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Paul3K

#1 August 08, 2010, 08:25:42 am

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Okay, the left one is the actual file. Right one is what RPG Maker 2K3 makes it look like. I've tried lots of stuff like blurring it and sharpening it but still no avail. I am using Photoshop and have tried all sorts.
I've come to the conclusion that it's just not possible to make it as clear as it actually is. So I'm posting on here to see if any of you guys could possibly know a solution or fix. Thanks guys.

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EvilDemonCreature

#2 August 08, 2010, 04:04:01 pm

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I think it is reducing the number of colors used when it imports the image, so anything you do to edit that image that results with shades in-between the ones present on the RPGMaker version will just get reduced again when the image actually put into RPGMaker.

If you can make the gradient look smoother using the exact same number of colors as the example on the right, then I'm pretty sure RPGMaker will have to interpret the image the same way as you see it without changing anything.

Have you tried dithering? (If you are looking for the quick fix, then don't even bother googling the term though. It is going to be a laborious manual process no matter which program you use, although I'd recommend MSPaint over Photoshop for it's ease of use in situations with limited color images.)

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Taylor Kaz

#3 August 08, 2010, 05:15:11 pm

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In Paint Shop Pro, there is a decrease color depth option for 256 colors. select optimized ocree to start, but there are 3 options when you decrease the color depth so that it will fade well.

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hero_bash

#4 August 08, 2010, 07:31:33 pm

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in irfanview you can also convert to 256 just check flloyd-steinberg dithering to minimize apparent loss

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Mateui

#5 August 08, 2010, 08:23:04 pm

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Here's how the image turned out when I saved it in photoshop:

Just use "Save for Web/Devices" and set the image as a PNG-8 with 256 colors so that it will be compatible in Rm2k3. When I saved it this way it's using less than 256 colors anyway.

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Vanit

#6 August 09, 2010, 02:44:43 am

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Oh sweet! I didn't realise there was a way to get around that.

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Paul3K

#7 August 09, 2010, 05:35:12 am

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Mateui, I did what you said, but when I view it in RPG Maker, you can still see the bands pretty bad.

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hero_bash

#8 August 09, 2010, 12:05:56 pm

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hmm

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#9 August 09, 2010, 03:18:07 pm

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so uh maybe rk2k stretches the gradient. maybe it's impossible to make it smooth!

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Corfaisus

#10 August 09, 2010, 03:24:58 pm

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EDIT: Nevermind, my idea wouldn't have worked. Looks like your only option is to move up to XP or VX.

Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 03:33:10 pm by Corfaisus

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tuxedo marx

#11 August 09, 2010, 05:42:18 pm

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alternatively you could make do with it looking like 2D video game graphics rather than a photoshop mockup

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Paul3K

#12 August 09, 2010, 07:24:24 pm

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This is the best i've got it to look. Guess this is the best 2k3 can do. I like your thinking geodude ^^

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Terrorantula

#13 August 09, 2010, 10:20:22 pm

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I'll try reducing the colors in Irfanview. Also are you using it in a system? If so, remember that there are two different ways to use a pattern in a window: stretch and tile. The different treatments usually have different results.
OK, two ways of processing it...

"Decrease color depth " + Floyd-steinberg:

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"Save for web" using RIOT plugin:

Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 10:30:13 pm by Terrorantula

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Paul3K

#14 August 09, 2010, 11:29:39 pm

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Ok Terrorantula, I did exactly what you said and it has given the best outcome as of yet. But, it's still not the desired outcome I had hoped for. It gives like a "noise" effect to it, which is noticeable and kinda ugly

but it's the best I've had it so far. Do you think there is any other way to do this? If not, then I'm just gonna naff it off as I am spending too much time on it.
Oh and also, it's not for a system set, it's just being used as a picture.

Save the image and zoom in to take a look yourself.

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tuxedo marx

#15 August 10, 2010, 01:04:07 am

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that's just dithering. it looks fine

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hero_bash

#16 August 10, 2010, 02:05:50 am

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and noone would really care

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#17 August 10, 2010, 02:12:52 am

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I really wouldn't have cared if you had used the first one you had a problem with.

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Paul3K

#18 August 10, 2010, 02:39:09 am

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Fair enough. Thanks guys

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General Robert E. Lee

#19 August 10, 2010, 03:25:17 am

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Ugh god that looks terrible
I'd never play a game that had crap like that in it
Seriously

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Terrorantula

#20 August 10, 2010, 04:46:25 am

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*Pokes Lee with a bayonet* This is why I would've defected to the Union...

If you're using the blue for water, mist, or void, why not use a panorama instead? I could even whip something special up for you...

Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 05:11:06 am by Terrorantula

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