Topic: The Lujo Virus (Hohoho, and you feared the Swine Flu!!!) (Read 1393 times)

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http://health.lifestyle.yahoo.ca/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=18232&news_channel_id=1020&channel_id=1020

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Scientists find new killer virus in Africa

Scientists have identified a lethal new virus in Africa that causes bleeding like the dreaded Ebola virus.

The Lujo virus infected five people in Zambia and South Africa last fall. Four of them died but a fifth survived, perhaps helped by a medicine recommended by the scientists.

It's not clear how the first person became infected but the bug comes from a family of viruses found in rodents, said Dr. Ian Lipkin, a Columbia University epidemiologist involved in the discovery.

"This one is really, really aggressive" he said of the virus.

A paper on the virus by Lipkin and his collaborators was published online Thursday on in PLoS Pathogens.

The outbreak started in September, when a female travel agent who lives on the outskirts of Lusaka, Zambia, became ill with a fever-like illness that quickly grew much worse.

She was airlifted to Johannesburg, South Africa, where she died.

A paramedic in Lusaka who treated her also became sick, was transported to Johannesburg and died. The three others infected were health care workers in Johannesburg.

Investigators believe the virus spread from person to person through contact with infected body fluids.

"It's not a kind of virus like the flu that can spread widely," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which helped fund the research.

The name given to the virus - Lujo - stems from Lusaka and Johannesburg, the cities where it was first identified.

Investigators in Africa thought the illness might be Ebola, because some of the patients had bleeding gums and around needle injection sites, said Stuart Nichol, chief of the molecular biology lab in the CDC's Special Pathogens Branch. Other symptoms include include fever, shock, coma and organ failure.

Samples of blood and liver from the victims were sent to the United States, where they were tested at Columbia University in New York and at CDC in Atlanta. Tests determined it belonged to the arenavirus family, and is distantly related to Lassa fever, another disease found in Africa.

The drug ribavirin, which is given to Lassa victims, was given to the fifth Lujo virus patient - a Johannesburg nurse. It's not clear if the medicine made a difference or if she just had a milder case of the disease but she fully recovered, Nichol said.

The research is a startling example of how quickly scientists can now identify new viruses, Fauci said. Using genetic sequencing techniques, the virus was identified in a matter of a few days - a process that used to take weeks or longer.

Along with Fauci's institute, the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute and Google also helped fund the research.


Well, ain't that a bitch? It's good that they don't believe that it has any widespread potential, but I suppose it would only take a few really careless people to make this bad boy move around. Here's hoping that it stays right where it is though, and they find the source of the virus (whatever rodents are carrying it?) and do something about it.


A sick part of me wishes that they had called this the Murphy virus, due to the bleeding gums and all.
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shit, i have a friend who is in that area now and she's got this terrible immune system disease. somehow she's got the immune system of an HIV positive person but isn't HIV pos.
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This doesn't sound very dangerous. It sounds like it shows itself very quickly and kills as quickly and can only be transferred via bodily fluids, which means the chances of it spreading are pretty slim. I mean, it's definitely not something you want to get, but it's also something you are probably never going to get. How many people do you know that have Ebola? Because Ebola is more contagious than this (or that's what it sounds like, anyways) and just as deadly.
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Ebola is the most lethal and contagious one in the entire world, luckily it's so lethal it kills itself off before it can spread to a significant population. It's the slow killers I worry about, host lives long enough for it to spread.
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im stacking up on heinz sweet chili mean beanz

this won't make you safe, you can still get infected even after eating loads of mean beanz.
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i dont know. ive had probably 19 or 20 cans to date and im still not sick. thats not to say i couldn't get sick but its probably better to play it safe and eat a lot of beans.
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johannesburg is like the aids capital of the world or something isn't it? if they say it can't be widespread, you better believe it!
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Aw, fuck. And I'm going to Africa in, like, six weeks. Dammit.

Well, it's Nigeria I'm traveling to, so fairly far from the infection site. I will also make sure to not touch anyone's bodily fluids!
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So this killed only four people? Big fucking deal, wake me up when it hits triple digits, then I might possibly give a damn.
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Aw, fuck. And I'm going to Africa in, like, six weeks. Dammit.

Well, it's Nigeria I'm traveling to, so fairly far from the infection site. I will also make sure to not touch anyone's bodily fluids!

I like how people consider Africa to be a cohesive blob of blackies and viruses


Like, if there was an outbreak of a virus in Paris and you were going to India would you be concerned? That is the distance you are discussing!
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zambia and nigeria aren't that far away. it's more like going to nyc and worrying about a virus in miami, if people here were more sedentary but with weaker immune systems. also iirc wunderbread is black so you can't use 'jus a buncha coloreds' against her.
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I like how people consider Africa to be a cohesive blob of blackies and viruses


Like, if there was an outbreak of a virus in Paris and you were going to India would you be concerned? That is the distance you are discussing!


I double checked ftr, and South Africa has better than 5 and a half million people will aids, which like 3 million more than any other country in the world.
Also 30% of the people there are unemployed and 90% of them are black, so...
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Man that sucks. I have a friend in Northern africa right now. I think she's safe enough distance though. Bah. It doesn't surprize me that theres another disease in Africa though, really.
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I like all the people here worried about their trips to africa. Africa is one big ass continent and I'd be alot more worried about other bad shit happening over there to an american then the lottery chance that you might win this virus.
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zambia and nigeria aren't that far away. it's more like going to nyc and worrying about a virus in miami, if people here were more sedentary but with weaker immune systems. also iirc wunderbread is black so you can't use 'jus a buncha coloreds' against her.
Thiis. Basically if there were a disease in New York and I were back in Florida I would be kind wary. Except people are a lot less mobile in Africa, so it would obviously spread slower.

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I like all the people here worried about their trips to africa. Africa is one big ass continent and I'd be alot more worried about other bad shit happening over there to an american then the lottery chance that you might win this virus.
I dunno, man, the times I've been to Africa, people have been pretty chill about me being American. When I went to school there for a while people even thought it was cool. Granted, this was Nigeria and I don't think there's really a big anti-American vibe over there to begin with.
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zambia and nigeria aren't that far away. it's more like going to nyc and worrying about a virus in miami, if people here were more sedentary but with weaker immune systems. also iirc wunderbread is black so you can't use 'jus a buncha coloreds' against her.

Yeah except people from Zambia don't shout "roadtrip" and pile into a car and drive to Nigeria. There is a GIANT EQUATORIAL RAINFOREST in between these two countries (caps for largeness of rainforest).

It's not a "just a bunch of coloreds=racism" argument so much as viewing Africa as a series of interchangeable nations like one would view the US as a series of interchangeable states. Skin colour has nothing to do with viewing Africa as a single entity; people just think that African nations are very similar and what afflicts one automatically afflicts others. I'm not targeting WunderBread here at all, either, I see this kind of thing pop up every time someone says anything about Africa. "Oh no terrorists blew up something in Morocco... but I'm going to Botswana in three months how will this directly effect me?! WILL I BE EXPLODED?" Not quite, but you get the picture!

Zambia and Nigeria are totally different nations that have several nations in between them. True, they may be like New York and Miami in distance, but imagine if instead of an excellent interstate system between those two points you had some of the most impassable terrain in the world. For like 600 kilometers nonstop. It doesn't make for a migration route.
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might want to look up sedentary

africa is one big place, it's a continent; you made it sound as though wunderbread thought it was one big place because everyone there is black.

distance has a lot to do with the cost of travel regardless of terrain, and disease vectors work mostly on proximity. if she had said she was going to madagascar that'd be a different story, madagascar is immune to almost all diseases
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that is true but it's not like everyone there stays in one place either. you like pointing out "people think x about africa", but the same could easily apply to your posts. I only brought up the distance between florida and new york to counter your claim that it was actually more like the distance between france and india. and no there aren't any trans-african road trips that I know of, but african nations are not a bunch of tribes livin in straw huts and hunting boars with stone-tipped spears...as...as some uncultured ignoramuses seem to think. nigeria and south africa are pretty modernized nations and I really doubt there is no flight or sea travel between them and nearby nations.

all of that is kinda pointless tho because apparently this thing doesn't spread at all. but I don't think it's unreasonable to hear this news and have a nervous reaction SHIT IM GOING TO AFRICA before reason settles in.

and I don't really think this is a thing people do with africa. maybe it's worse because africa is such a big place, but people definitely do it with europe too and I think even south america. I never heard it with asia but it's possible, china definitely.