Topic: The Last Airbender... Racist? (Read 6523 times)

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Alright then but no where in the cartoon does it say that anyone is suppose to be asian. It's a fantasy world so why can't white people live asian like worlds?
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Psyburn this movie ISN'T OUT YET you can't use Dragonball (which probably a lot of people wouldn't even audition for because it's obviously gonna be bad btw) as an example against this when we're talking about THIS MOVIE.  In THIS MOVIE it could very well be that the best they could find is this kid, who is new to acting like probably almost all the other kids involved (so using DENZEL WASHINGTON is a dumb argument because these kids don't have previous examples to go on).  In fact half of your arguments are terrible because they don't apply to this situation at all.

Also, he got the part by, guess what, BEING GOOD AT MARTIAL ARTS.

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Ringer keeps his head shaved and has a "blackbelt" in martial arts. When asked why he shaves his head, by a USA Today writer, he responded, "It keeps me cool when I'm doing tae kwon do." Dev Patel, set to play Zuko in The Last Airbender, has also earned his black belt in tae kwon do before he turned to acting. Even though he is seven years older and a foot taller, Patel states that in a martial arts match between the two, "Noah would knock me flat on my back."

So why exactly is this kid not qualified instead of an Asian kid?  Isn't it more important to pick someone more qualified than someone over race?  Isn't this YOUR argument?  What makes this kid not a good enough choice for you?
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No Dada, don't ask psyburn about the film industry.  He's just going to tell you about how "the system" won't let anyone make a film with a leading asian, even though there are so many films made outside of hollywood.  Any post related to this argument needs to have the response "put up or shut up" btw.
I was reading through previous pages and this on page 2 really pissed me off. Because #1, it's true, and #2, I know a good amount about films made outside of Hollywood, and in this scenario was discussing Hollywood in general and all that shit. It's pretty much universally acknowledges in the world of film making all around the world, Japan, Italy, whatever, that Hollywood is a whole different game. But..I don't want to argue this, just wanted to get that off my chest because it upset me alot.

And Velfarre..........................good argument.

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I just noticed where you showed the people responsible for that website btw, and it completely disgusts me that someone that old writes like that.  Putting EPIC FAIL on something you're trying to get people to take seriously good lord :/
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She's trying to connect with the youth, Velfarre. She has to lower herself to their level to get them to pay enough attention to maybe care about her message.
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You're so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.

Your right how could my tiny brain compare to that of an asian.
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Your right how could my tiny brain compare to that of an asian.
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okay psyburn has had some really bad arguments in this topic but arcan is just being regular retarded, get out of here
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what's wrong with you guys. it's a stupid movie about an american anime directed by m. night where instead of having an entire mongoloid cast, they made all the good guys white and the bad guys brown. that's funny. it's racist no shit. but I am looking forward to seeing pictures of a bunch of white people named AANG and KATARA dressed up like buddhist monks and pretending to bend the elements while dancing around on a pagoda

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i read a comment on some news article about this stuff where someone said "maybe them all being white is the twist" and it was great
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THat was me on the first page of this topic : )
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did you post it on some article too because it was in the comments section of one

if not then you and someone else out there....need to be married

edit: http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/avatar-casting/ here, found your soulmate mark
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I agree completely with Earl, my brain sucks at processing things and whatever so I was not able to defeat Vellfare's argument convincingly (and I do think there is something wrong with her for thinking it's not racist), but I still believe the movie is racist. :(
Last Edit: July 16, 2009, 04:34:30 pm by Psyburn
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what's wrong with you guys. it's a stupid movie about an american anime directed by m. night where instead of having an entire mongoloid cast, they made all the good guys white and the bad guys brown. that's funny. it's racist no shit. but I am looking forward to seeing pictures of a bunch of white people named AANG and KATARA dressed up like buddhist monks and pretending to bend the elements while dancing around on a pagoda

This is what I'm thinking. I mean it's like the people complaining about it being "too racist" have completely forgot the plot of the original show this movie is based on! I don't see how giving any one of those fictional races a specific skin color makes it any more or any less racist than it already has to be for the plot to make any sense whatsoever. (For instance, the only way to make it so that nobody complains or mentions "racism" in the first place would be to put people of varying skin-colors in each and every tribe. Which as we all know, would cause the setting to not make any sense, and thusly turn the plot into absolute shit.)

Hell, I would think white people would have the most offense at the casting. Since the whole time they'll be asking "I don't get it, why are the white people the ones being persecuted in the interests of genocide?" Or maybe the folks behind the movie made that decision on purpose to drive home the message that genocide can affect white people as well (in a fantasy world at least).
Last Edit: July 16, 2009, 05:27:32 pm by EvilDemonCreature
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I agree completely with Earl, my brain sucks at processing things and whatever so I was not able to defeat Vellfare's argument convincingly (and I do think there is something wrong with her for thinking it's not racist), but I still believe the movie is racist. :(

The racist argument falls on the assumption that the current cast were chosen because of their race.  Considering the main bad guy went from being a white dude to a brown one for no reasons other than conflicting schedules with the actors, it actually seems to me that the people in charge don't really give a shit about race!  It's not fair to have all these people saying this little boy with a lot of talent shouldn't be in the movie for not being Asian.  I don't know about the other actors but there's no evidence that they were chosen for being white in place of an equally talented Asian.  No one has this evidence at all!  The only thing anyone has is information that they asked for "Caucasian or other ethnicities", which I agree is pretty stupid, but that doesn't disqualify Asians whatsoever.  There is zero evidence that this casting was done on racist grounds at all, it's all just one big assumption.

Also psyburn has said himself that it sucks that the only asians in film are the ones doing kung-fu shit but this movie IS kung-fu shit too so I still don't see why this is the one to rally behind, if it did have an asian lead it would still be THOSE ASIANS AND THAT TYPE OF FILM THEY DO, it's not advancing anyone in any way that didn't already exist bub

edit: Plus I mean consider the casting process, they did casting calls all throughout the United States, a country where 70-ish percent (I think) of the population is white.  If they picked out the best of the best from each location, there's a really good statistical chance that a lot of them would be white.  Think about how many 12-15 year olds watch this show that would want to be in this movie, you'd have to be retarded to think that the majority is Asian.  There was a good chance from the start that the lead would be white.
Last Edit: July 16, 2009, 05:58:24 pm by Velfarre
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UH OH!

Jackson Rathbone was born in Singapore...
This makes him...ASIAN!!
And Nicola Peltz seems like a pretty Russian name to me, but I can't find any info on her.
Looks like this movies more asian than people think
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Alright then but no where in the cartoon does it say that anyone is suppose to be asian. It's a fantasy world so why can't white people live asian like worlds?
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Don't mock what he said. He perfectly stated exactly why the format of the original show is drawn in the anime style in the first place.

Even the darker skinned people on that show looked white. It's just how that type of stuff is drawn.

I don't know why it comes off looking that way, it just does.
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yeah thats right

All they is is darker shaded white looking people. A drawn out character cannot be of any ethnicity other than white unless it has the corrosponding thick watermelon lips, squinty eyes, or turban on head with detailed mud man complexion
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I think they should have cast homer simpson because he has yellow skin so psyburn would be happy and he's also bald already  so no need to shave hair for the part

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