Topic: FFVII remake...no time soon (Read 3679 times)

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i've just realized that nobody ever asks for remakes of books

like, nobody asks for a remake of hamlet so that it's in modern english. actually idk they do try to make hamlet movies in different bizarro settings

but that's different. yes, nobody wants to see books be remade. that was my original point
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Yeah well book technology isn't really improving all the time
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i've just realized that nobody ever asks for remakes of books

like, nobody asks for a remake of hamlet so that it's in modern english. actually idk they do try to make hamlet movies in different bizarro settings

but that's different. yes, nobody wants to see books be remade. that was my original point
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Yeah well book technology isn't really improving all the time


Had to LOL hard at this. You are very right things in the "print" industry aren't exactly making waves with visionary new breakthroughs...  :)

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what about popup books, bitch
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duke nukem 3d is unplayable but would be a decent game if the controls and graphics were updated. by the same measure though if you want a story read a book. video game stories suck, people like the character because they create the character.

sure but in terms of jrpgs there's been almost 0 advancement to the genre beyond graphics. the core gameplay is pretty much exactly the same in every single rpg so it would literally just be a graphics update and an inevitable fucking terrible and boring 100 floor dungeon (every square 'remake' seems to contain these, and they all suck)

the original looks dated but other than that it plays alright still.


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also create the character? i don't understand what you mean here. there's no choices or customisations in the game so maybe i am missing something
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I wish they would have just patched a better translation on the PSN release, actually.  The game looks pretty primitive now, sure, but the shoddy translation was always what bugged me the most because I actually found the plot pretty intriguing.  Just the way a lot of it was worded made things confusing occasionally.
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sure but in terms of jrpgs there's been almost 0 advancement to the genre beyond graphics. the core gameplay is pretty much exactly the same in every single rpg so it would literally just be a graphics update and an inevitable fucking terrible and boring 100 floor dungeon (every square 'remake' seems to contain these, and they all suck)

the original looks dated but other than that it plays alright still.


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also create the character? i don't understand what you mean here. there's no choices or customisations in the game so maybe i am missing something
what if they give it ffxii style battles........

also ffxiii is a basic jrpg, right? does that really play the same ffvii did? note i havent played or even really looked at ffxiii
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Heh, Final Fantasy 7? I hate it. Won't see me dressed up as Cloud at the next anime convention I go to.

Oh yeah, and Tifa's not even hot.
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On a more serious note, I also thought 7 was pretty shit.  It's funny how people say Cloud is the most boring hero, but look at Sephiroth.  I'M ANGRY FOR THE SAKE OF BEING ANGRY ARRRRRGHHHH.  And now look at how the internet idolizes shitty characters.
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Exactly what Jester said, but even ignoring this why would it matter at all if the game was remade? If you want to play FF7 then play FF7.

Also Cloud must be the most boring protagonist ever. He has no memory, blindly follows others around, doesn't talk and has no emotions whatsoever. Why do so many people love him as a character?

Because when FF7 came out he was considered to be new and interesting. For better or worse, Cloud set the template for characters of that type.

When I had FF7, I absolutely loved it. Not to sound like a fanboy, but I don't think it's fair to judge the game using today's standards, as a hell of lot has changed since 1997.  No, it hasn't aged the best, but in my humble opinion, not many RPGs were on the level FF7 was when it debuted. It didn't sell 10 million copies for nothing.

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Cloud was just Shadow recast as the main character.  :colb:
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Because when FF7 came out he was considered to be new and interesting. For better or worse, Cloud set the template for characters of that type.

When I had FF7, I absolutely loved it. Not to sound like a fanboy, but I don't think it's fair to judge the game using today's standards, as a hell of lot has changed since 1997.  No, it hasn't aged the best, but in my humble opinion, not many RPGs were on the level FF7 was when it debuted. It didn't sell 10 million copies for nothing.

That argument falls apart when you realize that today's standards haven't really even changed. I am perfectly fine with judging a particular game from 1997 by today's standards. But I would only do it with this specific game though, because that game is the primary reason our "standards" haven't changed in over 10 years. You don't even need proof to know this is true, because who here can honestly argue that if they actually did re-make FF7 today it wouldn't sell even more than 10 million copies in pre-release purchases alone?

You can't deny that people like this shit. All the more reason more people should be viewing with a critical eye what so many pass off as simply "something they enjoy playing". They may not need a reason to think that, but that doesn't stop me from viewing it as a sickeningly curious phenomena that simply begs for an explanation beyond "Everything about this game is shitty, which must be why some people still like it more than anything else."
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That argument falls apart when you realize that today's standards haven't really even changed.

I agree, standards haven't changed, but quality of games definitely have.  I cannot thing of a post-FFX RPG that I have legitimately enjoyed.
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I want to marry Cloud, Tidus, Zidane and Vaan and have them as my wives.
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You've got quite a torso today, jamie.
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Enough torso for many wives.
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i've just realized that nobody ever asks for remakes of books

like, nobody asks for a remake of hamlet so that it's in modern english. actually idk they do try to make hamlet movies in different bizarro settings

but that's different. yes, nobody wants to see books be remade. that was my original point


loll

also they do this all the time it's just not big right now

and some movies are essentially Hamlet right? they just don't come out and say it, and do it with completely different names and settings



isn't there some reworded version of the bible for stupid people like 'satan was a bad man who wanted to create a bad world full of evil'
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Are you trying to say that movie was not good cuz I would have to say you're wrong.
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I want to marry Cloud, Tidus, Zidane and Vaan and have them as my wives.
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on another note, oh well. and your right standards haven't changed much, but that's becuase they keep spewing out the same shit over and over, worse still is that people BUY it (i'm one of theese people... no wait i haven't bought an Jrpg in... a long time).

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I do not get it Swordfish, why are you posting pictures of men from Final Fantasy?