streets of rage also references a lot of random dance music like PUMP UP THE JAM shite



lol forced comparison. In all seriousness SoR3's soundtrack is really weird I think it must've been inspired by random underground techno there's definitely one or two tracks that are supposed to be acid house (imagines mild-mannered Japanese man programming Genesis music while tripping balls off on E) and supposedly the soundtrack makes some degree of sense if you play it on good speakers with lots of bass





supposedly this movie was entirely the inspiration for Final Fight


http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/ripofffolder/ripoffpage4.html (lots of interesting info on this page although some of the comparisons are really weak and they should stop trying so hard)

and Andore is Andre the Giant lol


* Megaman has all these names for characters taken straight from 80's hair rock right (because they had just got it over there at the time or something and still thought it was so rad I dunno)

* and Hideo Kojima with everything he's ever done, Resident Evil with bunch of b-movies up until RE4 where it was that Spanish movie and Black Hawk Down for RE5

* Probably lots of good Final Fantasy comparisons to make but somebody probably knows more about this than I do. Pop culture ones are more entertaining anyway

* Earthbound with Beatles Charlie Brown lots of other random shit Happy Happy cult is either Jonestown or the KKK I want to believe the latter because then maybe Carpainter is Colonel Sanders

* SNK made a bunch of characters that are either ripping off characters from american martial arts movies or I hear a whole bunch are blatant ripoffs of Capcom characters like RYO just to bust Capcom's balls

* oh yeah Silent Hill and this shit. Some David Lynch references in that game too right? And the music rips off Portishead maybe




if there is a better comparison please post it because I don't know the Silent Hill music very well!

* also lol Double Dragon ripped off a Phil Collins track possibly others


not necessarily knocking japanese game developers but I think this is something 'retro' games should remember to do. Like to do it right I demand somebody has a thinly disguised Kanye West ripoff in their game all 16-bit and stuff (is he still popular I don't know leave me alone) *thinks of other popular stuff* have aliens in your game that blatantly look like Avatar but act ignorant about the whole thing/say it's based off Oni or a Kappa or something

Please post anything you think should belong in this topic!! Bonus points if it's either really obscure like They Live was kind of a cult movie right but either some japanese game devs are huge movie buffs or Roddy Piper is some kind of god in Japan and they thought all Americans would get the reference - or the opposite, something blatantly obvious but everyone was just like... no it can't be that simple (like Andore) or something the average person would recognize but not the weeaboo gamers who play said game

Edit: might've said it but not necessarily intending to put down Japan like lol has to steal their culture from everywhere else make up your own damn ideographic symbols I'm pretty sure Streets of Fire wasn't HUGE BOX OFFICE SUCCESS basically some film that faded into obscurity so in that case it's kind of turning shit into gold. Maybe that's why I was so fascinated with those Ghanese posters it's like all stupid Steven Seagal-type movies but the way they interpret it it becomes this epic mindfuck and way too interesting for the subject matter

Edit: I dunno about this but interestins

You're absolutely right, by the way I think Capcom designers were big fans of Walter Hill movies! Check his first movie, "Hard Times": at 20:00 min you can clearly see the harbour stage from Street Fighter 2. You can see where they took the ideas for that SF2 stage, like the big chains in the foreground, the boat (almost IDENTICAL) and the crowd cheering in the background. At 46:00 there's also a place that's almost like Zangief stage.

"Hard Times" UK title was "Street Fighter"... another coincidence? I don't think so. ;)

basically Capcom has never had an original idea. Maybe Ghouls and Ghosts but yeah didn't they also have a spinoff survival horror game that was blatant ripoff of The Thing (this would be a good example of weeaboo audience not realizing obvious Hollywood influence)

Edit: everyone knows this one right


somebody should make an indie game where the soundtrack is some idiosyncratic approximation of reggaeton music using a Casio keyboard/fruityloops etc. then pretend to be from Japan and be heralded as a genius

shrek 3 the game for the wii .

yeah, the music in the streets of rage games is really good. i think streets of rage 2 is the best soundtrack yuzo koshiro ever did.

here are a few examples of western classical music in games.


(this is atrocious)




there are about a million more and that's cool i guess because a lot of classical music is public domain and it's not like it's stealing or anything, nobody is presenting it as their own. usually they do something interesting or new with the songs, except in the case of that polovtsian dance arrangement which was awful. but then there's outright theft of music, which is hilarious.





actually i guess king of fighters is kind of the king of music plagiarism.



guilty gear is a great example because the whole game is basically a tribute to 80s hair metal music. a lot of the moves and characters are named after specific songs or bands. the only example i can think of off the top of my head, because i don't actually know that much about guilty gear, is chip z'nuff, who is named after enough z'nuff, but i know the whole game is filled with stuff like that.



so yeah basically plagiarism of music is endemic in the video game industry but i don't think a lot of it is done maliciously or anything. i think it's largely because 1. people who make music for video games are mostly second rate composers 2. they have to make huge amounts of music in a very short time and sometimes it's easier to modify existing music and 3. because it's the music that inspires them. in the case of that metal gear solid thing i think it was absolutely the intent to steal a song and pass it off as his own.

also there's deadly premonition which just came out that is twin peaks: the game.

i don't think it's really a question of if the west is an influence on eastern games, but how much the west influences these games.

yeah  public domain and all, even videogame ever has moonlight sonata doesn't startropics have it as a prominent puzzle in the game too? and durr Resident Evil. But supposedly a lot of Streets of Rage music is note for note a cheap genesis version of SOUL 2 SOUL or one of those random dance music groups. Also a lot of the SaGa music is prog rock I think?? Not ripping off anyone artist though I think, it's only really good when it's blatant plagarism of a specific piece of music. And the Bach thing is embarassing because the Dragon Quest composer is a serious composer, probably for jap movies we've never heard of

Every Kojima game ever made.

Though lately he's mostly been borrowing from himself.

woah woah woah

what's up with these tiny tiny youtube embeds????

I posted this before but it's worth posting again

http://www.zshare.net/audio/746486128083a937/



this is more of a stretch but



Edit: Btw Game Boy Camera was composed by the same guy who did Earthbound's music. There's even a track from Mother 1 in there

Yeah, jumping on the Kojima train--Snatcher, a game that's been remade a bunch of times but first came out in 1988 (I believe), very heavily borrows off of Blade Runner.  Almost to the point where it's the same thing.  The setting, premise, characters, literally everything is a direct copy.

Dooley the Dinosaur smelled like teen spirit.




The earlier post about Kojima games sums it up. Snatcher was Blade Runner with a tilt, Policenauts had a liberal dose of Lethal Weapon to it, and Solid Snake himself seems like he was originally patterned after Kyle Reese (the look, the pose on the cover, the weapon, the hip gear) from the Terminator. In Metal Gear 2, Big Boss seemed patterned after Sean Connery, and Snake had taken on a little bit of a Mel Gibson aesthetic.

idk if anyone's mentioned it but an obvious one is the biggs / wedge / piett stuff in square games

btw chef you broke GW