I'm trying to get into the Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup roguelike! I like it! I've had it installed for ages but it was only when I replayed the tutorial and was told to Press [C] To Cut Orc... You Started Dismembering The Orc... You Dismembered The Orc... +2 Orc Flesh Gained... Eat Orc Flesh Y/N that I started getting really excited about it. Right now I am a Mummy Chaos Knight and I brutally murdered a bunch of Kobolds and an Ooze and sacrificed the bodies to my dark god in exchange for bloodpowers. I have a bunch of scrolls and one of them put a curse on my weapon which is maybe a good thing since it kills everything almost instantly now.
 
Does anyone know if ADOM is worth checking out too btw because I've heard it's kind of crazier which is maybe what I want?? Don't suggest Dwarf Fortress because I'm... I'm not ready yet...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is actually probably one of the least insane, most balanced roguelikes! At least compared to NetHack, where there are literally spells that let you transform boulders into giant piles of meat. Although I suppose there are a few cool things you can do, like Ignite Poison (which is a rare spell that never seems to show up for characters that could conceivably use it). Curing poison by setting your blood on fire is pretty great, I think. Also, if you an Earth Elementalist/Transmuter, you can Petrify creatures and then use Shatter/Lee's Rapid Deconstruction to BLOW THEM UP and shower nearby enemies with shrapnel. Also, Rupert farming!! Actually, I guess there are a lot of cool things to do in Crawl, I just don't really notice it so much because of how brutally technical the game is.

Also fyi, cursing your equipment has no inherent benefit, unless you are worshipping ASHENZARI, THE SHACKLED GOD OF CURSES, who rewards you with the ability to see through walls and auto-identify weapons by looking at them.


As for ADOM, I dunno. I've actually been meaning to try it too, but ASCII roguelikes make my eyes hurt so fuckin much aaaaa. Also the learning curve looks really goddamn steep (like every roguelike in the history of ever) and I don't really think I'm willing to invest that much time into figuring out all the dumb esoteric tricks that are basically 100% required to win (which always seem to exist in roguelikes).

rambling post: yeah dude, Nethack is insane how it treats the player all the way to the end (perhaps play this if you want... ridicilous apathy and hostility to the player) and Adom is just a huge pit of shit where you drop...whoops sorry but basically A BIG MYSTERY. you kick the stairs! you kick the stairs! your legs feel limp... time passes... you kick the stair- THE WHOLE DUNGEON COLLAPSES ON YOU AS DOES THE STAIRS. i mean yeah i bombarded you with these examples before yeah.

Adom is uh kind of enjoyable in a sense that you can really spend a lot of time in that game getting beaten getting killed mysteriously and it's all good because it's a pretty likeable game?? until you figure out the most of the mysteries i guess, then the goal is more straightforward. Nethack is the same but even more goofier (MOOMIN TOURIST i am not kidding you, i was trying to equip a camera but even the buttons/shortcuts were too hard for me back then) and more relentless apparently?? with how the game wants you to kill yourself in every turn. I guess they're both really good games and i guess due to the uh minimal obvious esthetic choices and the reputation/goal of the games they are not as interesting to people than eg chinese bootleg games? i mean i think they are sort of similiar in a sense.
i always enjoyed the sense of uh world in adom anyways. it never felt like a fangame or a piece of humour than an actual, huge game with ridicilous amount of details and it's actually pretty enjoyable to GET SUCKED IN and actually play compared to most games? it feels warm, i am cozy... ALL OF SUDDEN THE DARKNESS =REALLY= EATS YOU!! YOU HAVE BEEN EATEN!! :o  oh well! i mean i guess i ramble (y e s) but id rather get eaten by a grue five thousand times in my life than play 5000 matches of bejewelled or any modern game to that matter.

Speaking of which uh i have played Far Cry 2, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, Zombies vs Plants and Bejewelled Deluxe (almost had a chance to play Bioshock) and i'm sorry (this is directed to catamites and friends) but right now i feel immense hate toward any games right now and if i see a pavlovs dog i think ill-ugh why i bother even swearing and posting. basically please believe me when i say that i really feel passionate hate to games right now. i mean it. i want no fucking games from now on. its thanks to this modern shit. i think i need some months to forget about games again. bad times. dont do it kids.

ps aaaa bejewelled i couldnt keep playing it with music on, my head started to hurt and teeth ache from how 90's the music were. ragnar should check it out...

As for ADOM, I dunno. I've actually been meaning to try it too, but ASCII roguelikes make my eyes hurt so fuckin much aaaaa. Also the learning curve looks really goddamn steep (like every roguelike in the history of ever) and I don't really think I'm willing to invest that much time into figuring out all the dumb esoteric tricks that are basically 100% required to win (which always seem to exist in roguelikes).

motherfucker. you just don't have any soul it seems!! fucking bitches and letter rogualikes, that's the true young man's world fucker!! i think i'd... if i want to make a technical wordl (like acutally bother making a game like that in a uh game sense. ACTUAL GAME) i'd make a letter rogualike... somehow imbue the zelda 64 and chinese bootleg sense of uh world/goofiness/peace. i think it's important. fuck ladies and play rogualikes. maybe in roguelikes you should be able to fuck. them. bitches- idk im just goofposting (and bit aggravated by your apathy to letter roguelikes, you just dont have any soul it seems) but i really liked the mental image of sexy young men living extreme lifestyles partying at nights in rhodes and playing roguelikes intesively in the evenings and talking like it's cool with your bros.

you guys do know that i just like talking right? talking with my pals. i mean who doesn't enjoy socializing even if thru the cables... *rolleyes* yes  i know this doesn't replace irl stuff. i just like fuckin. dem ladies and posting in the internet forum and havin good time with my bros talking about roguelikes. thats my life and i love it. youre only young once.

guana were you countin that your post would change the page/override my post... youre in a dangerous territory mate....

the bonzi post and guana's frog pic are the "yin & yang" of gameschat on this forum it seems... also rami i'd advise against looking at the goldeneye wii remake in the article thread / seeing whatever else dumb shit game developers get up to when they actually have the tools to realise their ridiculous action movie fantasies rather than making crazy vague systematic representations of same... instead review the powerful words of 'beat' takashi and listen to this fine, firm song:
 

Mr Keuner ran into Mr Muddle, a great fighter against newspapers. ‘I am a great opponent of newspapers. I don’t want any newspapers’, said Mr Muddle. Mr Keuner said ‘I am a greater opponent of newspapers. I want better newspapers.’

anyway i'll probably check out ADOM and NetHack!! right now i'm less interested in actually completing roguelikes than i am in dying in ridiculous ways / playing a Berserk Kobold and gaining permanent +6 Affinity To Sludge from drinking murky red potions etc... i finally played the Tales Of Game's Sewer Goblet game last night and even though i liked it what really impressed me was the feeling that "serious" roguelikes were probably if anything even weirder and more ridiculous than a game where the wu tang clan explores a treacherous sewer filled with teknodwarves...

I downloaded nethack a while ago, I figured it's summer now's the time to get into a tedious game but I couldn't figure out how to play it. I couldn't even mash the keyboard and get killed in a zany way because it would always ask me look in what direction? f is not a valid direction. cancel look command? (y/n/q) p is not a valid cancel look command response. I'm going to try dcss instead.

Castle of the Winds is really fun, it's pretty straight-forward and user-friendly in comparison and not very wacky at all, but the graphics are top notch http://www.myabandonware.com/media/captures/C/castle-of-the-winds/castle-of-the-winds_4.gif and it's very solid

Only those who have 'SOUL' can face my 'STAND', 'ROGUELIKES'... You are not ready to see the 'LIGHT' of 'TRUE MAN'S WORLD', Gyro 'earlchip' Zeppeli... Only 'TRUE MEN' can step out the 'PLATO'S CAVE' and 'SURVIVE'...
*a black man with ridicilously beautiful (kajal) eyes, chiselled facial features and women lips. his afro is shaped as skull and there are even holes in the hair for eye sockets. in a ridicilous impossible fashion pose and wearing a similiar jumpsuit to what Prince wears in the music video of Raspberry Berret (except that this suit has nothing at abs so you can see his ridicilous muscular abs. maybe see his groin/navel hair forming prince symbol or '?' from groin to navel...). the chapter's name is Papa's Got A Brand New Bag Pt.1* 

OH HEY self-reminder/catamites: i could buy a t-shirt over here where i can print anything on the front with different styled/coloured letters against black shirt. I was thinking something about 'parallels' and was planning demanding them to pringt BARF! BARF!! BARF! BARF! BARF! BARF! BARF! BARF! BARF! mark rothkoBARF! BARF! BARF! (okay forget the mark rothko joke but yeah). i didn't pull it out yet...
It's time to make the no-wave game happen with this shirt on all the time... the 80's...the parallels are finally forming... unified rebellion? unified DISTORTION is a natural NEXT STEP...

the bonzi post and guana's frog pic are the "yin & yang" of gameschat on this forum it seems... also rami i'd advise against looking at the goldeneye wii remake in the article thread / seeing whatever else dumb shit game developers get up to when they actually have the tools to realise their ridiculous action movie fantasies rather than making crazy vague systematic representations of same... instead review the powerful words of 'beat' takashi and listen to this fine, firm song:
 
anyway i'll probably check out ADOM and NetHack!! right now i'm less interested in actually completing roguelikes than i am in dying in ridiculous ways / playing a Berserk Kobold and gaining permanent +6 Affinity To Sludge from drinking murky red potions etc... i finally played the Tales Of Game's Sewer Goblet game last night and even though i liked it what really impressed me was the feeling that "serious" roguelikes were probably if anything even weirder and more ridiculous than a game where the wu tang clan explores a treacherous sewer filled with teknodwarves...

Yeah i figured i'd want to stay away from the actual realizations of the games like we've spoken. you can always just play adom and nethack like You've Never Meant It ( ??? what i mean exactly with this: we might never get to know...) ergo/aka learn the controls learn basic mechanisms and so forth but yeah im pretty sure youd have to play a pretty long time until the thing becomes too clear. wish there was less grinding parts at times and more ridicilous dangerous situations (YOU WALK ON A LEVER! YOU ARE DROPPED DOWN 20 LEVELS DOWN!!!! (ahhaha i think this is actually real from nethack. marge told me something similiar to this...) YOU SEE A GREATER MOLOCH, DORN'S BEAST AND A GIBBERLING MOUTHER!!! YOU FEEL AS YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG... THE ROOM SMELLS LIKE CARROTS!! ALL OF SUDDEN A BLINK DOG APPEARS! BLINK DOG APPEARS [gentle]! BLINK DOG SUDENDLY DISAPEARS! YOU HEAR A SILENT CROAK *iceberg* IN YOUR HEAD! (yeah this is real, adom) SUDENDLY MOLOCH BECOMES FRIENDLY! MOLOCH CASTS [unidentified ][/unidentified]! YOUR HEAR A GROAN IN THE DISTANCE AS YOUR ALIGNMENT SHIFTS! we can go on with this forever but yeah sometimes goofy stuff can happen before ya know AND the same time. i still remember fondly how i was walking through a room i had walked dozens times and all of sudden quickling king appears and attacks... and all of sudden the whole fucking was filled with quicklings and quickling kings and i stare the room astonished & mouth open, not believing how i died so easily & so randomly that time. a single fond teardrop appears at rami's eyecorner...

I finished Flashback last night. Quality game.

im immediately vary if this is some kind of indie game but if we are talking about the another world-style platform-action game made by delphine software? or whatever then yeah. It owns a lot. its not as artsy as the eric chaci's game but i am kind of fond of all the esthetics of the game? and the level of animation and the unique, vector 3d animation at cutscenes. the music helllllll yeah. i mean i watched my big brother/uncle played this along with Syndicate and these games were Scifi with big S for me as a kid and pretty impactful/strong experiences as esthetics go? the level of grit(ty futurism)...
I guess music and graphics really did both of the games and both are pretty minimal about these aspects. shut up even i am fond of some games with clear game mechanisms as long as a i feel like im sucked into another world completely. and flashback was good that after a shocking intro (YOU ARE ALONE-EVERYONE WANTS YOU DEAD-YOU TRY TO ESCAPE THE GUNFIRE-YOU ALMOST DIED RUNNING AWAY) you are thrown into a bizarre, livid/lucid hostile scifi jungle (YOU WAKE UP AT VAST, HOSTILE JUNGLE-YOU DON'T EVEN REMEMBER ANYTHING) with little means to kill everybody and the level of suspense was immense. and everything moves like a smooth, fast version of Prince of Persia (the old dos one). you aren't even sure if you are meant to interract with the world with any other than kill or run and you aren't sure if you ever find out if you get out of the jungle or what you are meant to do. it's the confusion and constant survival/suspension of everything and another world is pretty similiar with the atmosphere (the friggin/famous starting location).

it wouldn't be far from thruth if somebody said that games are dreams and games where you try to survive/strive are nightmares...

that new dungeon siege game which I had to buy because blockbuster didn't have enough copies to rent.

its already better than final fantasy 13

dcss is pretty fun. my favorite character so far was an orc priestess who would convert tons of orcs and they'd follow her around with hearts above their heads. I'm playing a mummy now and I got a ring of fire protection early on, so since I don't have to eat I just walk around throwing ice sickles at everything, then spend a mortal eternity resting and building up my magic points.

getting old world blues next probably

that new dungeon siege game which I had to buy because blockbuster didn't have enough copies to rent.

its already better than final fantasy 13

I should not have bought this game because I beat it in two days. Its still better than ff13 though.



What is DCSS?

dungeon crawl stone soup