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kill two birds with one stone, check out your local busking laws. busy days you can get a really decent amount and it may be tax free (check this out first).
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yo it's pretty easy to lie/make up shit on your resume.  if thats what you need to do to make it look like you've got work experience, do it.  also, are you talking to managers when you're applying?  if you fill out an application, don't leave until you've talked to a manager and if you can try to do an interview right then and there.  this of course also means that you shouldn't be going into a place during their rush, either.  but for the most part, they take applications, throw them in a stack and never look at them again, so if you want a job, just applying isn't good enough.

you need to apply and then say HEY LEMME TALK TO A MANAGER and then be like yeah i really need/want a job and here is my experience (make shit up) and here are the hours i can work (lie, you can always change your availability once you're in the door).  then hopefully if they're even hiring at all to begin with and the dude has time and you've made it seem like you have experience and can work flexible hours, they'll give you an interview you can bullshit your way through and then bam you're hired!!  but if you just submit your application without following up before leaving, they'll probably never call you back.  also ofc ya have to make it seem like you're eager to work in whatever random shithole you're applying at
Last Edit: March 25, 2009, 09:36:15 am by headphonics
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Volunteer some places and show em' your stuff.
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online job boards are good, but most of the ones i'm looking at are either for summer or graduates. there are probably plenty of basic full-time positions though
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i go to a community college, so commuting is the only option. i've already applied twice to work in the bookstore and the food place, no luck
best time to apply to these places is at the end of the term saying that you want to work next term because thats when most of their staff leaves (at the end of the term) this is how I got my job working in the food place at school
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well yeah most of the larger chain stores just make you fill out (practically an identical) online application. honestly i think i've filled out that same application for like 10 different chain stores. i wish i could just save it and send it out to all of them at once :(

Here's your problem. Go there and fill the application at the chain store and try to give you CV to whoever is responsible of hiring. It shows you're interested in the job.
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My CV was pretty terrible so I decided to volunteer at the local charity shop while looking for work, its usually extremely easy and charity shops are normally always looking for volunteers.. When you get any interviews let the interviewer know that your currently volunteering at what ever charity to keep yourself busy, it looks and sounds good.

Also the lady who ran the charity shop was kind enough to offer references for me although I had only been there for a couple of weeks.
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If you were fired or laid off at wal-mart you should be able to collect some unemployment benefits. I filed my girlfriend's unemployment online, it was pretty simple. As for work, right now, at least where I live, it's nearly impossible to find a job without a degree or experience.  So I suggest starting your own business. If you are good enough at guitar have you thought of teaching people to play guitar? Advertise your services on craigslist and see if you get any replies. Essentially you will be practicing guitar while making some money.

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yes ive tried teaching but it was nearly impossible getting students. i put up ads on craigslist and in the local music store but at most i had like 2 students at a time
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still unemployed btw, i applied at all of the local fastfood chains again and places like red lobster, etc. nothing! gonna kil myself.,,got no money,,,nojob,,
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did you do what i said in my last post?  cause again if youre just walking in and submitting your ap and not actively trying to talk to the managers ya aint gonna get a job
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yes ive tried teaching but it was nearly impossible getting students. i put up ads on craigslist and in the local music store but at most i had like 2 students at a time

really?? you didn't get more through word of mouth? just charge very little and put like a LOT of effort into the lessons to make sure the students enjoy / get something out of them. make lesson plans at first even.

do you drive? people seem to love it when you go to their hosue to teach instead of them going to yours.  ​
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did you do what i said in my last post?  cause again if youre just walking in and submitting your ap and not actively trying to talk to the managers ya aint gonna get a job

no i filled these out online, next time i do an application in person tho ill ask to talk to a manager etc. also how would one bullshit experience? just make up random shit? don't they call and check your references?
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really?? you didn't get more through word of mouth? just charge very little and put like a LOT of effort into the lessons to make sure the students enjoy / get something out of them. make lesson plans at first even.

do you drive? people seem to love it when you go to their hosue to teach instead of them going to yours.  ​

i did put a lot of effort in them! i wasn't just fuckin around. i had like 7 or 8 students total, but never more than like 2 at a time. 5 of those students were homeschooled, ultrareligious kids whos parents sat in on the lesson. they always wanted me to go to their house, even though i charged extra for doing it.
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Don't fill out applications online! That is a mistake. The absolute best way to get a job is to meet with the manager face to face and appear to not be a douche bag. Once you get an interview your resume no longer matters, and sometimes you can get an interview on the spot if you talk to a manager.

DO NOT make up experience. That is a retarded idea. If you apply at any corporate chain they are required to check references (all they do is call and ask if you worked there, usually they don't even ask if you were good or anything). If you have worked for any corporate chain (like Wendy's) then you can list them as a reference, since they'll have you on file. My resume is absolute shit, but I had two references so they called them, made sure I actually worked there, and moved on to the interview.

My best advice to you is this: pick up an application in store, take it home (don't fill it out in store, many managers don't like this since it seems like you aren't actually looking for the facts you need) and FILL IT OUT COMPLETELY. Like, 100%. Don't ever say "see resume" for references or anything. A resume is pretty much useless if you are trying to get hired part time at some chain. Bring back the application and resume (it should still be attached regardless of the fact that they rarely look at it) and try to give it to the most important looking person in the store. Be energetic! Managers don't want to hire people who can't even be polite and interested when dropping off their resumes.

Almost all of the interviews we grant are based on first impressions, so dress appropriately to where you're dropping off a resume and be super nice! And seriously, never make up shit on a resume. You can embellish things, but if an employer calls one person to see if you actually worked there and you didn't they will immediately file your application under the "do not hire" heading.

You can make up your availability and then change it, although employers hate this so be prepared to never get promoted. It will help you get your foot in the door, though. As for suggestions for where to actually apply: look for any places that have high turnaround rates for employees. Some stores hire people and they stay with them for a long time, which means jobs are not usually available. Some stores, however (especially stores that tend to hire younger people) might have an opening due to people leaving en masse for school or whatever. If you catch them at the right time they'll be desperate for people. Also, try to find availability where most other people don't have any (like during the middle of the day, if you take night classes). Everyone can work on the weekends and evenings, so aim for weekdays. Employers will sometimes hire people just to fill in gaps in their schedule.

edit: also make sure you are SUPER PATIENT when it comes to dropping off resumes. Never interrupt someone helping a customer/on the phone/et cetera to drop off your resume. Wait patiently.

The other day a guy interrupted my manager (who was ringing someone through at the time) and asked him "See here where it says 'have you ever been convicted of a crime'? Well, I haven't been YET, but I will be convicted on Friday so do I check it or not?". This is also a bad idea.
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no i filled these out online, next time i do an application in person tho ill ask to talk to a manager etc. also how would one bullshit experience? just make up random shit? don't they call and check your references?
do people you know have cell phones?  here's what you do.  this is easy for me since we have a house phone and everyone in my family has at least one cell phone but basically you just MAKE UP a company you worked for for like 5 years and then give them your cell phone number as its number and change your message to HI YOUVE REACHED <COMPANY> and then give them your home number as the one to contact you so they wont be like WAIT WHYS THE NUMBER THE SAME.  have someone (like your mom or someone older) record the voice mail message so it wont sound like some kid being like SUP BRO YOUVE REACHED SMITH FINANCE and uhh, have her return their call when they do call and talk you up.  this probably doesnt work with SERIOUS JOBS but it'll work with anyplace you'd get hired
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this probably doesnt work with SERIOUS JOBS but it'll work with anyplace you'd get hired

It's easy to limbo when the bar is set six feet high!

Do you have any friends that are respectable? I have a friend who is an aerospace engineer with his own numbered corporation, so if push came to shove I could use him as a fake reference. He's a a bit bad at lying though so he might not be able to bullshit his way through!
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i mean if you're trying to get a job with a serious company who checks references in details and offers a salary then no, this wouldn't work, although there are things you could do to blow steam up their asses, they're just much more ornate schemes.

he's some kid with a high school diploma who goes to community college, though.  he's not going to get a real job!  what i suggested will and has worked for me with any place he would realistically be hired at: a restaurant, retail, a factory, or any other entry-level, low-wage job where they don't give enough of a shit to thoroughly check references.  i think it's worth doing.