calculus is used with physics lol

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#412 February 22, 2009, 05:44:28 pm

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but really i'm sitting in calculus II right now and i'm bewildered

like i mean, i am awesome with it, practically have the shit comes to me while most of my classmates are confused as fuck. but it's really annoying doing all the sums and series and shit.

i've yet to find a reasonable thing that calculus can help you with.

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#413 February 22, 2009, 05:45:27 pm

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what if you want to find the maximized volume for a box!

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#414 February 22, 2009, 05:47:43 pm

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Quote from: dragonx on February 22, 2009, 05:45:27 pm

what if you want to find the maximized volume for a box!

i'd just take the volume of it as i would never need more than this.

oh wait you mean when you make the box! I guess but who needs to make a box anyways? like ever? has anyone here ever MADE a box? I mean constructed it, not like it was flattened and you folded it out. and if you have did you care about the maximum volume?

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#415 February 22, 2009, 05:51:50 pm

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I'd hope not, I for one really dont care if its maximized volume, just if it fits whatever im tyring to put in

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#416 February 22, 2009, 05:54:29 pm

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calc word problems are hilarious.

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#417 February 22, 2009, 05:55:43 pm

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a cone floating in space is filling with a deadly acid how long until everything dies

i think we had darth vader ones

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#418 February 22, 2009, 06:10:50 pm

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a huge portion of the word problems in my calc book in high school were about cancer except none of the real results had anything to do with cancer, it was just a poorly tacked on theme for them because the author's wife had it so it made NO SENSE when you actually read it

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#419 February 22, 2009, 06:30:01 pm

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Quote from: Magical Negro on February 22, 2009, 05:12:04 pm

and before you scoff and say UM THATS DUMB realize that calculus is completely worthless. seriously I was struggling to make a list of reasons why you should know algebra even and I had to include IMPRESS DUMB COLLEGE GIRLS and ITS ON THE GRE.

it's not as useless as, say, LINGUISTIC ALGEBRA (yes it exists). besides, as an engineer student, i use integrals a lot, within the fields of curcuit theory and statistics mostly, or using fourier transforms within the field of pictoral techniques. I do get what you mean that it's not useful in real life (Except as mathematical basis for the joke "Why can't x group be integrated? BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO FUNCTION!! HO-HO"), but so is pretty much every field of study ever. If you're studying anything related to technology, however, it's pretty much one of your best aids.

Anyway, I was (no joke) under the impression that integration is high school material in most countries? Obviously I am mistaken, but normal integration is pretty low-level calculus (and low-level calculus is high-school syllabus as far as I know in most countries). Also ase Norwegian education is at a lower level than most countries, and we learn integrating in high school, so that's why I assumed they did it in other countries too.

Though yeah, I did not seriously think that everyone here knew it! I'm roughly assuming a bit more than half of gw are capable of doing it though (of the members that are out of high school, of course).

Also

environmental science

This sounds like a pretty math-heavy study to me?? At least the ones who take it here (although it's called Energy & Environmental Science) have to take a shitload of physics and mathematics.

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#420 February 22, 2009, 06:35:20 pm

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Anyway, I was (no joke) under the impression that integration is high school material in most countries? Obviously I am mistaken, but normal integration is pretty low-level calculus (and low-level calculus is high-school syllabus as far as I know in most countries)

its not, it's an optional high school class that gives you college credit in the States. I think you only have to top out at trig to graduate. what do you mean by a lower level? the US is pretty low and apparently in Britain you don't even have to take math after a number of years. if you mean TOP 15 COUNTRIES then fuck you dude that's not a low level (either that or your other subjects are all just atrocious so all norwegians can integrate but dont know who shakespeare is).

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If you're studying anything related to technology, however, it's pretty much one of your best aids.

none of my ee, cpe, or csc friends ever use calculus with any regularity and they work for like redhat and sas. they make you do it in school but it's pretty worthless in the real world.

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