man it's not because women DON'T LIKE PHYSICS. it has to do with gender stereotypes and how women are raised to think they should like certain things and not like other things, how they should do certain things and aspire to be certain things. it's like asking why aren't there more black lawyers? why are there so many asian nail salons?

thats what ive been arguing you dummy. but theres been whole arguments about how for example, male physics profs have a bad teaching approach because females are more "verbal".

yeah i dunno why youd make this when that was the first thing that occurred to me too???  idk do you really need a discussion on why women are underrepresented in math/science fields

the issue here is that this is not really the case for like biology or chemistry. its only in mathy areas. why?????? minorities are underrepresented everywhere (except asians), thats not the case with females in the sciences.

well they certainly do love to talk XD

also is it only maths?  i thought the ratio of males to females was still fairly imbalanced in biology/chemistry as well.  i mean youre talking degrees here but i didnt think there was a huge discrepancy

This is the faculty of plant biology at msu

http://www.plantbiology.msu.edu/faculty/faculty-research

A little more than half are females.

women like flowers XD

Q: What do engineers use for birth control?

A: Their personalities.

XD

Since she's, as I understand it, a maths-loving Cock Socket I'd like to hear esiann's opinions on this

oh it's all a matter of culture. culture and basic brain structure that is... the gap's probably going to narrow steadily over the next idk couple decades though

to tell a pointless personal anecdote for a couple paragraphs, my mom's dad was a repairman and pretty much all her brothers are engineers, electrical or computer. she taught herself calculus in high school because there weren't adequate math courses there. she went to college for civil engineering and was the first female engineer where she worked. although apparently she wishes she'd done ece. anyway, she is pretty big on math. not as big on words or aesthetics.

my dad went to college for business or something and got his mba and then did business things for the navy and basically he lives to network. he is a very social person. not that big on math. he understands it, it just isn't very interesting to him. he is pretty big on words.

comparatively i like my mom more so i guess that could impact it. i like everything though, i doubt glottal stops or anything like that will ever be fascinating to me but i like learning about things. i think most people do.

anyway i will probably not have to deal with math too much in my future career. i like learning calculus and math in general but i can't imagine doing a degree in it, i'm not good enough at it for that. my cousin did math and recently he's done something with einstein and tensors in the name and i do not even understand.

cultural internalization is irritating to me today

are you only talking grad school?
the reward mathmatics brings is similar to masturbation, it's more acceptable for men to do maths because society accepts that they have certain 'urges' but it's less acceptable for women to transfer their libido to practical stimulation like maths or gaming.

Chemistry - Blow things up

Most of chemistry is actually geared toward preventing this from happening.


Also marmot, I've read that there's a predicted demographic shift in this, I can't remember where though.

I think currently most women are drawn to science as a means of entering a medical profession because it is a culturally reinforced "respectable womans job" where compensation discrepency between men and women either doesn't exist in many cases or isn't as severe as other industries. This probably explains why there's little interest in math/physics for women studying science.

Most of chemistry is actually geared toward preventing this from happening.


Also marmot, I've read that there's a predicted demographic shift in this, I can't remember where though.

I think currently most women are drawn to science as a means of entering a medical profession because it is a culturally reinforced "respectable womans job" where compensation discrepency between men and women either doesn't exist in many cases or isn't as severe as other industries. This probably explains why there's little interest in math/physics for women studying science.

I am not talking only about undergrad but people in grad school. People who study biology in grad school don't aim for medicine. Also fuck premeds theyre the scum of the natural sciences

i never understood why people thought medpeople are really smart they are just good at rote memorization /troll

the correlation between integration and oedipal desire is obvious but, i think, noteworthy

chemistry: create & sell drugs

physics: either add kids or people with crippling autism

autistic women just draw wolves and and become zoology people

anyway i will probably not have to deal with math too much in my future career. i like learning calculus and math in general but i can't imagine doing a degree in it, i'm not good enough at it for that. my cousin did math and recently he's done something with einstein and tensors in the name and i do not even understand.

cultural internalization is irritating to me today

you see the thing is that people arent as bad as math as they think its just they dont know how to study math. they think its the same as studying for *folding origami 201* or *lying with graphs 451*. It requires a complete different methodology. i am not talking about you in general i am only ranting. i am not a great mathematician either

I am not talking only about undergrad but people in grad school. People who study biology in grad school don't aim for medicine.

Its cuz they didn't get into med school and realized that an undergrad degree in Biology is pretty worthless.

lol