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I've played with Dedede, he's pretty good.
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ever killed a small blonde girl with your stunt car?
Not with my car, but I killed her alright, if you catch my drift :fogetnaughty:

justkidding, Geez
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the best way to train is to play against people, you're still wrong.

this is true no matter what the skill or game is.
Quit Trying to argue with me.

I AM saying you should train with people, if they're around.
The CPU thing is only a suggestion against training online.
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Guys, please don't turn this into a flame war. I think you both have valid points, but I do side with Raziel. A major aspect of playing against humans is that you have to wage psychological warfare. You can't practice that AT ALL against the CPU. While CPU opponents will allow you to practice your moves and combos they won't allow you to adapt your playing style to human nature - and when two human opponents face off with a similar skill level it's psychology that will determine who wins - your ability to read your opponent and exploit his patterns and weaknesses.
Mateui is right, let's put the guns away and go ahead on with our business

and PS:
I'm not talking about compitition but TRAINING. Those are the best things to do while TRAINING. So you are more capable of efficient psychological warfare.

How imbarassing the whole time we were arguing different things :fogetlaugh:
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Uh, my proof is that I have several years of experience and major tournaments won or placed top 8 under my belt?

Seriously guy, get with the fucking program. It's the same in any goddamn game, be it Smash, Street Fighter, Starcraft or anything else. You train against real humans to HEY WHAT'S THIS?? get good against real humans.

I know, it boggles the mind.

I'm sorry if a scrub like you thinks playing against CPUs makes you even the least bit good, but it doesn't. It makes you used to CPU tactics which are the worst fucking thing ever because they don't do anything right except reading your input. No dashdancing, no chain throws, no actual combos except the built in ones, no DI, nothing. It's like playing against a retard, except you know, the retard might catch on that there are things outside the shit built into the engine that can be abused.
Let me put this simple for you.

IF YOU'RE ALONE AND WANT TO TRAIN, YOU SHOULD PLAY IT LIKE I ONCE TOLD YOU

IF YOU'RE NOT ALONE YOU SHOULD PRACTICE WITH A FRIEND

IF THE FRIEND IS NOT AS GOOD AS YOU, YOU SHOULD TRAIN THEM UNTIL THEY ARE, THEN PERFORM STEP 2

IN MY OPINION, YOU SHOULDN'T HUMILIATE YOUSELF ONLINE

THIS GOES FOR ALL GAMES THAT HAS THE CUSTOMIZABLE FEATURES OF SMASH

I know, it boggles the mind.

Oh, and sorry for saying your complete bullshit. That was kind of bitchy of me.
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dont be shy.
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Playing against CPUs is complete bullshit and should never be used to gauge someone's skill level in any sort of games.

I do awful against CPUs yet I can take the fight up to some of the best players in the country and be on an even playing field against them. Playing the computer has nothing to do with how good you are in any games, even less with Smash.
I hate to say it Raziel, but YOU are the one that is complete bullshit.
Your arguement has the least effecient if not any evidence what so ever.
Yes the CPU can help you if you know how to use it. And THAT requires skill, my friend.
I am living proof. Before I fought my brother I used my training method and I've won alot more times than not training whatsoever.
It also depends on how good the human player is.
One can brag that they are one of the best in the country butare they really?
Did you even win the battle?
In you last statement you said,"even less in smash" so that indicates that you have ZERO contensions toward smash.
And at least it's better to train that way insted of getting your ass beat online with thousands of people watching.
I guess you can train with a friend, but notheless you should not do the online training method.
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I had some good online matches today... I don't think it was anyone here.  I forget exactly who it was because I have a bunch of random friend codes on my list from various forums.

Anyhow, I played a bunch of matches against the same dude... he used Olimar really well.  Olimar can be REALLY REALLY annoying.  In the first few matches, he beat me rather badly but I gained by footing later and scored a few wins with Marth and Sheik.  I've been trying to get good with Wolf too but I still need work... I still accidentally kill myself too much by using his moves wrong :\

I'm still pretty bad but I think I'm making progress by playing online a lot.
I don't know...

My opinion is that you shouldn't do that, because not only the online person knows, but anyone from around the world who is watching the match knows how much of a newbie you are also.

I suggest that you train offline until you are you are in "movie appeal" as I like to call it.

My personal training method is to fight in "team stamina" against as many Lv.9 Gannondorfs as I can handle (I know that I almost beat 3 with purin with: 86; 39; and 57 HP left) either that or completly clear 1p mode set on a difficulty above what you can handle. It's just like weight traning; sometimes you have to go above the limit.
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I never understood why people insisted on using the name Purin :/

... I guess it's more genuwine. :fogetshrug:
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I'd like to concede. Like I said in the old  SSBB disscusion, Purin was the best character in melee, at least in my opinion. If I didn't say that, I'd meant to say it.

And also, I think that Wario sucks.

NO OFFENCE
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what kinda stunts you do?
Alot, next question
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less talk more backflippe, stuntkid. it is the only way to success!
Success is exceled by fear

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that was low dude..
that was very low
But funny
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oh my god...


Wario sucks.
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you guyz r pussies.

THIS is the hardest game in world.
This game is game is rather very challenging. Who knew? :fogetshrug:
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*Sigh*

...since noone is goanna answer the question you might as well let this topic die...
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MYAMOTO IS GOD BABY!!

WHOO!!!

 
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Pound is okay, but rest and rollout are both predictable and easily avoided. Rest requires you to be on top of the opponent while doing it so it's kinda hard to pull off as well.

The giant Jigglypuff glitch doesn't increase your hitboxes at all. The game still thinks you're normal size. The only thing that changes is your appearance. There is literally no advantage to that glitch. If anything, it'll put you at a disadvantage because you won't be able to see where you should be attacking.
That's what makes it challenging. If you can find a tactical way for you to put those moves to your advantage then alot of new oppotunities will show up. It's a great way to build your skills for any character. Besides its final smash isn't that bad neither. Plus it makes it super humiliating for the opponent if they loose from the attack.

This is why Purin one of is the most underrated character in the Smash franshise.

Besides, I just choose to fight as Purin because I'm really good with it.
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Yea, I just signed up for the Smash Brawl tornament.

I'LL PWN ALL WITH

Not only Purin has Rest, Pound, Rollout, and good arial technique, but I'll just use the "Giga Jiggly Glitch" and smash all of yall into bits!
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Or we could not.

This cat works alone.  :fogetcool:

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I didn't mean talk about your name but to get to know each other. That's all.
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dude, welcome to Gaming World. And more importantly, where the hell are you from? I've never met a seventeen year old who has such an odd speaking/writing style.
It's not my location, I'm just "REALLY REALLY weird."(the quotes indicate that people have said that to my face)

Look up "my location" if you find out where I really am you'll win a prize.

...not really
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