Yeah alright man, your argument is a lot stronger than mine, I'll give you that. I don't really have much of an argument at all actually.

Alec pretty much summed it up:

really you should have just made a topic asking for good casual games that way it doesn't come off as like I can't take a break from gaming need to game between gaming

CASUAL GAMES. That's what I'm after.

also for someone who is a "frequent reader" ya sure don't read well. first you said I DONT WANT TO READ I'LL GET INVESTED and then when I bring up lots of things that won't invest you for longer than the five or ten minutes you get mad and say UGH I READ ENOUGH ignoring the whole investment thing which previously you brought up.

Not really what I was getting at here. Like I said, sometimes I wanna read, and when I do, I'll sit down and read for a fair chunk of time. Other times, I'll feel like just killing some time with some games, not really reading something.

they came off a bit culture coppy because that's exactly what I'm doing, reading in my free time. if I've got a torrent going or I'm waiting for the mail or it's like 20 minutes till some show I read a book or browse GW. I was unaware this was a high class activity or something that made me superior in any way. However I do believe it is superior to a few activities. minesweeper. some forms of jerking off. fanfiction.

THREE MINUTES you could chillax and listen to one fucking song in that time

I don't know if you're kidding or not but yeah how is three minutes enough time to do anything but listen to a song or read a poem or whatever? that's so short and I can't imagine short orgiastic bursts of Puzzle Quest are really just a good use of time either. you could just sit still and let your thoughts wander for three minutes.

Zbigniew Brezezinski

i fucking hate his daughter

you could just sit still and let your thoughts wander for three minutes.

So many people underestimate how interesting just THINKING can be. If you've got a half decent imagination you can literally sit in the same place (it's even better when walking) for hours or minutes just reflecting on things, as well as constructing narratives, ideas for art or something similar in your head.

I don't think it's fair to compare The Incredible Machine to Minesweeper btw

I have never once seen one person with such a vendetta against minesweeper...

You are ridiculous. Why do you care that he doesn't use 10 minutes of filler time to stretch his legs instead of playing Minesweeper?

I never even said this but are you really suggesting ten minutes of exercise is not better than ten minutes of minesweeper? ya sure that shitty gamesmasterjasper comic isn't what you really think? gotta maximize games.

like idk if you guys are getting this seeing as how you keep suggesting spelunky or adventure games but the appeal of these games is how they drag you in, not that you die really quick. I only played Spelunky for like five minutes the first time and didn't touch it for a long time after. because five minutes is nothing! are you seriously telling him to play just one level of Spelunky? REALLY? is that how you played, ten minutes at a time and then putting it down?

orrrrrr was it such a fun game you played it way over ten minutes?

the point you're not getting is that games which can engross you for over ten minutes usually DO. even flash games rarely have levels set so you can beat one in ten minutes and then drop it. it's because game devs don't like these games and they don't want to make them.

now he's changed his topic to casual games, which is fine, because games like Spelunky may not be works of art but they are fun, and they are very pick up and play, and they might invest you for thirty minutes. but games you can actually play and enjoy in five minutes have the same enjoyment as coloring by the numbers and wordsearches. if anything I'm arguing that if he's going to play a game he should sit down and do it because most games do not progress as quickly as chapters in a book or a song. people didn't play to the end of Act I Scene I in Sonic before putting it down, they played till you beat Robotnik for the first time because that's the REAL end of the chapter. doing otherwise is stilted, like watching a movie and paushing thirty minutes to do something else every ten minutes.

I am of the firm belief that the type of game that is designed to be enjoyed in five minutes was designed to counter more boring busy work, like actually spreadsheets and database garbage, not for play when you have other things you can do. as a result, I'm hardpressed to think of one that doesn't at least try to sucker you into playing more (compare a roguelike's multiple pathways to minesweeper's simple either you click or you dont win or lose gameplay)

obviously I am not irritated with ChristophiiggmufgdgdPHIMOSIS as much as I am interested in why he said what he said, and why other people didn't think it was strange! this is not a personal attack, I don't know the dude well enough to attack him and even if I did I wouldn't over this issue. I just have never in my life thought while a game was loading or installing "hmm you know what I can do, I can play another game!" unless I was at work where options are way limited during business hours.

Tower Defense games?

Mostly I am with steel on this, i hate the fact I waste most of my life playing games, rather than making music or whatever.

BUT if you do want a game to play for 5 mins then Psychosomnium is my only suggestion. As has already been said, most other games draw you in and get you addicted. Since psychosomnium has very little replay value, it is a perfect choice. Plus, its really conceptual and will make you think and shit.

EDIT: Huh, it sounds like i'm slagging this game off, but i'm not :P It really is a great game.

guess you've never heard of AMVs

uh whats the problem with minesweeper? if you try to solve them fast it's pretty good mental training in pattern recognition. it's WAY better than random youtube videos

this is true actually, dont be dissing minesweeper. Same goes about that DS game hobomaster was on about.