Hey guys, as some of you do know, I'm from Quebec, Canada. Anyways, recently I've decided that for university I really want to go study in music to get a bachelor's in performance for drums in jazz/contemporary music. I've been mostly checking countries like Norway, Sweden, Germany and Austria recently. I'll also be applying at a university here as a back-up plan. What I was wondering is if any of you have studied in music somewhere in Europe or just if you have any information that most websites don't offer about studying in Europe.

I'm currently practicing like crazy to then record my audition DVD towards August so I can start during the winter semester.

Thanks a lot

i hope you are rich. international students generally pay 3 times the amount for tuition. euopean exchange rates are also about double the canadian dollar... not to mention flight/living... :S

i hope you are rich. international students generally pay 3 times the amount for tuition. euopean exchange rates are also about double the canadian dollar... not to mention flight/living... :S

Actually, if I go to Norway my tuition fee is 0. But yeah it is going to be expensive. I already have some money on the side, an account with the Canadian government to pay for my studies (from the early 90s when they used to do this, so it is pretty decent), my parents are going to help me plus I'll be getting a job for sure. If needed I'll take a loan, I think it's definitely worth it plus if I do the 4 year version of the degree I'm a certified teacher in certain countries etc. I've found a few places where I stay that the price is actually cheaper than a small apartment here in Montreal.

I'll be getting a job for sure.

Its really not easy to get a work permit in the EU

Unless you've already got a degree in something else and can find a company willing to offer you a job AND sponsor your permit application you can probably get a work permit.

If you're an unskilled college kid, your only hope is trying to find someone willing to hire you illegally and not screw you over by overworking you or cheating you out of wages

Actually, if I go to Norway my tuition fee is 0. But yeah it is going to be expensive. I already have some money on the side, an account with the Canadian government to pay for my studies (from the early 90s when they used to do this, so it is pretty decent), my parents are going to help me plus I'll be getting a job for sure. If needed I'll take a loan, I think it's definitely worth it plus if I do the 4 year version of the degree I'm a certified teacher in certain countries etc. I've found a few places where I stay that the price is actually cheaper than a small apartment here in Montreal.

 okay, that's cool. it'd defintely be an amazing experience if the money thing isn't an issue to you. tuition in norway is free? are you sure about this? i was under the impression that countries who have free post secondary education do charge international students. maybe norway is just really really nice.

most student visas will allow you to work part time. at least canadians anyways...

okay, that's cool. it'd defintely be an amazing experience if the money thing isn't an issue to you. tuition in norway is free? are you sure about this? i was under the impression that countries who have free post secondary education do charge international students. maybe norway is just really really nice.

most student visas will allow you to work part time. at least canadians anyways...

Yeah that's what the universities I've been looking at have said. I've been talking with a girl that used to live here but she's now in Norway and she also explained to me that for my program, if my technical skills are bad they might charge or something. I kinda doubt about it but we'll see.

I'm not completely unskilled, I have a high school diploma plus I'm about to get a DEC which is post-secondary here in Quebec. Basically, I've had more education than the other people who'll be applying. I'm hoping that my DEC (which will be obtained with honors and a certificate that shows I was a tutor) will help me get a work visa. As far as I understood (I'll have to talk with the embassy in Ottawa) a student visa allows you to work for 15 hours per week or so.

Oh sweet. Only music school I know in Sweden is in Lund, but I don't know if you get a bachelor's after that one. Last year I checked a music school (guitar) in the US, but never applied since they also charged if you weren't skilled enough and I suck sooo... man, I'm jealous of you now >_<

It's freaking hard to get work in Sweden by the way. Just so you know.

Another good school is the Royal College of Music. But for undergraduate level programs, they only seem to offer English tuition as an exception. Link

Swedish tuition for international students is also 0. But you have to have proof that you have enough money to make it through the entire duration of your stay. Which I think is a minimum 72000 swedish crowns a year. Link

Another good school is the Royal College of Music.

Swedish tuition for international students is also 0. But you have to have proof that you have enough money to make it through the entire duration of your stay. Which I think is a minimum 72000 swedish crowns a year. Link

Do you know if the Orebro school of music is any good? Their section about music is only in Swedish so... Also, Norway offers many classes in English, is that the case in Sweden also. Thanks for the info

A lot of graduate level programs (master, doctorate, etc) are in English, but undergraduate programs are fewer. There are more individual courses that are in English though. I can only speak in general, since I don't study music. Here you can search for courses and full programs: Link

EDIT: Örebro University doesn't offer any undergraduate programs in English.

I don't know what a DEC is but i doubt they'd really care if it's something that's special to quebec

Don't quote me on this but I think it would be equivalent to a college degree. Well, depending on what it was.

I think that minimum amount of money also applies from norway (i.e. enough to live throughout the stay) as I heard something about from someone else who was considering it.

the lack of tution fee is probably not that bad, but everything in terms of food and drinkables.. and other stuff is probably going to be a bit more expensive than in any of the alternatives countries you listed

ps. Norway isn't a part of EU

I am impressed by the "you dont have money? fuck off" policy of most euro/usa universities.
Over here, the most expensive and one of the best university has a great scholarship policy. 35% of all students have some form of scholarship. Many others can also work within the uni for credit discounts.
I've been in the most expensive uni and didnt have to pay at all (except last year of uni, they like to cheat)

lol you think having a high school diploma makes you "skilled" and is going to put you on a stool above others for a job in the EU?

I don't know what a DEC is but i doubt they'd really care if it's something that's special to quebec

Dude, I never said having a high school diploma makes me "skilled" it's the DEC that helps a little bit with that. But one of my advantages for sure is that I already speak French and English and I'll be learning their language. DEC is basically something Quebec added to high school since we don't have middle school. However, most cegep classes are normally given at university level at other places in Canada etc.

Kazesui, I've been checking a place to live and it's not too bad if I'm in Trondheim. However, I haven't check out the price of food and such yet. And yeah Norway isn't part of the EU but they have many agreements with the EU. I'm currently checking out information about visas and schools. I'll definitely be calling the Norwgian Consulate and Embassy.

I am impressed by the "you dont have money? fuck off" policy of most euro/usa universities.

its a weird system but to be fair in a few states if you are a resident and keep like a 2.5 in high school they'll pay for you to go to any state school.

ps. Norway isn't a part of EU

nobody said it was

Dude, I never said having a high school diploma makes me "skilled" it's the DEC that helps a little bit with that. But one of my advantages for sure is that I already speak French and English and I'll be learning their language. DEC is basically something Quebec added to high school since we don't have middle school. However, most cegep classes are normally given at university level at other places in Canada etc.

Kazesui, I've been checking a place to live and it's not too bad if I'm in Trondheim. However, I haven't check out the price of food and such yet. And yeah Norway isn't part of the EU but they have many agreements with the EU. I'm currently checking out information about visas and schools. I'll definitely be calling the Norwgian Consulate and Embassy.

Norway is really expensive to live in from what I hear, just so you are prepared. When I was in Oslo last time, I had to pay like $25 for a pizza!