someone who leaves can also come back.. it happens ryan..

also suikoden 3 is pretty much on-par with 2 and suikoden 5 would be as well if it wasn't so slow and didn't have such hideous loading times. basically only the fourth one sucks.

idk, i played 4 and 5 for like an hour or two each and they were pretty bad! i hadnt played 3 but i heard it was really dumb by a few friends.

5 has a godawful beginning. It's like, SO2 bad. But it gets much better after the first few hours. It's really good for the first time you play it but I couldn't finish it the second time because the loading times are seriously so annoying.

And your friends are wrong. Suikoden 3 is actually the coolest Suikoden in many aspects. It tells you the story from three different perspectives and the way the story unravels from various perspectives and how the stories complement each other is really cool man. Like you play with one character and you get a biased opinion of another and then you play with another character and you start to get the full picture. It manages to do something new and is just generally a really cool way to present the story. It's pretty cool to have three heroes and it's also easier to sympathize with them, and it also does a pretty good job at getting rid of the good/evil cliche. You even get to play as the final villains once you have beaten the game which is a pretty cool touch as well. Of course Suikoden 3's approach has its problems as well, lots of visiting same areas over and over again but overall the good definitely outweighs the bad. The battle system is a bit weird but Suikoden has never had good gameplay unless you think using auto for every random encounter is good gameplay. Gotta admit the war system in Suikoden 3 blows though.

heh heh

"It was always you, my sister. Always you who one every match."

I don't like 5 as much, but I still went through to the end and enjoyed it more the further I got. The final chapters were a lot of fun and were full of army battles and ~DRAMA~,

I dunno, I got really irritated towards the end of 5 because it felt like they were deliberately trying to draw the game out by putting in really long fucking bridges/staircases. There's that town that's got the big fucking bridge (that you have to pass through multiple times) and then pretty much everything that happens in the Dragon Knights' place.

Suikoden 3 was pretty bad about this too because every town had those empty entryways that took like a minute or two just to cross (Brass Castle being the biggest offender since you'd have to pass through it so much)/ 

Suikoden 3 was pretty bad about this too because every town had those empty entryways that took like a minute or two just to cross (Brass Castle being the biggest offender since you'd have to pass through it so much)/ 

This is the sole reason I don't like Suikoden 3 nearly as much as 1 and 2. 5 Blowed and I actually liked 4, because looks like they forgot to take out DEBUG RUNNING or whatever it was (when you held R1)  because it sure as hell wasn't part of the actual game, since no game allows you to literally blow past everything.

so you liked suikoden 4 because you could run faster?

even though almost everything else about it sucked?

well ok i don't hate it as much as some others here but it was very average.

so you liked suikoden 4 because you could run faster?

even though almost everything else about it sucked?

That and S4 Jeanne was the hottest of all the others 

Seriously though, what sold me was the Ship battles. Out of all the strategic battles in all the Suikodens, the ship battles were the most fun, intense and AWESOME MUSIC. Well, for me a least it was.