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Barack Obama

#181 May 28, 2009, 05:53:48 am

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i think it'd be hilarious if he used his pull in the military-industrial complex to stage a coup and then I'd probably move away.

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dada

#182 May 28, 2009, 06:18:44 am

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Quote from: Cho on May 28, 2009, 04:14:49 am

Is Dick Cheney gunning to achieve Al Gore-level of celebrity? Is that why he won't go away?

He's vying to become the Republican gold standard. At that, it seems he's succeeding, as the base has shrunk to a core and most other mainstream figures are kind of looney. He must have practiced that scornful look for days as part of his torture justification program just so people will come to think of him as the big watchdog who, despite using reprehensible methods, did keep everybody safe at night.

And if that's not it, someone enlighten me.

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#183 May 28, 2009, 07:01:40 am

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Quote from: esiann on May 28, 2009, 05:28:30 am

anyway, why would he go away

I was just looking over the news and saw a headline that said something about one of Obama's adviser's providing a rebuttal to Dick Cheney's press conference and it made me ask myself, "Why is Dick Cheney holding a press conference?" I dunno, he's been doing this whole media tour recently and I'm just wondering why.

Quote from: Dada on May 28, 2009, 06:18:44 am

He's vying to become the Republican gold standard. At that, it seems he's succeeding, as the base has shrunk to a core and most other mainstream figures are kind of looney. He must have practiced that scornful look for days as part of his torture justification program just so people will come to think of him as the big watchdog who, despite using reprehensible methods, did keep everybody safe at night.

I'd also like to point out how shocking it is that Rush Limbaugh is making headlines in 2009. I honestly thought people stopped caring about him halfway through the Clinton administration.

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Farren

#184 May 28, 2009, 11:30:54 pm

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hey who is this steele guy? Is he of any significance at all?

So the republican party (aka fox news) are calling Sotomayor a racist and trying to get her appointment repealed because of some statement she gave. I read the statement that she gave and it did seem pretty dumb but was most likely taken out of context seeing as how FOX NEWS is the only network jumping on it. I love how that works out though, new hispanic judge gets a recommendation and immediately gets called a racist by the white man's party.

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#185 May 29, 2009, 12:22:53 am

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dick cheney is doing all of this to try and build public support for the bush administration's torture programs. because he's afraid he might be indicted or investigated.

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Barack Obama

#186 May 29, 2009, 12:43:27 am

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If investigations ever got as deep as Cheney, they'd also probably have to indict just about everyone along the way who was notified and complicit which would take ages and almost every one of those criminals in government has blood on their hands for looking away or not standing up to it for the sake of political expediency.

Cheney knows he'll never be indicted, he's doing this to rally a hurting republican base like Dada said.

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#187 May 29, 2009, 12:57:41 am

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I continually am amazed at how Bush, Cheney, Rove, and all the other hacks managed to take this country to a place where the viability of torture is even dignified to raise to the level of public debate as a valid policy... or maybe I'm just a little naive.

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Ryan

#188 May 29, 2009, 01:06:24 am

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apparently the abuse photos that obama blocked contained pictures of inmates that had been/were in the process of being raped.

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#189 May 29, 2009, 01:11:01 am

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Quote from: stern_gupples on May 29, 2009, 12:57:41 am

I continually am amazed at how Bush, Cheney, Rove, and all the other hacks managed to take this country to a place where the viability of torture is even dignified to raise to the level of public debate as a valid policy... or maybe I'm just a little naive.

it's not like the US just came out of some ideal state of liberty/justice until that nasty bush gang came along

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Ryan

#190 May 29, 2009, 01:17:49 am

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i watched a lil bit of glenn becks show today and hes the craziest motherfucker ever

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#191 May 29, 2009, 01:43:19 am

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Quote from: DietCoke on May 29, 2009, 01:11:01 am

it's not like the US just came out of some ideal state of liberty/justice until that nasty bush gang came along

no of course not, but i think most americans before the bush gang's 'handling' of 9/11 would have thought 'torture? what? that is NOT AMERICAN'

once again maybe i'm just being naive!

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Barack Obama

#192 May 29, 2009, 02:36:37 am

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Quote from: Bareback Alabama on May 29, 2009, 01:17:49 am

i watched a lil bit of glenn becks show today and hes the craziest motherfucker ever

that guy is just a coked out alex jones lite

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#193 May 29, 2009, 02:38:26 am

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dick cheney is hitting himself up as the gu and well done

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Barack Obama

#194 May 29, 2009, 02:41:44 am

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Quote from: stern_gupples on May 29, 2009, 01:43:19 am

i'm just being naive!

pretty much, the US has a pretty long history of doing fucked up shit while most of the people just kinda went along with it.

Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 02:43:31 am by DietCoke

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Ryan

#195 May 29, 2009, 02:51:35 am

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what he was saying tho is before bush/cheney this shit was never in OPEN DEBATE over the national news. if torture was brought up a few decades ago we'd be all going OH NO!! regardless of whether or not we did it behind closed doors.

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#196 May 29, 2009, 04:39:15 am

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I went to a Karl Rove/War/Torture protest in Chicago today

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#197 May 29, 2009, 04:40:14 am

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Quote from: Bareback Alabama on May 29, 2009, 02:51:35 am

what he was saying tho is before bush/cheney this shit was never in OPEN DEBATE over the national news. if torture was brought up a few decades ago we'd be all going OH NO!! regardless of whether or not we did it behind closed doors.

I'd say that this is a pretty recent phenomenon. I mean this is a nation built on the elimination of natives and slavery, reconstruction era was pretty much openly horrible without too much outrage, concentration camps in the Philippines were no secret, japanese internment was at best considered a necessary inconvenience, etc etc etc

US history stretches back a lot further than our lifetimes you know. There was always some opposition to all of that horrible shit, but it's pretty naive to be like "I can't believe they're actually publicly debating torture of military prisoners, that's not my america!!!"

Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 04:43:26 am by DietCoke

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#198 May 29, 2009, 05:31:13 am

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yeah but i mean, not necessarily from a historical perspective going back that many years, i doubt the post-vietnam generation would have thought anything but WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU if the government had tried to justify it in an OPEN FORUM.

i just find it amazing that the bush team caught onto that valence moment and tried to set back american civil rights 40 years considering their otherwise completely incompetent actions

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Ryan

#199 May 29, 2009, 05:45:14 am

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also just a q on ideologies: i've seen neo-liberalism and neo-conservativism BOTH applied to presidents like reagan and bush. i know the basic definitions of both but what??

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#200 May 29, 2009, 05:48:44 am

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i'm not quite sure what you're asking. neocon is kind of inaccurate since it's really just applied neoliberalism within the context of the republican party that advocates overthrowing unfriendly governments.

neoliberalism has very little to do with political liberalism. think of liberty as a ron paul guy would think of it and you'd begin to be on the right track.

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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