Well I thought it was funny that nerds and net savvy druggy kids started helping each other buy Research Chemicals (little known hallucinogens more or less like if LSD and DMT were the pokemon red rom pokedex then they would be Missingo, .4 etc. slightly random effects and appearance from corresponding to random input gates?) from Chinese factories on the Deep Dark Web because it was like that HYPER TEK 2 shit but real in a kind of spooky and sinister way.
 
edit: Isn't a fractional time signature a way of writing a larger version of itself? Unless it's irrational?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
 
Stupid question but the uplifting chorus where he goes HA-YEEEEEEEEEEEE, to a Japanese person, does that come across just like meaningless scatting or does it sound like the Japanese equivalent of OHHHHH YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH?

I always hoped some uninventive fans would pick up on VS's name and start making their own albums under Venetian Kicks, Venetian Hihats, Venetian Cuicas, Bell Trees etc.

I'm YOUR DOG (stooges)
 
FAMILY DOG
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKlh54O1E8
 
It was a good move to take the music out or it might have seemed a little unrealistic

Oh yeah the hypnosis thing was just a joke. It's like does that one confident declaimer at the end REALLY add so much cachet to its view that this guy just automatically shares and agrees with anything ending in that command lol Because the ideas expressed in them are so lazy and hard to engage with
 
I bet there's a fursona for every dog breed and probably every cat breed, or at least lots of them:
 
 

Popular dog breeds within the furry fandom

• Alaskan Malamute
• Beagle
• Border Collie
• Chihuahua
• Cocker Spaniel
• Dachshund
• Dalmatian
• Doberman Pinscher
• German Shepherd
• Labrador Retriever
• Pit bull
• Rottweiler
• Siberian Husky
• Shih Tzu

 
- Wikifur

Actually funny you should bring up Confucius because just a few hours ago I read this thing about this politician from Brazil named after him for some reason? and apparently his family and region have no connection with Asia or Asian immigration.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conf%C3%BAcio_Moura
 
Well, there are tons of Jesuses and Mohammeds, Marias, Sophias. I dunno how many Ahura-Mazdas.

 
sorry to drop this here, but my 50+ year old rightwing friend is always sharing this stuff on facebook (KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, foot brained pundits) and these were on the same day. So instead of carnival barkers and voluble conmen with practiced patter, we're just doing magic spells on the populace? Are those like the NLP magician words that make these stupid perspectives take root in your brain, "let that sink in", Krusty kill kode? (=KKK) satellite incantation of Illuminatus Trump hypnotic meme induction

idk about white guy wanna-thai rave but there is real thai rave according to my google search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tw9tPdFQgg

Phaak-Far by Bowvee
The opening with the breaks and the orange juice TV dancers going before the actual NRG 909s start proper is neat and the autotuned vocals have a lot of good moments.

africa in general has been my main interest for the past while, the wealth of stuff to look at there can not be overstated. and then there's the different groups of diaspora which all have their own unique fascinating stuff, which is why a few months back I wanted to just make an africa thread. which might feel, idk, pretentious, but there's too much to cover/too many things that are too far from common knowledge or even internet-knowledge even with so much of it being currently lost to time

this is cool as hell, i love learning about africa but no one can ever give cool links like that.
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damballa

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDL7I8uSdx0
 
And she pumps air in my spirit
Blasts my eyes
With her tongue and coils gives me everlasting life

 
is this song really about a genderswapped Damballa

 

The Japanese copying is totally a thing just like Chinese copying is a thing, but Japanese copying seems to be more frequently done out of earnest artistic respect? Basically the "they'll never hear or care about this" sort of idea "homaging" (cold ripping off) that Westerners do with animes, but it's happening to our culture, pop, so it feels weirder. Also it's been a part of their culture since at least, when they stopped being isolationist and accepted the idea of hanging out with other countries (anime high schooler character development repeating japanese history) I read they sent ambassadors around in groups to like EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD or at least the really big ones and the guys would just write down everything and report back good ideas that their governments could copy, basically spying but completely open about it, and only surface-level societal stuff. Then they collectively got and maintained their reputation for working hard and making advanced robotics.
 
Also dude  that's a much better way to saay what I was saying! "post uncanny valley". Like we've finally hit the point where you can make gross shit really look GROSS and detailed in a weird, cool movie way, and it looks like a concrete WORLD arrangement instead of a huge duplo block. Some horror games that come out now actually make me EXCITED to see how intricate they're willing to go and even sometimes... AWED? and it's really embarrassing! Also re: RE7 it's pretty great we're still doing numbered sequels, when I was a kid I was looking forward to like Mario 1024 and Doom 6

A while ago you mentioned literal bible translations so I started looking for some. And found some normie dude talking about various sorts of Bible translation, and in the process validating and defending ENGRISH basically haha but as a religious studies professional and without even gussying it up with nostalgia or... anything but sincerity. Salt world has a friend in the christian community... An-dy. You friend.
 
 

3. Their language is unique and memorable. Because they’re translating a vocabulary and sentence structure that are quite far removed from modern spoken language, word-for-word Bibles have a unique voice that truly stands out from modern writing and literature. You might use words like majestic, soaring, or inspiring to describe them—perhaps even “old-fashioned,” but in a positive sense. If this style of language appeals to you, you’ll want to be sure to listen to them as well as read them—so visit our library of audio Bibles to get the full effect.

 
 

 
https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2017/02/which-bible-translation-is-best-part-2-word-for-word-bibles-on-bible-gateway/
 
also dude that rpgm dude sounds really interesting, you should post him or his name if there's anything left. i've always loved the super dense, loud, lots of little details style of placing images. some of it is because it discourages the "classy" "minimalist" look that Apple popularized and ruined good colors and weird shapes and dense, insane graphics. I was a kid when it happened and I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE it was the iPod bursting ahead of everyone and stealing the "white block" design to slam dunk itself into the cultural hoop of the ultimate snobbish wealthy hipster / COOL PEOPLE fashion icon. i guess, i was just a kid.

Oh I didn't notice you had edited in, by "black queers" I just mean, two black transwomen I happen to have met from school, turned out to be furries when I connected with them on social media. I didn't want to say it because making such a big generalization from two people is really unfair. But I'm sticking with the impression I got, although when it's the other direction, seeing a furry on the internet and finding they're black when they reference it or post a pic of themselves, you don't not see a lotta wolves, don't you!!? I wonder what the crossover is between people's "Favorite animals" and their fursonas once they incept into furrydom? Probably furry forums have some "reasons why you/when did you..." threads that would be enlightening.
 
 
 

game from last page sounds sweet Tony, the best experience from roguelikes as we know is being in a vast and incomprehensible world and having no idea what you're doing, yet all of your actions somehow have quantitative importance and thru your scrambling, adaptive wiles or luck you occasionally can scrap together a handful of good decisions for a few glorious moments of success before burning out and meeting your gruesome doom. and I don't even play many roguelikes, but fucking juicy contextual ways of meating ur doom are great too

thanks man!!! i've stopped playin' them too for the more part. they don't have enough races.

Ms. Pacman is pretty much it lmao, that's like almost BOTH definitions of a fetish? The bow is this ultimate miracle object that represents PURE FEMME POWER and just letting it touch you will stick and turn you MS. Whatever you'd call that object crops up AGAIN AND AGAIN in trans-themed fantasies - the magic wand / kiss / machine / alien parasite / cosmetics that painlessly destroy your dick and give you tits + make your hair poofy and whatever else the author likes.
 
Actually, furries, the way you put them, makes me think - I don't think I've really seen much in the way of, like, a weak scrawny bull fursona? Like you can find a buff version of anything, but some animals definitely seem to have more limited appeals. Like if they're the sort to choose some weird rare lemur a lot of the time they'll be playing up the uncanniness, or if they go for a fox it's a lot more likely to be pretty vanilla "i'm a Furry ​" or like "clever, gracile, louche" the sort of people who describe themselves as "snarky".
 
edit: Oh and the dicks... christ the dicks. Definitely some sort of weird lego mentality. All sorts of flash sex RPGs with dick species as a stat? F.A.T.A.L. design, where Rectal Circumference is a germane statistic lol.

Yeah I won't talk about it in depth but there's been a big sea change in dickgirls over the course of my life - their genital construction, their popularity, their themes, the amount they identify with realistic queerness and transgender stuff vs. the always more or less popular, for a variety of reasons, both good and not so good, the "welcome to the dickgirl world"-style inexplicable fantasy.
 
Don't consider me a connoisseur of this stuff because I'm not, but it might blow your mind to look into how... I don't know, MODULAR and GAMIFIED some extremists like their porn. On image boards and boorus people will post stuff that sometimes have this slant where they want to sort of "quantify" their characters' measurements in a variable, polymorphic way? e.g. "Attribute absorption" (by sexual contact) from one another. (All of them seem to have the same plot, an anime lady is going around [setting] stealing unassuming characters' breasts and dicks right off their body lol) And those people who are into slime girls, some get really into the idea of slime characters like trading body parts or combining theirs, and that shit gets fucking WEIRD and unpleasant really quickly. Now that's not to say this is THE FUTURE, it's always just single artists or tiny clusters of similar artists working together, but every year things only get weirder as opposed to more vanilla. Plus as fun as it is to mock the idea of "GAY PORN TURNS THE KIDS GAY!!!!!!" I admit every porn image does actually have the sinister capacity to maybe turn someone on and permanently end up dooming them to a spiral into unhealthiness. Hell, it's been shown any CLEAN image (even a weird accidental fetish one made with sincere and honest innocent intent) might be able to do that to people (looks fretfully at balloons, rubber gloves, pet rats) and now that people are openly into all sorts of weird body-stealing, melting, transforming shit, and lots of the time it seems like they're trying to get off in the dick and the Disgaea grinding organ at the same time.

LOL that whole post is spot on, I agree with everything you say. Re: Aphex Twin I don't know specifically, but breakcore and idm in general seems like it has a lot of furry / weird sex stuff fans? E.g. Renard is a fox furry... Renard means FOX... I don't listen to Renard but I hear dopes recommending him in youtube comments etc. I think, not because idm perverts you, but if you're into media that's outre and web-based, you will statistically start to run into more inventive music and idm artist/style communities will see a benefit from that boost. I'm just repeating myself from my post earlier about black queers -> more likely to coincide on venn diagram with furries -> the "i like 'gross'" animals and bugs sphere.
 
With religion ofc, who knows what precisely caused each at their inception but every one needs a certain base strata of humans to get popular, right? Like how life or a forest fire starts, it needs a certain situation with gunpowder and a catalyst, and all the world religions had and have, some specific ratio, or group of ratios, of multiple humans who are going out and spreading this idea, or fighting against it and legitimizing its martyrdom, and either of these could easily be fueled by doing drugs / or being crazy - which go hand in hand a lot for many reasons - so much that you become TOTALLY CONVINCED in this rather silly idea. And you know, in the desert nomad days, their therapy was pretty crude afaik, so you could be really passionate about a completely stupid idea without necessarily triggering people's "this man is mad" instinct. Just like nowadays.
 
The stuff you said about church is funny, because it is really just boring religious TV without the TV part, right? I always wondered how boring people found it when they had the linguistic familiarity and attention span to really pay attention to the insane and brutal bits, like how much of that is intended to "scare childish dopes into complying" like some people think nowadays, and how much is intended to make everyone go WOAH like the Matrix? But immensely dignified and ancient. I don't think looking at it that way makes it stupid or lame, it just elevates everything else, like anything people do now could just be an expression of spirituality. I know people have the capacity to approach art on different "levels" depending on where it's coming from e.g. how you appreciate a picture made by your little kid relative with a different part of your heart than you appreciate a really surprisingly good song, lush VR visuals or IRL mountain. I've been made to feel really deeply by all sorts of random bits of media that most people would have no reason to pay attention to, but it's not like "religious" because............. ?????????????? It doesn't have any costumes and I don't evangelize MUCH about it I guess. And maybe because it's not concerned with the state of my immortal soul and therefore doesn't have a place on the afterlife battleground debate.

Also I agree with you but not with your friend - I think they're super close to getting it like that IS what is good. If something stimulates you and you like it, THAT'S GOOD. Everyone's fucking poisoned by this idea that art can be worthwhile on its own if it somehow fits to all these standards of Renaissance masters or modernism or whatever. It's just stimulus and what you're willing to admit you like. I don't think you can really be tricked by stimulus into liking something you "really don't". If you respond to stimulus positively that's what you liking it IS.
 
Kids do it honestly they can be like "I like this game for the part where the guy kicks the other guy" and like when you're an adult you're not ALLOWED to be that simple anymore. Even though the majority of people STILL THINK LIKE THAT, like wow, that bit where the hulk takes the guy and slams him over his head is really impressive, and exciting looking. I wish I could do that to my foes. But you sound simple if you say it out loud, so people hide behind that stupid "WELL I JUST LIKE HAVING FUN OKAY? AND TURNING OFF MY BRAIN" excuse, which is just refusing to engage with what you actually like and why, so you can arbitrarily defend whatever you like from society's class-based criticism. (Not that I'm some magician at not being a classist asshole, I just called a guy a retard.)
 
And like MOST PEOPLE - i.e. EVERY FUCKING PERSON I HAVE MET AND BECOME CLOSE WITH - has some small-to-huge sexual hangup. Whether it's just "I wish I had more sex" or "I get jealous too easy" or some really fucked up perspective or fetish they're ashamed of or not. If you go through regular puberty society fucking LANCES you with sexual imagery, I don't really believe you can make it to adulthood without SOME seediness in your brain unless you're like legitimately 100% sexless and have no libido, and in that case it causes you problems because people don't believe you and try and rope you into it. Of course I should talk to a sexologist about it to see how right I am before I go putting my screwed up worldview on everyone else, but I do believe - under my breath mostly - that a GREAT DEAL of entertainment and politics is decided by shockingly stupid sex drive stuff nobody wants to talk about.
 
I know that's an old hippie idea and there are lots of cheesy ass books from the 70s especially that set out the entire human problem as being rooted in sexuality but that's not what I'm thinking. I just think people are so scared to talk about sex or seem unusual, sexually, that we've ended up with a huge crop of brains who have accidentally or deliberately gotten themselves into stretched out perspectives.
 
 
The internet might make some types flashier, or in general make it more obvious, but when people were all living on isolated little farms I think everyone might have been even WEIRDER, sexually, at least more in some ways and less in others. You can look up all sorts of hillbilly farmer doctor accounts from the 1800s of these gungy old men sticking, like, hay up their ass "accidentally" and needing help getting it out. And then he needs help again and again. The more we change...

the nazi blog of "MORGOTH PENGUIN" is PROBABLY stupid? ahaha come on dude. i think if you're going on to talk about racism in psytrance you can stand to err on the side of mean here.
 
the man who calls himself Morgoth Penguin is a retarded clown and his idea - that the modern bland adaptations of racist fairy tales are really deliberate betrayals of his nazi ideals engineered by fat women with hairdye who run the entertainment industry as of a few years ago - is also stupid. Tough guys have been preaching against the FAGIFICATION and PUSSIFYING EFFECT of children's media for 40,000,000 years and it only ever sounds good to weaklings who hate themselves.
 
And no it didn't do enough homework because now I'm left wondering where does the anime fit into his worldview? It was aimed at Japanese kids in the 70s so is it like HALF SJW and HALF NAZI... Does he hate Japs like he hates Jews or is he on their side
 
And also like you said it's not even an example of what I was talking about. It's just like every other WHY DIDNT THEY LEAVE IN THE PART WHERE THE WOODS MAN RAPES HER??? thing so - huge waste of time - fuck this guy
 
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RE: Racism in Eco EDM
 
I like looking up the multitude of boring songs actually NAMED "Jungle Fever" lol I wonder what is the single most fetishized sounding one? It'd actually be pretty interesting to find the fakest trance (or anything) artists with the most tepid and insincere sampling and sound design habits.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlVvJkaYJjQ
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fif7lRoGhPk
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWriZTD2AUM

It's funny to think of a song as placed on the axes of Druggy + Spiritual - like you're saying about some inventive, earnest sounding song that is not-so-secretly really earnest about being Yogic Machine Elf Prayer or whatever? psytrance equivalent of a metal band turning out to be Nazis
 
what about the other way around?, I guess for spiritual music the obvious fake equivalent would be some radio thing namedropping Jesus, or like an advertisement jingle for a funeral home. Are there any open fascist bands that accidentally wrote songs promoting tolerance/