Bought a new PC, one tiny problem [SOLVED]

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Aten

#1 August 10, 2009, 06:49:14 am

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So I bought a new PC today, everything is cool, the PC has an onboard graphics card (it has an asus motherboard) and the memory is 256mb. Now, my old pc had a nVidia gfx card with 64mb memory (it was an AGP card), but it had the output connections for AV, (which I used to connect to my TV and watch movies and stuff) which the new pc's onboard card doesn't have.

It's pretty important to me to have the TV connection, is there anyway I can use BOTH graphics cards? I just need the nVidia one to be connected to my TV while i use the onboard one for everything else, like gaming etc.

I can give proper specs when I get home.

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using Windows XP pro Sp2

Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 04:09:05 am by Aten

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Frisky SKeleton

#2 August 10, 2009, 07:07:03 am

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usually when you put in an AGP card the onboard graphics are disabled, but surely there's a way around this. give us all the specs though, even though the ram of the card is lower it could be a better chip

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#3 August 10, 2009, 08:36:34 am

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Quote from: climbtree on August 10, 2009, 07:07:03 am

usually when you put in an AGP card the onboard graphics are disabled

oh man! That's what I was fearing. I don't know how much this will help, but this are the specs for the onboard card:

and the other is a "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"

Last Edit: August 10, 2009, 01:26:30 pm by Aten

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Verne

#4 August 10, 2009, 08:50:16 am

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Well your best bet would be buying an external video card (who uses integrated on a desktop on this day and age?). You can get a basic one with the the needed ports for like $50 if you're looking at new ones or less if you can find an older one.

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Aten

#5 August 10, 2009, 12:27:41 pm

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Thats all well and good, until you realize that where I live, 256mb is godsend, because the actual cards they sell are like....2 years old. As in stuff that USED to be cool 2 years ago is NOW being sold here, the only way to purchase top notch stuff is via online, but you gotta have a credit card for that.

Besides, buying a new card defeats the purpose. That the pc already has 256mb, and I go and buy ANOTHER 256 memory card just to see stuff on my tv is just silly. C'mon guys, isn't there any solution?

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Vellfire

#6 August 10, 2009, 12:59:22 pm

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Quote from: Aten on August 10, 2009, 12:27:41 pm

Thats all well and good, until you realize that where I live, 256mb is godsend, because the actual cards they sell are like....2 years old. As in stuff that USED to be cool 2 years ago is NOW being sold here, the only way to purchase top notch stuff is via online, but you gotta have a credit card for that.

I know this doesn't help your immediate situation, but in the future get one of those visa gift cards. You can use those online, and they sell them at like gas stations and stuff so you should be able to find one in any area.

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#7 August 10, 2009, 01:35:06 pm

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Your card doesn't have Svideo out?

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Mince Wobley

#8 August 10, 2009, 05:45:43 pm

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I'm googling but it seems everyone says it's impossible to use an AGP and an onboard card at the same time

What if you plugged in the agp card, then disabled it in windows device manager and maybe windows would start using the onboard instead, and you re-enable it when you want to use the agp?

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Frisky SKeleton

#9 August 10, 2009, 10:02:23 pm

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it needs to be done at the bios level i think, but honestly how often do you use TV out? it'd probably be easier to invest in some thumb screws and pop the card in when you need it

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Aten

#10 August 10, 2009, 10:51:26 pm

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A lot, as in people are over at my place almost everyday to watch shit/play games and we use the TV out (connected to my 29" flatscreen). Guess I have no choice

2 things I can do at this point are:

1)Install the AGP card, pop it out when I need to use the hi-end pc one

2)Buy a cheapo card that has at least TV out and can be installed WITH the onboard card

So if I had a PCI card, for instance, could I run both the onboard and the PCI at the same time? Connect the pci to the TV and use the onboard for game stuff?

Last Edit: August 10, 2009, 10:53:34 pm by Aten

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Frisky SKeleton

#11 August 10, 2009, 11:08:35 pm

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find out your motherboard model and we can give you more help, i know from experience trying to find a pci card with video out is fairly difficult

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#12 August 10, 2009, 11:18:41 pm

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Quote from: climbtree on August 10, 2009, 10:02:23 pm

it needs to be done at the bios level i think, but honestly how often do you use TV out? it'd probably be easier to invest in some thumb screws and pop the card in when you need it

I have an usb audio interface and if I disable it in the device manager windows starts using the onboard soundcard instead so I guess it'd do the same thing with the videocard

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Frisky SKeleton

#13 August 11, 2009, 12:32:11 am

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it's different because of the way AGP draws power iirc

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#14 August 11, 2009, 12:38:32 am

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I'm not quite sure what you're problem is but maybe you could get one of those VGA(or whatever you use) to AV boxes?

If an image says a thousand words, and a video shows 24 images each second, then why couldn't they condense everything I needed to learn at school into one hour long video :V

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Aten

#15 August 11, 2009, 12:55:49 am

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Quote from: K-hos on August 11, 2009, 12:38:32 am

I'm not quite sure what you're problem is but maybe you could get one of those VGA(or whatever you use) to AV boxes?

This sounds interesting. I might have to hit some shops to see if they have something like this.

On another note, sorry guys, after all this, call me stupid, but I NOW find that this PC doesn't even HAVE an AGP slot, it has a PCI Express slot instead, so even if there was a way, my old AGP card wouldn't even fit in it

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#16 August 11, 2009, 04:23:47 am

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my tv has a VGA port, does yours?

if it does just get that cable.....................

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#17 August 11, 2009, 04:52:46 am

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Quote from: Aten on August 11, 2009, 12:55:49 am

This sounds interesting. I might have to hit some shops to see if they have something like this.

On another note, sorry guys, after all this, call me stupid, but I NOW find that this PC doesn't even HAVE an AGP slot, it has a PCI Express slot instead, so even if there was a way, my old AGP card wouldn't even fit in it

Can't you get a PCI-Express card then? Those are much better anyway... and much cheaper than an archaic AGP card.

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#18 August 11, 2009, 11:41:43 am

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Quote from: K-hos on August 11, 2009, 12:38:32 am

I'm not quite sure what you're problem is but maybe you could get one of those VGA(or whatever you use) to AV boxes?

These are probably more expensive than a new video card. It's been a long time since I've looked at them though, but last time I looked into getting one they were hella expensive.

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#19 August 11, 2009, 08:12:50 pm

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Built in intel video chipsets are shit. Put the nvidia card in and forget you had onboard, it's likely faster. More memory doesn't always mean faster video. There are 1gb CAD graphics cards out there that wont outperform older 128mb cards in video games.

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Mince Wobley

#20 August 11, 2009, 08:21:22 pm

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If he force the geforce in it will destroy the computer

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Speaking of onboard cards, do they make motherboards with laptop videocards like the geforce (number)m ones?

Last Edit: August 11, 2009, 08:24:11 pm by Mince Wobley

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